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edgmatt
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Alright so this "Frankenstorm" as they are calling it is set to make landfall on my back porch; Toms River to be precise. Damage and power outages are going to be extensive, so everyone keep positive thoughts for us Jerseyites.

The president has declared a state of emergency for New Jersey (and other places) so I wanted to thank him for that. he did it early enough to get some money our way, and Chris Christie is putting it to good use. Mr. Christie has also thanked the President.

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Best of luck.

However... a moment of levity: will the spray tans be safe?

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Best of luck to you, VL, and everyone else in the immediate path.

By the time it gets out to me in Pittsburgh, it'll be annoying, but probably not nearly as bad as it will be for those of you near the shore.

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I saw some pretty bad pictures of LBI (the Chegg in particular) last night. Looks like the island is already basically underwater. Good luck on the mainland, there.
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Brian
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From the model I saw, it will swing back to the north-east somewhere around Williamsport, PA (halfway between me and Pyrtolin) and continue past about 40 mile west of me. However there are many, many ridges and valleys between here and there, so I can't even guess what the effect will be on me personally.

Has it hit land yet?

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Hypothetical: if Sandy were to have hit 1) exactly on election day, 2) the day before election day or 3) several days earlier, but at a time where many utilities were unavailable and some infrastructure was out of commission... what would be the likely response as far as running the actual election is concerned?
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The likely responce would be to proceed as usual. Then, depend on the outcome, the winner would be declared as the side which is obviously in control of the top secret weather machine.
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Edgematt you're pretty close to the shore. No evacuation notice?

[ October 29, 2012, 05:33 PM: Message edited by: Viking_Longship ]

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I'm right on the Queens-side of the East River, NYC. Quite sight! Manhattan is a ghostly blue outline in the mist, with occasional red flashing lights here and there. On the water, stormy whitecaps marching steadily downstream. Oo! Lights just blinked...may be about to lose power.

[ October 29, 2012, 05:41 PM: Message edited by: KidTokyo ]

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edgmatt
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The barrier islands have had mandatory evacuations, although some idiots actually stayed there. Seaside heights, lavellete...those places.

Atlantic City is "underwater" at the moment, which means that the ocean has flooded completely across AC to meet the bay on the other side. The last pic I saw had about 2-4 ft. of water on the roads.

I am about a mile west of the seaside bridge, but I don't expect any flooding, at least from the ocean and inlets. There might be some from the rain, but it hasn't been torrential yet, so that's positive.

Wind is probably the biggest issue for me personally, because of the trees and branches falling.

Politically, I have to say that the President has done the job that needs to be done for this sort of thing, and I commend him for it. I'm sure he will use this to help him in the election, but I can't say that I believe that's the reason for his quick action.

As far as "Jersey Shore" habits, like spray tanning, please please please don't think of Jersey like that. That show hypes a extremely small percentage of the Jersey population. Most Jersians are NOT proud of that show.

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Jersey's a great place, unfairly maligned, and widely misunderstood.
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Thanks Kid, I think that's accurate.

Update: Sandy turned more south than predicted, it's gonna hit right about on top of Atlantic City, so my street won't get COMPLETELY wiped out. No gambling for a month I bet, though.

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I think people who trash Jersey think it's one big Newark, that is certainly not the case. Central Jersey where I live and the shore where Matt is aren't like that.
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I forgot you had moved to Jersey. Is your area flooded, and do you still have power?
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I'm a little west of Matt. Three trees down in my yard, but no significant damage yet. The wind is insane. Not too much rain, just a lot of really powerful wind. I still have power. Friends around me have lost power.

A few ocean front bars have washed out to sea. The fun town pier was destroyed; fifty feet of it was ripped out and slammed into the shore.

Apparently there is a shark swimming through the streets of brigantine.

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I also hear that there is a row of twenty or so houses on fire in brick, and the fire company can't get to them. In this weather (high winds and very mild rain) I can only imagine the fire will burn hot and quick unless it is stopped.

[ October 29, 2012, 09:18 PM: Message edited by: JoshuaD ]

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I also just heard that a house hit the mantoloking bridge.
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http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012310290072
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Manhattan at this point is pretty much a wall of blackness. There is power still in sections, but from across the river the whole East Side looks like a regiment of 2001 monoliths. Dark, dark, dark...

Earlier, I saw diffuse blue flashes in the sky which I assumed had to be lightening. I later learned from the news that it was caused by power transformers blowing up.

The water on the street outside my building is hip deep. Luckily, the lobby of my building is elevated about six feet from street level. I'm on a higher floor and the building is noticeably swaying. We still have power...I don't think it will last though. It's already flickered a few times.

NYC in general is getting hammered. Flooding everywhere, buildings collapsing, cranes breaking apart...amazing.

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Buildings collapsing?! :-(

I lost power for forty five minutes, and it just came back on. The wind has mostly steadied out. Its still strong wind, but subdued compared to earlier.

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Building on 15th Street lost its front.

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[ October 29, 2012, 10:44 PM: Message edited by: KidTokyo ]

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edgmatt
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There is a ton of touched-up pics floating around on Facebook that look like crazy storm pics, but they are fake. I saw the one with the shark swimming in the street, and I think that is fake too.
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You mean this is probably a fake? I'm crushed.

https://twitter.com/ClaytonMorris/status/263066692429684736/photo/1

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Northeastern PA has lots of wind, (~30mph) some rain (~1-2 inches) and no power (~100,000 people).

I was sitting at home last night with the wind going at about 20 mph and no rain, when the power went out. I have no idea why. On my way to work this morning, I couldn't even see any trees down.
Fortunately for us, the storm swung further west than predicted and will apparently miss us completely. Now someone needs to let my power company know the good news. [Frown]

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AI Wessex
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Ann Arbor, MI has 20-30MPH winds and rain verging on snow. There's a great national wind map here that is created dynamically by someone who pulls NOAA data every hour.
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edgmatt
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That's awesome, Al.

Well, we made it, and extremely fortunate too, I think. 60-80% of Toms River has no power, but I have power. I drove around to see the damage; there are trees uprooted everywhere, fences blown down or away, trees in roads, blocked roads from down power lines, ambulances and fire trucks going everywhere.

I have one piece of fence down, because I stacked too much firewood against it. Fortune smiles on me.

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Good clean living pays off Edg. [Smile]
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We are fine but we have no power. I am writing from work now. Power is gradually being restored in town, so no starving hordes of looter appear to be on the horizon.
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But be wary of the zombie apocalypse, Viking.

This is just the kind of situation they're waiting for. [Wink]

(P.S. Glad to hear everyone is doing OK.)

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Got power back, obviously, and (Thank you God) heat.
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This is bad.

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Utility crews from several states East of the Mississippi River hit the road this week to volunteer their time and talents in Northeastern states hit hard by Hurricane Sandy. But crews from Alabama got the shock of their lives when other workers in a coastal New Jersey town told them they couldn’t lend a hand without a union card.

Electric repair work for public utilities in New Jersey is dominated by the International Brotherhood Of Electrical Workers, a unit of the politically powerful AFL-CIO.

Absolutely ridiculous. There are people who are freezing, have no access to food or heat, the lines for gas stations are stretching up to a mile (not because of lack of gasoline, but lack of gas stations with power to dish it out) and help is being offered to remedy these problems and it's being turned down? I am outraged.
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The Alabama utility companies that sent these crews say this is a distortion of what happened as does Gov Christie.

How is Tom's River doing? I have a friend there I have not yet heard from.

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"Absolutely ridiculous."

Agreed. It's not about them, it's about the victims. FWIW, I have about a dozen family members in NY and NJ, all of whom were directly affected by the storm. They're safe and in their homes, some without power, all more or less stranded by road closings and fuel rationing. I could give a damn about anybody's credentials right now.

My wife is an artist. We recently went gallery hopping in the Chelsea district of NYC about 2 blocks from the river. Those idiots didn't believe that the storm would be as bad as they were told, and now thousands of paintings by artists are being carted to the landfill. That's not the worst tragedy of the storm's aftermath, but the careers of dozens of artists and even the galleries that held their work are ruined.

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Viking: Toms River still has big areas that are blacked out, from what I've heard. That being said, there is a lot of support around, and I don't think there was too much significant damage to that town on the whole, beyond fallen trees.

Al: Thankfully, there's a bit more to the story. As I understand it, they were turned away because their help was needed more strongly elsewhere, but they were informed that they would have to provide union credentials in order to work.

It's a small distinction, but it turns it from a practical problem to a political-philosophy problem, and I care a lot less about that right now.

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