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TomDavidson
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quote:
"Barry" happens to be an actual alias used in his madrasah student iteration.
I kind of feel sorry for you, noel, because you were saddled with a name with no possible nicknames. That lack clearly scarred you. Did you try "Noey" for a while? Maybe "El?" Or "No-El, Son of Superman?"
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AI Wessex
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Do you understand the supreme idiocy in misapplication of a well known moniker? "Barry" happens to be an actual alias used in his madrasah student iteration. He has others, would you like a multiple choice?
Yes, this is what I'm trying to understand. Obama went to a Madrasa as a child over 50 years ago. Why do you think it's appropriate to call him by that name as a mature adult? There is no "supreme idiocy" in reusing a moniker or any other term in a new context. If it were you wouldn't type on your keyboard or talk about line feeds or carriage returns. Like wouldn't be a noun and friend wouldn't be a verb, and neither of those usages match the so-called definitions of those words. There are millions of other examples. You should bootstrap your knowledge of idiomatic expression, but I'll point out that you don't need to be wearing shoes with laces to do that..
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As I said, you need to rationally address it now... or not, but you will be wandering on your own.
This *is* addressing it now, you just don't seem to understand that

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noel c.
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Tom,

"I kind of feel sorry for you, noel, because you were saddled with a name with no possible nicknames. That lack clearly scarred you. Did you try 'Noey' for a while? Maybe 'El?' Or 'No-El, Son of Superman?" ...

"Noël" was the usual nickname, but "El" goes a little far (although I appreciate the sentiment). [Wink]

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Al,

Quote from the transcript text, or stop wasting my time.

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AI Wessex
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Watch the video. It's well-balanced and thorough.
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O'Rielly quotes, and responsive citations please.
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The FBI and DHS have released a warning bulletin to veterans and active duty soldiers in the US to delete their social media accounts and conceal their identities from any oonline social network as think they ISIS is actively trying to recruit people to initiate lone wolf attacks on service members and vets like what happened in Canada. This is disgusting. We need to wipe ISIS out.
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Seneca,

check snopes

The only source is

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/09/17/law-enforcement-bulletin-warned-isis-urging-jihad-attacks-on-us-soil/

No warnings were ever issued by the FBI or DHS.

http://snopes.com/politics/military/homeaddress.asp

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Originally posted by LetterRip:
Seneca,

check snopes

The only source is

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/09/17/law-enforcement-bulletin-warned-isis-urging-jihad-attacks-on-us-soil/

No warnings were ever issued by the FBI or DHS.

http://snopes.com/politics/military/homeaddress.asp

You are wrong.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/isis-threat-home-fbi-warns-us-military-social/story?id=27270662

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From your article:
"The spokesperson, Col. Steve Warren, told reporters he wasn’t aware of any new intelligence that might have triggered the bulletin and deferred questions to the FBI and DHS."

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So Steve Warren doesn't personally know the intel, so what?

The FBI and DHS probably do, which is why they released this new bulletin.

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"The FBI recently received reporting indicating individuals overseas are spotting and assessing like-minded individuals who are willing and capable of conducting attacks against current and former U.S.-based members of the United States military," the bulletin said.
"Spotting and assessing" is probably fairly close to "actively trying to recruit people"
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quote:
Originally posted by Seneca:
So Steve Warren doesn't personally know the intel, so what?

The FBI and DHS probably do, which is why they released this new bulletin.

Dude, it's a valid point. If Steve Warren isn't aware of it, it never happened. [Razz]
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Still, it was good of the FBI/DHS to issue a warning with no explanation for why they did it. Maybe they get paid by the hour?
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Here is a very specific threat with specific intel.

An ISIS hit list with 100 people's names, addresses, info, etc.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/purported-isis-group-posts-personal-details-100-us/story?id=29811503

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The military is warning about 100 service members about an online threat by a group purportedly affiliated with ISIS that has posted their alleged personal details and called on sympathizers to take violent action against them.

U.S. officials say the military services are notifying the families of the individuals named on the list.

On Saturday, a previously unknown group identifying itself as the "Islamic State Hacking Division" posted on a website the names, photos and home addresses of 100 American service members it said were involved in the U.S. airstrike campaign against ISIS in Iraq and Syria.

It said it did so to enable lone wolf sympathizers to kill those named on the list.

U.S. officials said they were aware of the list and were looking into it.

"I can't confirm the validity of the information, but we are looking into it," a Defense Department spokesperson said. "The safety of our service members is always a concern."

A law enforcement official told ABC News that the FBI is aware of the post and "monitoring" the situation.

Defense officials said the military services were contacting the families of the individuals included on the list.

"The Air Force is cooperating fully with DOD on this matter," Air Force spokeswoman Lt. Col. Holly Slaughter said. "The Air Force is taking the appropriate steps to make sure that everyone who needs to know is notified. As always, force protection is a primary concern."

"Naval Criminal Investigative Service is looking into the matter for the Navy and is taking the appropriate steps to ensure that everyone is notified," said a defense official.

Marine Corps spokesman Lt. John Caldwell said NCIS is conducting in-person notifications to the Navy and Marine personnel regarding the currently unverified threat/data breach.

"It is recommended Marines and family members check their online/social footprint, ensuring privacy settings are adjusted to limit the amount of available personal information," Caldwell said. "Vigilance and force protection considerations remain a priority for commanders and their personnel worldwide."

The hacking group claimed it compiled the list from military records, but it appears the photos and information may have come from information available on social media sites or public records. Some of the names appeared in official Defense Department articles about the war on ISIS or other unrelated operations.

Over the past year the military services and regional commands have taken steps requesting its personnel be prudent and limit the amount of personal information posted on social media sites.


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The feds have nabbed at least one person who traveled from Ohio, linked up with ISIS, got trained, then came back here intending to launch terrorist attacks.

http://nypost.com/2015/04/16/isis-trained-ohio-man-was-ordered-to-attack-us-feds/

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