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rightleft22
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What Clichés bug you?

My top three

“Everything happens for a reason.”
“There’s a purpose for everything”
“When one door closes another door opens”

When people say these things to me I try to accept them in the spirit their intended -that the statements aren’t just meant to comfort me but to reassure themselves that life makes sense and so I smile

In my most negative state the clichés really bug me

- Personally I believe in cause and effect so the first statement means little to me.

The second statement means to me that some greater something is messing with me, all for the greater whatever, and that I should just get over it.

And the third about doors… are there doors or is it necessity that we walk through... Are trap doors included in the doors that might open?

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"Every cloud has a silver lining."

That one bug you to? Obviously, the phrases are meant to put a positive spin on something negative...I guess it's just easier to say a coined phrase.

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I can't watch certain news programs anymore because the host will say the same tired cliches, or just worn out phrases.

"Under the cover of darkness..."

"Behind closed doors"

"Let not your heart be troubled"

"Your a great American my friend"

"left wing radicals"

"neo-conservatism"


Tired, tired, TIRED! ( in my best Chris Rock voice. )

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rightleft22
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"Every cloud has a silver lining."
I'd put that on my list.
I wonder where that saying originated - do people see "linings" in clouds.

I agree its just easier, I don't think people really spend much time thinking about what they say.

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You've never seen a silver lined cloud?
It's quite nice to see....
The cliche points out that even a rain cloud, which is seen as dark, dreary, has some positive aspect to it. That, and the cliches you mentioned, are used in an uplifting way.

-"I just found out that I can't get that house I wanted...."
-"Everything happens for a reason...." meaning, maybe you weren't meant to have that house, and now something better might come along.

They help you stay out of the rut of pessimism.

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Every silver lining has its dark cloud
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kenmeer livermaile
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"I wonder where that saying originated - do people see "linings" in clouds."

A dark cloud backlit by sun typically has a brilliantly shining silver grey edge.

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kenmeer livermaile
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"Everything happens for a reason...."

Well, everything does, but that is of course a matter of retrospective cause and effect.

The corny expression is designed to make us look not at how our hoped for outcomes have been botched but at what opportunities the botching might create.

It's an optimistic way of saying 'get over it and get on with it'.

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I don't agree with that. It's not "get over it" its "instead of focusing on the bad, look at the good". I believe thats a stark difference.
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Greg, Greg... It's "Every silver lining's got a touch of gray." [Smile]
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News reports that start with "In a shocking..." or "In a startling...". They're so overused that they've become meaningless, and if a breaking story is shocking or startling then it should be able to stand on its own two feet.

I'll let "in breaking news..." slide though. It may be a cliched phrase, but at least it's still only used when it means something.

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I despise the use of the word "human" as an adjective, as in "this novel presents a very human story of blah diddy blah..." or "his demeanor was very natural and human."

Human as opposed to what? Porcine? Be more specific.

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quote:
Originally posted by KidB:
I despise the use of the word "human" as an adjective, as in "this novel presents a very human story of blah diddy blah..." or "his demeanor was very natural and human."

Human as opposed to what? Porcine? Be more specific.

I think the idea there is to try and describe something as "personal", "touching", or "poignant" while sounding suitably aloof and academic. That's actually pretty mild by the standards of fluffy Humanities jargon.
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"Life isn't fair" - Always repeated eagerly by those who work tirelessly to prove that it's true.
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-"Everything happens for a reason...." meaning, maybe you weren't meant to have that house, and now something better might come along.

“Meant to have” is a huge assumption as it presumes a ‘master plan’ kind of thinking or belief and contains a hint of destiny, fate, luck… the gods.

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“Whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger” whenever I hear that I want to tell the person to F off.
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Rallan
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"It just wasn't meant to be."

Well gee, thanks for not telling me before I made an ass of myself [Smile]

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Although I'm fortunate to be done with those days, my personal favorite is the scourge of dating/matchmaking websites that somehow ends up somewhere in the opening paragraph of every banal woman's self-description: "I like to have fun".

For years, I eagerly awaited someone who likes "having fun"! Gosh, a whole lot of people out there seem to hate having fun, so it really helps you stand out, right? Especially since my idea of having fun would be to operate a pneumatic drill right between your eyes after I read that, because you won't be needing your brain any longer.

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I'm noticing that most of the cliches listed here fall into the general category of "things people say to you when something bad has just happened to you." Perhaps this category of cliches is worse than the rest, or maybe we're all more likely to be annoyed at the phrases when we're in the situation that someone might be saying "every dark cloud has a silver lining."

Personally, I am annoyed by:

Any reference to giving 110%
"The best defense is a good offense"

There are probably loads more, but they won't come to mind until I'm around someone who says them too much. I think that watching less TV (particularly listening to sports announcers) has freed me from many annoying cliches.

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"at this time"

It's used to lend more gravitas to a brush off. "We have decided that we can't give you the information at this time." - as if deliberation took place on what time would be better.

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"think outside of the box" which is now endlessly bandied about by people incapable thinking outside the box.

You guys mentioned a bunch I hate too.
quote:
“Whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger” whenever I hear that I want to tell the person to F off.
That's attributed to Nietzche a man who spent the las half of his life both unkilled but not made stronger by mental illness.

"God helps those that help themselves" Gee what a great God. (Had a long argument once in Sunday school about whether that phrase was in the Bible. It's not, although I'm guess most of you guys know it's Franklin.)

"There's one perfect person out there for everyone" 1 person, just 1? Amongst billions of people? Screw that.

"The Terrorists" like they all belong to one orginization with the same goals and strategies.

"Ordinary everyday people",

"patriotic Americans"(which would be almost all of them)

"respect for the office of______,"

" serious questions about______" (how the media and politicians spread rumors, I'm looking at you Dobbs

"This is a Christian nation" and other reference to America's Christian heritage. Even the Christian colonies were founded by Christians fleeing other sects of Christians back in Europe.

"brainstorming"

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"great sense of humour"

So does that mean that they laugh at the same things I do, or does it mean I'm going to have to kill them with an icepick because they thought Full House was the greatest sitcom ever?

Oh and two cliches that I have to give the thumbs up to because of Viking's "the terrorists" reminder.

"If X then the terrorists have won"

and

"Why do you hate America?"

They've gone from earnest jingoism to earnest mockery of jingoism to empty mockery of any sense of belonging at all. They've been elevated to the point where using them in any context at all is equivalent to calling the other guy a vapid moron, so I can only applaud them.

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Probably the one that gets me steamed the most is "there's no smoke without fire"; not only is it untrue, the assumption that all rumors and allegations must have some truth to them is deeply repellent to me. Sometimes rumors are just flat-out wrong.
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quote:
Originally posted by Rallan:
"great sense of humour"

So does that mean that they laugh at the same things I do, or does it mean I'm going to have to kill them with an icepick because they thought Full House was the greatest sitcom ever?

The sweetest mullet of all time, a guy who does Popeye impressions, and the Danny-Jesse-Becky love triangle that imbued every smooch with the potential for murderous rage, and you dare malign the greatness of Full House?
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Jump the shark.

Someone had to do it. [Big Grin]

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"No pain, no gain"

I prefer my motto of "No pain, no pain."

KE

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"Don't worry be happy"

any conversation containing the words "the secret"

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"Ï don't care how a guy looks, intelligence and a sense of humor are more important"

[ July 30, 2009, 05:58 AM: Message edited by: Viking_Longship ]

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"Size doesn’t matter"
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aka the heisenberg Indeterminacy principle? [Wink]
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