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scifibum
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quote:
Originally posted by TommySama:
I reread Enders Game and Enders Shadow yesterday and today. Gotta say: I prefer Shadow. I hope there is some overlap. It would be easier. Just make a toddler walk around Battle School and have a tough sounding kid narrate a running monologue for 3 hours.

I think it's better if it's a toddler voice.

I think I was the only one who liked it at all, but I made a pretty dramatic short film by putting a soundtrack behind random footage of my toddler walking around on a playground. There were lots of accidental synchronizations of the emotions in the music and his movements and expressions. At least in my head. No one else seemed to get it.

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Hmm.

Did it have any vicious child-on-child violence? The ruthless obliteration of enemies is key to the genre...

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To avoid an R-rating for a show that should be very appealing to kids, they might actually deal with the Bonzo fight from the Enders' Shadow script.

1. Ender dismisses toon leaders.
2. Ender in shower, Bernard has towel, Bonzo postures, Dink tries to intervene.
3. Click to Bean in Cafeteria. Thuggish kid says that the ones after Ender aren't even there.
4. Bean goes running and sees Bonzo dead in corridor as in Enders' Shadow.
5. Continue with Enders' Game.

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That sounds like the most delicate way of slipping it in. Even for adults the shower fight scene has a particularly high potential for fit-pitching, depending on how close they are to the original novel.

The worst thing for this film would be to see it recast as a story for children or a family film. They did this with Northern Lights, and in doing so managed to turn a dark, serious novel into a flaccid fluff-story about magical animals.

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Well, they have The Hunger Games coming out now so that should help to desensitize people to kids killing kids while the adults watch. I liked the Shadow Books and Bean best too.
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I think they are more likely to make the movie a bit of a mix of Ender's Game and Ender's Shadow anyway. If the movie does well, they will want sequels, and Speaker for the Dead, while an enjoyable book, doesn't really lend itself to the big screen.

If they want to limit the graphic violence, Pete's way is probably best, and since I expect that they will be writing the movie to make a Bean centered sequel possible, it is the likely handling of that scene. (IF they want to limit the graphic violence)

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I don't want to see Enders' Game being made into a "family movie" either. But I think that the worst thing that could happen to the film is to be exactly faithful to the book, which would make it a pedophile's Spartacus. Graphically violent child pornography which would land the whole development team in federal prison. Naked children running down halls and beating each other to death in the showers. Junior Chained Heat. I'm a great fan of the book, but the film medium cannot decently portray certain things.

Same reason you won't see a religious film of the Bible depict a faithful depiction of the Levite's Concubine, or the story of Onan and Tamar. Even "The Passion," for all its controversial and graphic faithfulness to the text and to historical realities re crucifixion, put a loincloth on Jesus, while it's undisputed that the Romans always stripped their victims naked for crucifixion.

[ February 04, 2012, 08:22 PM: Message edited by: Pete at Home ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Pete at Home:
I don't want to see Enders' Game being made into a "family movie" either. But I think that the worst thing that could happen to the film is to be exactly faithful to the book, which would make it a pedophile's Spartacus. Graphically violent child pornography which would land the whole development team in federal prison. Naked children running down halls and beating each other to death in the showers. Junior Chained Heat. I'm a great fan of the book, but the film medium cannot decently portray certain things.

Ender spends a lot of time pounding his enemies genitals. I always thought the book was a bit homophilic [Wink]
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What, just because every time he roughhoused with boys, he brought the horseplay to a climax by finishing them off at the nuts?
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The latest publicity stills are out for Ender's game. The kids are too old and this will probably kill the box office. Butterfield was fine when he was selected, but now that the shooting's begun, he's had a growth spurt like Jay North did before the first take of the old Dennis the Menace.

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2012/12/03/fl-enders-game_510x380.jpg

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Yeah, it's pretty funny that he's almost as tall as Graff. I'm interested to see how well it shakes out.
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[yoda] Too old too old begin training.[/yoda]
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Why would the kids being early teens hurt box office sales?

Enders precise age is a detail. So they take out a few height insults.

You can't have a tall Bean on the other hand.

[ December 10, 2012, 11:32 AM: Message edited by: Pete at Home ]

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The problem comes when a "big" Ender beats a smaller kid to death.
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So you make Bonzo and Stilson muscled instead of taller. Asa's arms are skinny, frail. There's a reason that wrestling competitions class competitants by weight.

[ December 10, 2012, 11:34 AM: Message edited by: Pete at Home ]

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All the casting was done about the same time. It is too late to go back and get bigger stronger bullies. Hopefully they are able to frame the scene and explain Ender's actions in a way that doesn't horrify the part of the audience who has never read the book.
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Disappointed to hear that the Battle Room scenes are short and de-emphasized. Is the tech not ready for it?
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