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John L
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Which process do you think will be first on the agenda?

1.Impeachment of Bush?

OR

2.Blaming Kerry for the Loss of the White House?

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3 What we have seen on this forum.
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Apparently it is to declare those in the electorate who voted for Bush, or anyone else other than Kerry less than smart. Abandon civil discourse and constructive political activity. And run to some other nation.

Hopefully they will adopt Senator Kerry's concession speech and stick around, engage in civil and active political debate, and not assume that others who didn't back gore or Kerry are mindless neocons or sheep.

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If McCullife stays in charge of the DNC, I can't help but wonder if the Clintons had a part in engineering Kerry's loss.

I mean, the top Clinton Advisors were advising Kerry, It would be very easy for them to send the ship just a little off keel, and cost Kerry the election. McCullife stays in charge, and Hillary's setup perfectly for 2008.

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The next step is going to be getting through the next 4 years, minimizing what they think of as damage (whether it is actually damaging or not is yet to be seen). They will probably start preparing for the 2008 election, though a million things will change between now and then. Hopefully they will arrive on a moderate solution rather than a more polarizing step left.
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Lewkowski
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I don't think she can win in 2008. Only if the Republicans pick a horrible person in their primaries to win.
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Another Clinton conspiracy theory..gotta love those.
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Richard Dey
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Were I a Democrat, I would immediately abandon the party and support Schwarzenegger (can't even spell it) for president: fiscally conservative, socially liberal.

The split clearly points to a moderate majority; how else can one explain a huge turnout for candidates that nobody particularly liked ...?

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LoverOfJoy
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Except Arnold is not eligible for the spot.
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Yeah. I expect the Democrats as we know them to come to something of an end in the near future. Richard is correct in that the best chance the Dem's have of getting anyone elected is to go with a fiscal conservative/socially liberal dude. And on foreign policy... wait for Iraq to turn in to Viet Nam, and if it doesn't (Allah willing) celebrate the successful state we've built there and move on.

-Ivan

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None of the above--though in many respects the election was Kerry's to lose.

IMO, the party needs to come out swinging, and hard, on policy matters. For the next two years, the Dems need to make even more noise than Kerry made on Iraq, Sudan, the economy, jobs, health care, education... offer clear, concise criticisms of administration or Repub actions or inactions, and alternatives to the things they're complaining about. Complain about the press to the other press. Tell the country what is wrong, why those things are wrong, and what they will do to fix it.

In other words, do the things that could have won this election.

And ignore the under-30 crowd, don't even bother to attempt to mobilize. They're either already voting or they're not going to.

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I expect them to try to make sure that Bush doesn't do permanent damage to the United States
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quote:
"And ignore the under-30 crowd, don't even bother to attempt to mobilize. They're either already voting or they're not going to."
I think your insight on this point is very true. From what I have researched, despite MTV's (and various 527's) huge efforts to get out the youth vote, the numbers of young people at the polls have stayed virtually the same since the 2000 Presidential election.

[ November 03, 2004, 05:16 PM: Message edited by: FIJC ]

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Well, at least they didn't decline!
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That's wrong. Youth turnout did go up this year.

On the other hand, youth turnout as a percentage of the total turnout did not change this year.

Conclusion: Youth turnout went up, but so did the "old fogie" turnout.

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John L
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speaking of getting on topic, what does anyone think of the two questions at the top?
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They are not exhaustive. Take a week off, then get rid of all policy wonks-- including Carville and Begala, policy sci and history professors, move to Kansas with a bunch of true believing theologians and philosophers, and figure out what it means to be a political party in 21 century America.
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Of course Kerry will be blamed. Gore was, and the Republicans blamed GHWB and Dole, as well.

Impeachment? Not likely.

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Impeach the warmongering neo con born again christian fanatic.
Besides chances are the election are some massive right wing conspiracy. Right!
And Laura Bush is just too sickeningly even handed and nice that she has to be lying! Impeach her too!

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John L. asked:
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Which process do you think will be first on the agenda?

1.Impeachment of Bush?

OR

2.Blaming Kerry for the Loss of the White House

While we're disappointed with his re-election, most moderate Democrats will be willing to work with Bush. But in order for that to happen Bush must less aggressively pursue some policies that Democrats strongly oppose, and perhaps even support some issues that are important to Democrats. After all, why would I support a president with whom I disagree on almost every important issue in America?

I realize that such conciliatory positions will disconcert many conservatives, but it's what Bush must do if he's serious about uniting America. I'm hopeful that he will.

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Richard Dey
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Let's just think back at what the Democrats did to heal the contusions and abrasions following their landslide victories in the old days .... I was trying to do just that, and I don't think there's anything to be learnt from them, Zyne; so I would agree with you. Attack. And, as I said elsewhere, attack them on their morals; that's where the Republicans are most vulnerable. Democrats wear their hearts on their sleeves; Republicans these days wear their crosses on their sleeves.

Nor should we confuse 'conservatives' with 'reactionaries'. Shake hands but no kissies!

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It appears that Senator Harry Reid will be the next minority leader. A pro-life democrat may be just what the party needs to move back to center and abandon the leftists that have overtaken the party recently. I would be tempted to vote for conservative democrats who are not obstructionists like Daschle.
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