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LetterRip
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I've seen the dash cam video and the video by the bystander.

If you see just one of the two it can really bias your view of what happened.

The officer is clearly just doing his job in a respectful and normal manner from the dash cam, then Walter Scott takes off running after being told to stay in his car. The officer gives pursuit, and you hear him yell 'Taser, Taser'.

https://youtu.be/Ttyxt3bjq2k

Then if you watch the bystander video you see the officer shooting Scott in the back while Scott is running away. Then you see the officer cuff Scott and later appears to drop something (his taser?) beside Scott.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEzYcrq3A38

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Fenring
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Can you explain what you mean by "it can really bias your view"? What exactly do you think watching both videos side by side tells us that contradicts the narrative that the office killed a fleeing man and then planted evidence next to him? Does it address the issue of the office not bothering to try to apply CPR after shooting him?
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I think he means "If you just watch the dashcam video, the officer's story seems much more plausible"
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I am not sure anything I saw in the bystander video can be justified no matter how polite things started. If you only saw the dash camera maybe.
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Fenring
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I think the bystander video speaks for itself. I agree with Mynnion that "it started out politely and then the officer murdered a man" isn't much different to me than "the officer started trouble and then murdered a man". Even "the man acted incorrectly in the situation and then the officer murdered the man" (which even the dashcam doesn't suggest) doesn't make it much better.

But I agree that only watching the dashcam would give you a wrong idea of the situation, which is exactly why this case is so noteworthy: because of the existence of the bystander video.

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Without the bystander video, the only recordings we have are the dashcam and the radio transmission, neither of which contradict the officer's story.
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quote:
Originally posted by philnotfil:
Without the bystander video, the only recordings we have are the dashcam and the radio transmission, neither of which contradict the officer's story.

Exactly [Wink]
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LetterRip
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It looks like Officer Slager was tasered by Walter Scott.

taser leads attached to Officer Slager

And his gun is drawn while Walter Scott is still within the range of the taser. Under the influence of the taser can have cognitive influences which might impair judgement of distance and threat. So he might well beat any murder or man slaughter charge.

[ April 12, 2015, 02:34 PM: Message edited by: LetterRip ]

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I think the cop was wrong to shoot the guy as he was running away. However, I do not like people calling this an execution. From the dashcam video, the cop seemed to be polite and non threatening. Then Scott runs. I have this serious disconnect between what I see in the first video and what I see in the second video. I just find it hard to see how it went from one to the other.

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LR,

I am skeptical of that image. The taser lines appear to either go to Scott's foot, or to an object far off in the grass. The object that was thrown aside moments before is lying in the dirt behind Slager. Or am I missing something?

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If that is a wire, then it has no sag whatsoever, meaning it is taut. What is maintaining the tension, if so? Scott is running at that point, so the wire cannot be attached to him (unless, as KT mentioned, it is attached to his foot) but then the wire would not make a straight line - it would be wavy.

Additionally, the line is at such an angle that the leads would need to have been attached to Slager's wrist or his face. Not impossible, but not obviously a stun gun wire.

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LetterRip
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KidTokyo and DonaldD,

my understanding is that the taser is dropped and the line is tangled on Walter Scotts feet. If you run with a slack line tangled on your feet there will be a moment when it is taught.

The line appears to go to his chest from my view.

If you look at the second video frame by frame, it stars with the taser right at Walter Scotts feet.

I'm also skeptical, and fully agree that it might not be a stun gun line. Something that makes me skeptical is would the darts pull out or would the stun gun body jerk when it goes taut. As far as I can tell the stun gun doesn't move.

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Fenring
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http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/04/former-prosecutor-says-cops-planting-evidence-on-people/

A prominent lawyer's take on planting the taser.

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