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Locus
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http://reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=technologynews&StoryID=1655692

True virtual sex IS coming ...is it still sex?

Is it sex if you have it with a remote person ..but not a machine? Does it matter if the machine is programed with data taken from a real person or a pure simulation?

Would having sex with a person remotely be considered adultry ..but not with a machine?

Fresh meat!!


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If there's not a real-live person on the other end, it's the same as sex with a blow-up doll. Not adultery, just an extravagant form of masturbation. This is the case even if the data was recorded from a real person, as long as this person recorded the data for mass distribution.

If there *is* a live person on the other end (or if a live person recorded the data specifically for your use), then it's the same as regular old sex.

Except for a few things. No fear of unwanted pregnancy. No fear of disease. No fear of a "Fatal Attraction" moment. Less expectation of commitment. So I can imagine many people who normally tend toward monogamous sex becoming wildly promiscuous online.


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And I thought I had problems... don't you people have useful things to argue about...???
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Useful problems..?

...wait until you get into a lawsuit with a future spouse trying to prove that when they were engaging in sex with a virtual partner it constituted breaking your vows. (these types of cases have already occured with current "cybersex")

Or...when you have a teenage kid in 20 years they're having a little bit of "fun" at the arcade...

Change is accelerating...on another thread I spoke of humanity going through an evolutionary cycle in the next 200 years that will completely redefine what it is to "be human"

This development is the next step on that path. It's literally more important than the first telephone call.


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Is it really so strange that on a forum sponsored by a writer of speculative fiction that people might do a little speculating?
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Many say cyber sex is adultry. Its only electronic though. Strip clubs don't allow you to touch (depends of the def of touch I suppose) the women. Heck if you want to get right down to it, if your wearing a condom technically your not even touching her (or he you). Slippry KY jelly slope?

[This message has been edited by Baldar (edited October 31, 2002).]


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it may not be adultery.
But I think that anything that you do, that you would quickly and immediately stop if your spouse came in, is probably a problem.
one of those things that should be sanctioned but not necessarily illegal.

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(start black humor)

So maybe I'm a little twisted but I couldn't help but wonder if you're going to see VRSTD's.

The computer virus that you get to take to bed with you.

(end black humor)


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I suspect it'd take the form of getting hot and heavy ..then opening your eyes to see an advanced stage leper looking back at you.

Examples of a human "computer virus" already exist There are all manners of idealologies that self perpetuate and appear to have detrimental effects on a person's ability to accurately process information.


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(content deleted as it was duplication caused by something blowing up in the posting proccess)

[This message has been edited by Locus (edited November 03, 2002).]


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