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RickyB
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Do y'all get college credits for your life experience accumulated in service?
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Adam Masterman
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Doubtful, but I don't know for sure. I'm not a serviceman, just related to one, but my general impression is that we, as a country, talk a good game about supporting our volunteer army, and a poor job of following through.
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RickyB,

depends on the speciality and with the specific college.

Adam - don't see how one has to do with the other.

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I don't mean if you specialize in something technical at a difficulty level equivalent to actual college credits. Just for being an infantry grunt.
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Adam Masterman
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quote:
Originally posted by LetterRip:
RickyB,

depends on the speciality and with the specific college.

Adam - don't see how one has to do with the other.

Just a broad cultural observation. Despite rhetoric to the contrary, there are numerous hardships and almost no benefits to having served.
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Shouldn't college credit ideally correlate to some sort of knowledge or something? How much infantry-ing equates to an economics course?
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Adam: I have two friends who served. They are both attending college for free, being paid some sort of benefit each month as long as they keep up their GPA, and have inexpensive doctors available to them. They both came out of the military with a large pile of money (for age 24) in the bank, and lived for over a year without working. (This isn't what I would suggest doing with that money, obviously).

I've never talked to them about the issue in detail, but I get the impression that there are other benefits as well.

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Adam Masterman
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I'll admit that my impression is entirely subjective. Personally, I've watched the army severely injure my brother through what would be criminal negligence had a civilian doctor done it. And I watched him secure private insurance because the military wouldn't adequately treat his recovery after deployment. News stories and anecdotes have given me a very strong impression that this is the norm, not the exception. Soldiers with PTSD charged with cowardice, dereliction of duty, etc., all in the absence of any form of treatment. Stop-lossing and multiple deployments in order to achieve "war on the cheap." And, most galling of all, the "Support our Troops" bumper sticker crowd being as likely as not to defend such practices, and denounce reporters and whistleblowers for defaming the military. Again, just my observation, and by no means universal, but I definitely see a gap between the talk and the walk.
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My wife's uncle just retired after 20+ years in the military, the last 10 as a Ranger instructor at Fort Benning.

My step-brother finished 3 tours in Iraq and now works on helicopter maintenance at a local base.

My cousin is on his third deployment to Iraq (actually I believe he's in Kuwait). He was glad about the money he would make during his deployment though unhappy to be separated from his family, obviously. He make's considerably higher pay on military deployment than he does at his regular job as an auto mechanic.

None of them feel unhappy about their military service. Indeed, they are quite proud about the fact.

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Experience will vary drastically between the individual, where they served, what branch they served, who they served under, what injuries they received, where they live after leaving the military, etc.
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Adam Masterman
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quote:
Originally posted by JWatts:


None of them feel unhappy about their military service. Indeed, they are quite proud about the fact.

As does my brother. That doesn't contradict any of what I said.
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quote:
Originally posted by RickyB:
Do y'all get college credits for your life experience accumulated in service?

There is some limited college credit for "life experience" but this is typically granted at the community college level as part of an Associate degree or certification program and can sometimes be transferred to a university. It's usually more like CE credit. However, depending on their job in the military, servicemen can accumulate quite a bit of college credit from their formal training. For example, the sailors coming out of the Navy's nuclear power school (very long and intensive) can be credited with a ton of hours - I heard as much as 50 but I can't verify that and I imagine it varies considerably depending on the college and program. I know a lot of law enforcement and EMT programs will take military experience in lieu of some classes.
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quote:
Originally posted by RickyB:
I don't mean if you specialize in something technical at a difficulty level equivalent to actual college credits. Just for being an infantry grunt.

Sorry, missed that...almost unequivocally "no". Infantry skills have virtually no correlation to most academic programs.
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You do not get college credit for 'life experience', but you can get credits for certain training received. The amount of credit you can receive varies depending on the MOS and the college.
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quote:
Originally posted by remlind:
You do not get college credit for 'life experience', but you can get credits for certain training received. The amount of credit you can receive varies depending on the MOS and the college.

Ditto. But it usually has to be very technical training. Officers do not get college credits for management or critical decision making made in the field. The training was already credited as military science courses. Infantrymen do not get credit for rifle marksmanship. Most training, even most technical training, does not transfer as college credits. Life experience doesn't either unfortunately.
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Clep testing or auditing a course is a way of getting college credit for life experiences.
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The Air Force has a Community College of the Air Force, which is an accredited community college. Any enlisted member who completes his or her required training and a few off-duty courses, can receive an associates degree--sometimes two associates. These credits are transferable to 4-year colleges who have agreements with the Air Force. Officers are not included because they already have a 4-year degree. They are included in other programs which assist them in getting a masters degree. This includes getting graduate credit for Squadron Officers School, Air Command and Staff College, and Air War College.
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