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AI Wessex
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"Drones are great and all but they're no replacement for ships and men, at least not yet."

Not until they can produce them using your 3D printer. Speaking of which, how many Glocks have you made since you unveiled this great invention to us?

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"If Obama walked on water..."...

Did Barry write, yet another,autobiography?

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AI Wessex
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Have you ever taken the time to actually think about a response before posting? You don't seem to be very sharp these days.
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quote:
Originally posted by noel c.:
VL,

... And he willingly relinquishes, and shares, power with political opponents in the long-standing democratic tradition of Mother Russia. [Wink]

Atheist humanism and radical wahabbism are grateful for your uncritical support.

[ October 23, 2012, 06:14 PM: Message edited by: Viking_Longship ]

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NobleHunter,

I did a little research on the Mark 54 torpedo, and there are two problems with its use by the Toledo. First, it is 12" in diameter. Second, it is surface launched. U.S. submarine launched torpedos are 21" in diameter, and none currently in service utilize a shaped charge warhead capable of punching a hole through the 8mm outer-hull, and then the 50 mm pressure-hull of Kursk.

Interestingly, the primary heavy British torpedo, the Spearfish, is 21" in diameter with a very large shaped charge warhead, and there was a British attack sub on station during the Russian exercises.

... Just one possible explaination for that nice round hole.

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You know why the Kursk was equipped with screen doors?
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Why Pete?
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quote:
Originally posted by JoshCrow:
There are not enough ships for the War on Facts.

There are not enough ships to meet current demand:

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Vice Admiral William Burke, Deputy Chief of Naval Operations, Warfare Systems.
[QUOTE]Last year, the Navy met 53% of Combatant Commander demands, down 6% from 2010.

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“It would take a Navy of over 500 ships (Current fleet is 285) to meet the combatant commander requests. Of course it would take a similar increase in aircraft.”

Barry and his wonks want you to believe it's 100%, the guys that deliver tell you it's barely over 50% and dropping. So we can go with what the politicians say or we can go with the word of the people that have to actually fulfill the missions.
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There are not enough ships to meet current demand
To be fair, I cannot remember a time in living memory when all the branches of our military service were perfectly contented with what was being supplied to them.
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When it's your job and duty to protect people, "probably enough" is never enough.

They do the best they can with what is provided. I think most of them understand basic economics enough to be content more often than not with what they have.

Lets face it though. When something goes wrong one of the first questions is going to be, "Why didn't you ask for more if that's what we needed to prevent this?"

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quote:
Originally posted by noel c.:
Why Pete?

To keep out the fish.
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http://amultiverse.com/2012/10/24/reality-denialism/

Who is to blame for the four-year kitten gap?

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quote:
Originally posted by D.W.:
When it's your job and duty to protect people, "probably enough" is never enough.

The US armed forces are much bigger than necessary to protect the United States.

If we are talking about simultaneously protecting Taiwan, South Korea, commercial shipping, etc then maybe our force size is too small.

But in terms of defeating any force that wanted to invade the United States the rest of the world's armed forces combined probably would have a hard time making any headway.

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And if it came to that, that's actually why we have a nuclear deterrent.
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quote:
Originally posted by TomDavidson:
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There are not enough ships to meet current demand
To be fair, I cannot remember a time in living memory when all the branches of our military service were perfectly contented with what was being supplied to them.
True, but this kind of dismissive opinion only works when facts are not available. When you start slipping below 50% on your ability to meet mission demand, maybe it's more than just wanting more. Ya think?
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quote:
Originally posted by TomDavidson:
And if it came to that, that's actually why we have a nuclear deterrent.

Personally, I would prefer to avoid relying on a nuclear deterrent. Unlike Biden, I find nothing remotely funny in the prospect of a nuclear exchange.
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Seriously, you think Biden finds the prospect of a nuclear exchange funny? How much does what you're smoking cost?
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