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TommySama
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"As for what Tommy says about how teachers treat young males I'll quote Prince; "Show me a boy who stays in school and I'll show you a boy, oh yeah." Truer words were seldom spoken."

Actually I meant how they treat everyone. I think boys just have a harder time dealing with it.


Closest to a fight I ever was it: kid was bugging my girlfriend and I got really mad, grabbed him by the shirt, shook him and screamed at him... he got the idea.

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Last night I watched the BBC’s new sci-fi production Torchwood (the clue’s in its anagram). For those that don’t know it recounts the exploits of Captain Jack Harkness (played by John Barrowman) and his team of alien tech scavengers and seems to be set entirely in Cardiff. In fact you tend to see a lot of Cardiff. Two episodes were shown last night the first was an introduction and the second contained sex and CCTV. It’s got my interest so far. John Barrowman seems to have been on every talk show in the UK promoting him and the TV series. There is nothing we don’t know about John Barrowman.

The BBC seems to have been splashing out lately on productions. We’ve had plenty on The Roman Empire. Romans killing Romans, Romans killing Christians, Romans killing Jews and lastly Romans killing Romans for Empire wide Christianity. There’s been a very enjoyable version of Jane Eyre. The BBC also did a program where viewers got to pick, from thousands of hopefuls, a woman to play Maria in Andrew Lloyd Webber new production of the Sound of Music. John Barrowman was on the panel of judges. Finally we have the BBC’s new Robin Hood. This version of Robin doesn’t want to kill anyone because of something that happened when he was in the Holy Land. He wants people to like him and refuses to kill the Sheriff. Don’t think this one will travel.

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"...a very enjoyable version of Jane Eyre."

Don't believe that's possible, Mate.


"The BBC also did a program where viewers got to pick, from thousands of hopefuls, a woman to play Maria in Andrew Lloyd Webber new production of the Sound of Music."

I assume you mean pogrom.


(Sorry, i'm not much for TV. I do know what the Sound of Music is though, thus the pun...)

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TS

I thought the story of Jane Eyre had been done to death, so to speak, and only watched because the wife wanted to see it. Soon became hooked though but that’s a secret just between me and my computer.

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My girlfriend really likes pigs... for some reason

So I think I'm going to get her this shirt:

http://www.noisebot.com/please_dont_eat_me_i_love_you_t-shirt

Think she'll like it?

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quote:
Last night I watched the BBC’s new sci-fi production Torchwood (the clue’s in its anagram). For those that don’t know it recounts the exploits of Captain Jack Harkness (played by John Barrowman) and his team of alien tech scavengers and seems to be set entirely in Cardiff. In fact you tend to see a lot of Cardiff. Two episodes were shown last night the first was an introduction and the second contained sex and CCTV. It’s got my interest so far. John Barrowman seems to have been on every talk show in the UK promoting him and the TV series. There is nothing we don’t know about John Barrowman.
This is a Doctor Who spinoff?
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Depends on how she takes it, TS. Does she eat bacon and/or ham?
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cperry

She didn't so much do anything to me, except annoy the hell out of me and refuse to let me read, try to force me to "help" other kids when I finished my work, publish my poetry in some school anthology when I told her not too, make a public announcement to the class when my mom died (you know, the people who needed to know knew), insist on touching me when I told her not to, and then get me suspended when I yelled at her for it, get me searched by the school cop repeatedly in the first couple weeks of school because she insisted I must be on drugs (and freshman year, I wasn't), call my dad at work all the time over basically nothing...which got him in trouble and meant I got a 6-14 hour screaming fit out of him when I got home (not exagerating), pester me constantly about refusing to write for the school paper or join the debate team....

Basically, it all came down to her being a petty tyrant, without the sense to back the heck off a kid who did nothing but read quietly if left alone, and whose life she knew was in complete turmoil. A kid with a folder in the office which said he was suffering from PTSD and clinical depression.

Mostly, however, it's not what she did, it's that I was sick, wasn't getting proper care, and was dealing with major trauma and adolescence.

The VP was just a bullying jerk, who suspended me for "fighting" on the way home from school, a fight that involved two other dudes deciding to come at me. He also threatened to expel me all the time.

Mostly, though, I wanted to off myself and couldn't bring myself to do it. If I killed them, then I wouldn't have a choice anymore, and I'd have to go through with it.

The fact that I realized that, had what I can only term a momment of clarity, is why I didn't.

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"Depends on how she takes it, TS. Does she eat bacon and/or ham?"

She's Jewish [Smile]

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Jewish Elders lift ban on ham
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"Jewish Elders lift ban on ham"

See the vegemite thread. A global sandwich meat race is on...

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One day, a rabbi and a priest were talking.
The priest asks the Rabbi, "Rabbi, have you ever broken kosher and eaten pork?"
Well.. yes," the rabbi responded. "Once."
"How was it?" Asked the priest.
"Eh, it was alright. May I ask you a question?"
"Yes," said the priest.
"Have you ever broken your vow of celibacy and had sexual intercourse with a woman?"
The priest said, "Well, yes... once. But it was a long time ago."
A few awkward seconds later the rabbi said, "It's better than pork, isn't it."

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LOL

Very funny, Tommy.

(It's better than anything! Hoo Haa!) <Pacino voice>

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Ya gotta ask: how did Sammy Davis, Jr. stand it?
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Wow, Jesse. Yikes. I guess there are bad apples in every bunch. Is it at all possible that she thought she was helping? Have you read OSC's book The Lost Boys? There's an elementary school teacher in that book who sounds like this teacher's cousin.

Sorry, man. It gives the rest of us a bad name.

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She's Jewish? Too funny, TS. Well, I'd like the shirt!
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"She's Jewish? Too funny, TS. Well, I'd like the shirt!"

I know. Hard to believe, but Jew jokes got old after awhile (for me!)

I was really surprised...

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Don't read Lost Boys unless you have a handkerchief handy.

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For our mny IT engineers:

<begin>
Most mornings kicked in like this: toweled and tousled, a freshly rinsed August poured a cup, sniffed without sipping, wandered to the library desk, sat down and switched the PC on in one motion. Shuttle docking into the space station while his right hand brought the coffee to his lips almost simultaneously with his pushing of the button.

Reflective enough to have occasionally considered the symbolic symmetry of the event, he normally didn’t pay attention to the spontaneous ignition of machine and mind via electricity and caffeine.

It was simply how he lived. From dawn until dusk, he and the realm of electronic data were one. Dipping his oar in liquid data, he left dock and checked his email. Ahoy. Lunch with Donatello? Had he a link for that Brazilian heuristics guy? When he left for breakfast (magic food: push buttons and wait a minute), a wake shimmered on the surface of the data waters. The cookies of his canoe. A data string of eddies. Then stillness on the face of the waters.

The world atop the library table sat, still but not motionless, awaiting the return of god, who generally arrived around 7 or 8 PM; Augustus generally stopped for a drink and a falafel at Jimmy Noise’s Bar & Grill before going home.

August knew none of this was really real. Cyberspace was not really real. It was an assembly line, a manufactory web of superficial images and recreated sounds. August knew this because, paradoxically, he knew an extremely detailed amount about how these illusions were conjured: pulsing electrons, queued algorithms, etched crystal wafers. The real reality was that of buried fiber optic cables, orbiting satellites, and a legion of ghosts in machines typed character by character into so-called ‘strings of code’ by gnomes in solitary burrows deep within the corporate massif.

But the effect was the same as reality, and effects are what phenomena produce in sentient beings. August knew none of this was really real, but he also knew how it was made manifest, unlike the very real world full of wind and smell and traffic that demanded his attention upon exiting the tall building housing his workplace office, or the millimeter of statically charged air that his (somewhat anachronistic) cathode ray tube display monitor placed between itself and the ordinary (simply real) air of August’s fluorescent lit office cubicle, a space itself more illusion than fact, a privacy more invaded than maintained by shoulder-high divider walls.

August hadn't a clue how the real world came to be or why or simply was, hence the serenity of digitality.
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I was walking to work the other day.
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Actually, it was more of an amble.
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Whoa, I just found out that Scott Adams, the Dilbert cartoonist, hasn't been able to speak for the past 18 months due to a brain problem (except for prepared public speeches---apparently the brain uses a different area to do those). Somehow he recently recovered, even though the doctors told him it would be impossible, but---wow, I guess you never know what problems successful-seeming people have, do you?

http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2006/10/good_news_day.html

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He diagnosed himself via the internet. Seriously.
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He diagnosed himself via the internet. Seriously.
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I asked my doctor – a specialist for this condition – how many people have ever gotten better. Answer: zero.
Clearly, whether he diagnosed himself via the Internet or not, he is consulting a doctor who happens to be a specialist for the condition. I actually didn't see anything in the linked post that said he diagnosed himself. I've only been reading his blog for a few weeks now and I haven't looked back through 18 months of blog posts to see if he has posted on this before and what he said in those posts.

Seriously kenmeer, just because someone gets medical information off of the Internet doesn't mean that they didn't also consult a doctor or three. Heck, if I had something strange happening and my doctor couldn't figure it out and the specialists he was sending me to couldn't figure it out, I would be out on the Internet during whatever available time I had doing research and bringing the results to those same doctors. Didn't Pete at Home do just that with his son's condition when the doctors couldn't figure out what was causing his condition?

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Dave at Work - there is an entertaining blog entry that describes how he diagnosed himself via the Internet - then went to a specialist on the condition who confirmed the diagnosis. He'd talked to many doctors and head-shrinks up to that point, all who were baffled.

So yes, he diagnosed himself via the Internet.

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Dave at Work - there is an entertaining blog entry that describes how he diagnosed himself via the Internet - then went to a specialist on the condition who confirmed the diagnosis. He'd talked to many doctors and head-shrinks up to that point, all who were baffled.

So yes, he diagnosed himself via the Internet.

I think that I am reading a tone of voice in kenmeers post that maybe isn't really there. I took it that he was being dismissive of Scott Adam's condition and apparent recovery. I hearby apologize to kenmeer for mischaracterizing the tone of his post in my head and reacting to it. I blame the sinus headache that I have been suffering all day [Smile] .

I haven't had a chance to go through the archives of his blog entries yet, I've only read the ones since I heard about his blog and started reading it a few weeks ago. When I get the chance I plan to at least skim through his past posts.

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If I get a chance, I may lookup which post it was. It was very entertaining, as always.
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Can You Hear Me Now?

Last May I started having trouble with my voice. I figured it was allergies. But it didn’t get better when allergy season ended. Eventually I went to the doctor and he told me it might be acid reflux. I popped the anti-reflux pills and waited for the cure. But it only got worse. On the next trip my doctor diagnosed it as bronchitis, which I think it probably was at that point. No problem. I popped the antibiotics, and waited for the cure. But my voice kept getting worse.

After a few months of worsening I could only talk in certain situations. I could speak perfectly when I was alone. And I could speak perfectly when I gave a speech to a crowd. But I couldn’t speak intelligibly on the phone or in one-on-one conversations. I’d try to talk and literally nothing would come out. The best I could do was a whisper. Obviously I was nuts.

So I consulted my doctor again and he referred me to the “obviously you’re nuts” doctor who said, essentially, “Obviously you’re nuts.” She thought maybe Paxil would help, since my problem seemed to have a social trigger. I said “no thanks” and continued down the specialist trail.

My trip to the ear, nose, and throat doctor was an adventure. His job was to look for polyps. My gag reflex was too strong for the “direct route,” as he put it, so he said he would need to look via the “indirect route.” He pulled out a two-foot long tube thing with a camera on the end and started greasing it up. At the sight of this device, and not knowing exactly what the “indirect method” involved, my sphincter slammed shut and I started yelling “Nooooo!!!” But it turns out you can get to the throat via the nose. This is not pleasant, but compared to the alternative I was delighted.

There were no polyps in my throat, and so that possibility was ruled out. However, my nasal passage was described as “10 miles of bad road,” so I had surgery to straighten that out just for good measure. That hurt a lot, but it worked out great as far as breathing. Unfortunately I still couldn’t speak, and it was getting worse. And I had a bunch of speaking engagements upcoming. Could I still speak in front of a crowd? I didn’t know for sure because my voice had worsened since the last time I tried.

I don’t know how many of you fear public speaking. It normally doesn’t bother me. But when you’re standing back stage while a thousand people are waiting to hear you speak, and you don’t know whether you’ll be able to utter a peep, that’s some scary ****. But amazingly, I would go from barely able to whisper back stage to normal voice on stage. Obviously I was nuts.

That’s when Google saved my sanity. I was taking a shower one day – that’s where all my good ideas are born – and I started to wonder if my bizarre throat problem was related to my bizarre hand problem. My right pinky goes into spasms when I try to draw on paper, yet I have no problem drawing on a computer even though I hold the stylus just like a pen. I knew from experience that this too had seemed like I was nuts until I found the right doctor to diagnose it.

I dried off and Googled “dystonia” – the name for my hand problem, plus “voice.” Bingo. There’s a rare neurological condition called a spasmodic dysphonia with voice symptoms identical to mine. When I played the online voice samples of people who have it, they sounded just like me. The symptoms are amazingly specific, as in “can speak clearly while yawning but can’t speak on the phone.” And “can sing but can’t speak in normal voice.” There’s even a propensity for this condition to pair with another dystonia, like the one in my hand.

Now all I had to do was convince my doctor(s) that I wasn’t nuts and that I had a very rare condition. As you might imagine, when you tell a doctor that you think you have a very rare condition, that doctor will tell you that it’s very unlikely. Your first impulse might be to point out that “very rare” is a lot like “very unlikely,” but you don’t do that, because doctors have wide latitude in deciding which of your orifices they will use for various medical apparati. So you go with the protocol which involves systematically eliminating all the things that are more likely.

The next speech doctor had access to better technology than the first and determined that I almost certainly did not have the rare neurological disorder that both I and Google insisted I did. She based her opinion on how I sounded and the fact that it was very unlikely that I would have a very unlikely condition. But she did notice a facial tick that might indicate a brain tumor as the culprit.

So off I went to the neurologist who tapped me in various places with a rubber hammer and stared at me for a while and didn’t see any ticks. But she thought maybe an MRI was in order just to eliminate the possibility of a brain tumor. That test came out clean.

By that time, I don’t mind saying I was fighting off a powerful cloud of depression, partly because so many people assumed I was nuts, and partly because I couldn’t have any sort of normal social interaction. It was like observing life as a ghost. I was there, sort of, but I couldn’t speak in most situations. My entire personality depends on being witty and charming. Relying instead on my good looks isn’t a good Plan B. I learned that loneliness is only solved by speaking, and not by listening. I was dying inside. If this problem wasn’t fixable – and so far my doctors were stumped – the quality of my life was going to plunge about 80% for the next 100 years that I planned to live. I’m an optimistic guy, but there’s no amount of positive thinking that can fix that sort of thing.

Eventually, as the medical protocol worked its way out, I found my way to a neurologist who specializes in my alleged rare neurological disorder. She listened to me for about 30 seconds and said essentially “Yup. That’s it.” Google was right. The good news is that I wasn’t nuts. The better news is that there is a well-established treatment. The bad news is that the treatment is not fun.

The treatment involves Botox™ injections to the vocal cords several times a year. Botox temporarily deadens the muscles that cause the spasms that choke off the voice. Apparently those muscles aren’t good for much besides misbehaving, so you can stun them with minimal side effects.

If you’re squeamish, skip this paragraph. I’m going to describe the process. The neurologist sticks two electronic sensors on my neck so she can determine when the needle is in the right spot. Then she gives me a local anesthetic on the neck below the adam’s apple. This is just preparation for the bigger and nastier needle that will deliver the Botox. The Botox needle goes through the front of the neck and then she works it toward the inside back of the throat where the vocal cords are. When she’s near the right spot, she tells me to say “eeeee.” Then when the needle touches the right place, her electronic gizmo goes all static and she plunges in for the first shot. The needle stays in the front of my neck as she maneuvers it to the other side of the inside of my throat and repeats. It doesn’t hurt as much as it would seem, but the creepy factor is through the roof. You can feel the needle inside your neck the whole time. The “bad part” takes about 60 seconds, and believe it or not, you can actually get used to it. Kind of.

A week after the first shot, and right on schedule, the nerve endings in my neck took a holiday and my voice returned. My voice isn’t perfect, and I need regular booster shots, but the treatment works, especially when giving speeches. I’ve given two speeches since starting the treatments, including one this afternoon, and everything was terrific.

I learned that different parts of your brain process speech depending on the context. My telephone speaking context is still a challenge, but my giving-a-speech context works well. I’m not so nuts after all.

On my follow-up appointment, my doctor asked if the Botox worked and I just hugged her. Speaking seemed redundant. Now when I speak to people – for any reason – I am so freaking happy I can’t even describe it. And when I speak to a packed ballroom, like today, I feel reborn. It is pure joy, and I feel like the luckiest guy in the world. Every day feels like a gift now. And that, my friends, is the rarest neurological disorder of them all.

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Knowing ken he probably thinks it was groovy that he diagnosed himself with the internet, anyway. [Smile]
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Javelin, thanks for digging that up. I'll read the rest of it at home.

Funean, you are probably correct about what kenmeer thinks about diagnosing oneself over the Internet. I really should have just taken the afternoon off once this sinus headache settled in, but I decided to push on, going to class and coming back to the office, despite being nearly incapacitated by this headache. It's so bad that I have to wonder if I didn't get it by reading one of kenmeers posts to begin with [Smile] . That last sentence was a joke. I'm just saying, because apparently my judgement is a bit impaired at the moment and I don't want it being misinterpreted as something else.

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"Seriously kenmeer, just because someone gets medical information off of the Internet doesn't mean that they didn't also consult a doctor or three."

Someone recently posted an article by Scott where he said precisely what I said. That's all I know.

I have a rare condition called HHT. Trust me, if it was up to the 3 doctors in town I've seen about my incrasingl recurrent spontaneous epitaxes (is TOO a word that's not about cycles of taxation!), I wouldn't know what I have. And the treatment they would have adminstered for them would only have made them worse.

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The only thing I hate about Bill Maher is that he makes fun of Restless Leg Syndrome like it is just your body telling you to get off the couch. I can kick his dope smoking ass using only my legs but if it wasn't for Tramadol (non addictive) I couldn't get a decent nights sleep. It's hereditary and I feel so sorry for my grandmother as I hear stories of the scalding hot baths and heating pads she suffered through for life. I only had to suffer until Tramadol came out.

I think our generation is soft, and we take for granted all the things we have. Myself included.

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As though it were set in stone?
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So, it snowed last night. Last football game of the season, too. The vendors had a good night selling sweaters galore (I even picked one up...it was damn cold!) The attendance was about 32,000 and the stadium looked half empty...I guess I'm used to hockey where 18,000 people will jam pack the colliseum, and the roof keeps all the noise inside.

Anyway, we woke up this morning to a clean, crisp white world with fat flakes tumbling down to the earth.

And now I'm off to preserve the ancient and noble tradition of Street Hockey!

Game On!

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Still glowing golden scarlet with patches of purple here in Spokane's fall climax.

Favorite time of year.

But I envy you the snow.

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The weather here in Southampton, UK is very strange. When I was a lad this time, just before bonfire night, was a time for balaclava helmets, scarves and gloves. Now we have warm days with people still wearing shorts (I know what I mean). We apparently are going to have a bumper wine harvest this year. Strange insects are starting to appear on our shores. We have a moth that looks like a Hummingbird. All the plants in the garden are still growing because although warm we still get sudden down pours of rain. The predictions are that in twenty years the weather here will be like the South of France. Perhaps that’s why everyone’s coming here. This weather is obviously nothing to do with Global Warming.
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"It is enough if you don't freeze in the cold, and if thirst and hunger don't claw at your insides.

If your back isn't broken, if your feet can walk, if both arms can bend, if both eyes can hear, then whom should you envy? And why? Our envy of others devours us most of all.

Rub your eyes and purify your heart and prize above all else in the world those who love you and who wish you well. After all, it might be your last act."
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago

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"if both eyes can hear"

It all turns into surrealism once it's processed by the kenmeer 5000 [Smile]

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Eyes. ears, whatever. Facial sensory organs. [Wink] They all smell alike to me in the daek.
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I mean dark.
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