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David Ricardo
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Craig Crawford makes a hilariously accurate prediction of how the bureaucratic morons and their politician masters will soon be blaming the media for their own failures:

http://crawfordslist.blogspot.com/2005/09/katrina-you-just-cant-spin-away-dead.html

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“I’m sure it won’t be long before the politicians start blaming the media. Yeah right, we’re not covering the good news about this hurricane—like maybe how the French Quarter needed a good scrubbing anyway, and how already overweight Americans won’t be eating all that fattening food served by restaurants now under water.”
Just wanted to stir the pot a little bit before Daruma goes on his "Liberal Media Bias: Katrina" posting spree.
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http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/002341.html

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We heard this on CNN (on satellite radio) last night while we were driving home and almost ran off the road. It was an exchange between anchor Aaron Brown and Jamie McIntyre, CNN's senior Pentagon correspondent, about the military seeking to explain it's slow response to Katrina:

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MCINTYRE: And as to your question about political, I talked to a lot of people at the Pentagon today who were very frustrated about the fact that the perception was being created that the military didn't move fast enough. And they did it somewhat as political. They thought that part of the motivation was the critics of the administration to make the president look bad.

And they seemed to question the motives of some of our reporters who were out there and hearing these stories from the victims about why they had so much sympathy for the victims, and not as much sympathy for the challenges that the government met in meeting this challenge.

And I have to say thinking about that, it doesn't really seem all that unusual that you would tend to understand the plight of the victims a little more than the bureaucrats in Washington.

BROWN: Yes, I mean, I'm glad you told us that. And they have every right to believe they believe and think the way they think. I mean, and I mean that. But you've got people who have been living as refugees. It is not hard to understand why our first heart beat goes in their direction. We'll worry about the bureaucrats later.


Adminstration bureaucrats whine: Why all the sympathy for the refugees? We deserve sympathy too!
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TS Elliot
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this is sooo far removed from any sort of justice, it makes me wanna scream!!!
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Are you really the right person to be commenting on anyone else's obligatory posting topics? Just curious... [Wink]
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Regardless, he makes a salient point. Not so much about Daruma, but about the content.
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TS Elliot
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it seems that bill o'reilly has no problem finding the spin: he simply states that it's all about the looting and doesn't comment anything else. I am really quite unhappy about becoming aware of this mans existence. I am happy about not living near this guy, otherwise i'd have a real dilemma if shooting this guy would be worth risking to go to jail for.
But, and I find this confusing, it seems there is dissent in the ranks, some Foxists don't wanna spin this in a blame the-victim kinda way.

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TS Elliot - if you hate Fox so much (and you're definitely not the only one) why not watch something else?

Politicians across the board are whiny morons. We knew that...

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some Foxists don't wanna spin this in a blame the-victim kinda way
I don't watch Fox, so I don't know exactly what you're referencing, but as a general rule, there's a difference between blaming victims for the tragedy they're victims of, and blaming the victims of a tragedy for their inappropriate actions afterwards. The first is inexcusable. The second is necessary.
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Daruma28
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I was going to post about it, but I got distracted when I started reading through the archives of all the David Ricardo - Abu Ghraib threads.

12 down, 2534243545414324 to go.....

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I hate to say it- again, but I really like watching Bill O'Reilly. At least he's up front about his right leanings (he says to counter the leftist mass media), but most of the time he is fair and makes sense. Sense of the common kind, that ain't so common.

Oh, God, did I just post a post defending Bill O'Reilly? [Frown]

KE

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just when I started to like you, KE ... [Confused]
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Ok..here it is...days later...but better late than never.

Here's my obligatory "Librul Media Bias" post on coverage of Katrina...

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The Second Battle of New Orleans
September 14th, 2005

As the last of the evacuees from New Orleans settle into shelters, the levees are plugged and the water begins to recede, what is being revealed is not the tens of thousands of dead bodies predicted for the past two weeks but some of the most inaccurate reporting of a major news story in memory. While the mainstream media has been climbing all over itself trying to find ways to tie George Bush to the New Orleans disaster, it might be better served trying to figure out how they could have so uncritically accepted a body count from New Orleans that could easily be ten or more times the actual number.

As the days passed and the body count in New Orleans stayed in triple digits, shouldn’t some of the talking heads at the major networks or the pundits at the national newspapers have begun to ask themselves where were all the bodies? Before self-appointing itself the role of discovering all the failures of the Bush administration in the ongoing national disaster, perhaps they should try to account for how they could have spent so much time informing the American people of a catastrophic loss of life that never occurred. Much of the public perception of governmental incompetence and failure in the relief effort was based on their vastly exaggerated projected body count.

The media filtered what they were reporting through their preconceived political biases and racial stereotypes and emphasized those stories that re-enforced their preconceptions. From the outset, the TV reporters started talking about two disasters: the natural disaster which was caused by the hurricane and the man-made disaster which happened in New Orleans, the blame for which was laid at the hands of George Bush. According to the script, the tragedy of the original hit from the hurricane was turned into a human catastrophe by the failure of the federal government to respond in an effective and timely manner. The levees gave way because Bush had refused to authorize the money to upgrade them, the National Guard was unavailable because they had all been sent to Iraq, the federal government didn’t respond quickly because it would have interfered with Bush’s vacation, the hurricane was the result of global warming, which of course was caused by the Bush Administration sacrifice of the environment for the profit of Bush’s cronies, the indifference to the suffering of the people in the region was due to Bush’s lack of concern for those who are black or poor, the inefficiency in the relief effort was due to the appointment of unqualified friends and supporters.

The media was also filtering the events through racial stereotyping of blacks as either criminal or hopelessly poor, incompetent and wholly dependent on governmental largesse. Complementary to this was the portrait of the Bush Administration as white, wealthy and indifferent to poor blacks. This narrative of catastrophic loss of the lives of thousands of poor blacks at the hands of an uncaring and incompetent white administration played out day after day with nobody seeming to notice that events weren’t really following the script. Tales of anarchy at the Superdome with large numbers of rapes and murders did not turn out to be true (though they have done enormous damage to our international reputation), as police reported no claims of rapes and few weapons were found. Ominously, twenty-five thousand body bags were ordered to the New Orleans area but in one of the all-time cases of over ordering, it seems they have a need for less than 3% of them.

Simple logic indicated that these predictions of massive numbers of dead were very unlikely. The reporting of the event largely ignored or overlooked some very important factors.

The catastrophic disaster scenario never occurred. The feared event was that New Orleans would be hit by a category four or five storm and a storm surge twenty feet high would flow over the levees. Once there, the levees would trap the water and New Orleans would become a bowl that filled up too fast and the ensuing rush of trapped water would drown tens of thousands of people. That simply didn’t happen. Instead, the levees broke under the pressure of the rising level of the lake and the water flowed into the city, equalizing the water level in the city and the lake. In the initial stages, there was rapidly rising water that led to some drowning but not on anything like the catastrophic scale envisioned by the mayor and members of the media.

While the water posed a significant threat to the functioning of the city, it for the most part did not pose an immediate threat to lives. To the extent that it did, the saving of lives of people trapped by the flood in houses and on roofs became the main focus of the initial rescue efforts. Thousands of trapped people were rescued by boats and helicopters from the flooded streets of the city as Coast Guard personnel, police and volunteers worked round the clock for several days getting to every survivor they could find.
Many of the people of New Orleans who did not evacuate took precautions to prepare for the ordeal. Those who chose to wait it out at home mostly stocked up on bottled water and canned foods. Among those who chose to seek shelter at the Superdome or the Convention Center, many heeded the advice to bring provisions to last two or three days. There had to have been some provisions at these evacuation centers since almost everyone survived the ordeal and they certainly wouldn’t have lasted three days in 95 degree heat if they didn’t take in any fluids.

Most people know how to swim. People who die in floods fall victims to rapidly moving water, rampaging rivers, storm surges, tidal waves, broken dams, or are dragged under by rapidly moving currents. The pictures of New Orleans showed that a great number of the city streets were covered by water. But they also showed that the water in most places was not over people’s heads and where it was more than five or six feet deep, it was calm enough for people to swim. People managed to climb onto roofs, hold onto things, climb into boats, or could swim well enough to simply keep their head above water until help arrived.

The media assumption that all the victims were poor and black was based on the fact that the vast majority of people in the Superdome and the convention center were black. There have been over 1,000,000 people at least temporarily displaced to shelters and homes all over the country. Who they are, how wealthy they are and how many of them are black is not at clear. Nor is it clear who have lost the most and who are in the most difficult situations.

The most catastrophic loss of life occurred in places in the direct path of the hurricane, primarily along the Mississippi and Louisiana coasts, realtively ignored by the mass media. There have been no statistics given for the racial identity of the known dead from the storm but there is plenty of reason to believe that a substantial proportion of them were white. Far from being forgotten, the black victims of the storm dominated the coverage. Playing out the usual script of America as a racist society that ignores the poor and the black, the media coverage was heavily focused on the plight of the evacuees at the Superdome and the Convention Center who were mostly black, while paying considerably less attention to the outlying regions where most of the tragedy occurred but the victims were more economically and racially mixed, with a majority in most locales white.

Furthermore, to make the case of administration incompetence and indifference to black people, the media emphasized lack of security at the Superdome, showing the same videos of young black males looting stores and reporting every unsubstantiated rumor of criminality they could find. The picture presented was one of chaos and anarchy. But in spite of little food or water and in spite of frightful heat, humidity and a complete lack of sanitation they survived. They had to have shared what little food and water they had, they had to have kept up each others spirits, they had to have shown great courage throughout the ordeal, and in the end the media presented them as victims when they deserved to be portrayed as heroes.

There will be “Katrina Commissions”, and in depth newspaper articles and TV news programs about the aftermath of the storm. They will all be filled with what went wrong and recommendations for how to do it better next time. But you can't plan for every contingency in a natural disaster. Things will happen that can’t be predicted and we will have to rely on the courage and ingenuity of the people who are caught in it. The story of this storm is that in spite of the potential for catastrophic disaster, almost everyone survived.

In a matter of hours, nearly an entire city was destroyed and its infrastructure rendered useless. 80% of its streets were underwater, and the city was left with absolutely no communications, water, electricity, commerce and almost no public authority. Yet within a week, over a million people were safely evacuated to places of shelter with almost no loss of life. This is a very positive story about human resilience under unbelievably difficult conditions. Of course, each of the hundreds of lives lost is a terrible loss. But given the magnitude of the hurricane, we have come out very well indeed. Possible criminal negligence in a nursing home is exceptional, and will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

While the talking heads and newspaper pundits were focusing on a fairy tale about tens of thousands of deaths due to the Bush administration’s indifference and incompetence they were missing the real story of Coast Guard pilots, doctors, nurses, and ordinary citizens whose round the clock heroism saved the lives of almost everyone who hadn’t perished in the original storm. Why did we see so little of that on the news?


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kenmeer livermaile
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I very much am of the camp that would like to see something...get...Bush... and so very much relished the knocks received by the Bush team regarding katrina.

After making a week's worth of horrid PR blunders, the Bush team learned to shut up and (visibly) do things, a opposed to the week before, when what they were doing right was largely invisible while what they were saying wrong was...ooh, 'twas bad.

Now they've reopened their mouths and are visibly doing things.

Meanwhile, the left team predictably shot many of their...get...Bush...arrows too soon and too high, and found out that they'd overshot Bush and hit a Democratic governor and mayor instead.

Moral of Story: No matter how huge the disaster, there's always room left for fiasco.

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Agreed Ken...and that wasn't even bewildering! [Wink]
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kenmeer livermaile
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I'm tired. Been bed-sitting in the hospital and eating lousy cafeteria food. Besides, you're losing your mind or at least that thing that sits between your ears, and so I make sense anymore.

What's worse, your obligatory left-wing bias fusillades are no longer reactionary or paranoid but generally accurately depictive of those aspects of the media.

I think it's time we BOTH gave up the charade, pulled the zippers between our shoulder blades, stepped out of our human suits, and revealed ourselves for the aliens from Mongo Bongo that we really are.

You set up the limbo rack and I'll dig the barbecue pit for the slow roast suckling pig, OK?

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As long as we FIRST take the proper steps and observe the correct protocol for demonstrating our obeisance and subservience to Bob, the $2.99 plastic frog from WalMart....
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Now, dangit, I was hoping for sectarian violence! No being nice to one another!

No one lets me have any fun.

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Hey, Bob was purchased from a street vendor in Tiajuana. For 4.50, I got Bob AND six M-80s. I told you, I support small business.
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Daruma28
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I guess my bob was a cheap imitation made in Taiwan and much cheaper because WalMart was able to dictate to the Taiwanese manufacturer the price for which they had to sell Bob for......
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The more important issue is that you did not come to know Bob while trying to determine whether the mob of children surrounding you were trying to pick your pockets or sell you chicklettes.

Or, well, I guess it depends on the Wal-Mart.

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Kind of off the subject, but has anyone else seen this Larry King interview with Celine Dion?

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Celine-crys-Katrina.wmv

I just saw it tonight and googled it afterward...I know I shouldn't be laughing at this, but my roommates and I were laughing so hard at tears were coming down our eyes.

[ September 17, 2005, 09:19 PM: Message edited by: FIJC ]

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kenmeer livermaile
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"Bob, the $2.99 plastic frog from WalMart...."

Doesn't quitematch up with Bob, the eminent senator form Connecticut, does it?

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Um the reporting has been horrible. Knee Jerk liberal CNN reaction "look at all the black people suffering RACISM RACISM RACISM!"
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You're right Lewkowski, when CNN realized that most of the people still in the city of New Orleans, 'specially those up to their necks, were black, they had a duty to stop filming.
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"when CNN realized that most of the people still in the city of New Orleans, 'specially those up to their necks, were black, they had a duty to stop filming."

CNN = See No Niggars.

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