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Kosmic_Fool
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/09/14/germany.catfuel.reut/index.html

Aside from the fun image this article creates, there's an interesting question here.

Just how far should we go to solve our oil crisis, and to what lengths will we go?

[ September 14, 2005, 08:46 PM: Message edited by: Kosmic_Fool ]

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quote:
Just how far should we go to solve our oil crisis, and to what lengths will we go?
If it works with cats, I am sure it works with homeless people too.

Hey, you asked what lengths. [Wink]

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quote:
"You have a car. You dropped my cat. You have a car."

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I like cats, I've got 6 of them (long story).

But millions of cats are put to death every year, in large part because of selfish scumbags who don't sterilize their pets.

If they're going to die anyway, why not make use out of them?

On the other hand, if we actually had a use for them, it wouldn't do much to encourage sterilization, would it? Why work hard to keep the cats from breeding, if it makes your gas prices go up?

On the other hand, it's not like we seem to be making much headway reducing pet overpopulation anyway.

But I'd rather not encourage kitty deaths.

So, if cats can be used for fuel, they should *only* be used to offset fuel costs for humane societies.

Just like cigarette taxes should *only* go to anti-smoking programs and health care for smoking-related diseases, not into the general treasury.

When you get a benefit from something bad, you have to make sure the benefit only goes to eliminating the bad thing, otherwise you have no motive to eliminate the bad thing. Whereas when you close off negative and positive results in a feedback loop, you can perhaps eventually eliminate the bad thing altogether, and the fact that the income from it dried up won't matter.

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That was some of my thought, in that, taken to its logical conclusion, using dead cats for fuel seems like it would create a situation where cats would be bred simply for use in fuel: cat farms. [Smile]

I would like to know exactly what aspects of dead cats make them so good for fuel.

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My beagles like the idea. My cats however are viewing my command that they "Go play in the street more." with renewed suspicion.
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Redskullvw said:
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My beagles like the idea. My cats however are viewing my command that they "Go play in the street more." with renewed suspicion.
Cats view all commands with suspicion - that's not much of an indicator [Smile]

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If we came up with "roadkill" fuel we'd have a closed system.
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We will never breed cats for fuel because it's definitely a net energy loss.

We ought to mandate the collection of all carbon waste products for TDP uses. No one should get paid for it except the workers.

Of course, where the use and storage of energy is concerned, 'should' & 'ought' are pretty far from the American mind.

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JohnLocke -

I disagree. If the administration (either the Bush Administration or the one that takes it's place) makes it a priority and a patriotic duty, carbon product recycling could happen.

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Of course, where the use and storage of energy are is concerned, 'If' and 'could' pretty much ARE the American mind.
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This German is claiming he just invented thermodepolymerization. Hilarious.

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I wonder if this cat story has made more people angry than, say, the situation in the Sudan has? Talk about doing something to pets, the whole world goes crazy.

Hey, how many people here who believe in Heaven think that their dogs and cats will be with them there? Because I think a lot of Christian denominations hold that only humans have souls...

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Mormegil
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My pets who are no more, who I dearly loved, will not be with me in heaven (assuming I make it there). While I loved them, and anthropomorphized them, they were animals and did not have souls.
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quote:
This German is claiming he just invented thermodepolymerization. Hilarious.

Not neccessarily. The current issue of Make magazine shows you how to brew your own biodiesel...sort of the same result, though.
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Mormegil, why would you "assume" your admission into heaven as if you couldn't substantiate that eventuality while at the same time be completely sure of the fact that animals are not going to be there when/if you arrive?

And even if you're correct that there are indeed souls and that animals don't have them, would that not make their deaths all the more tragic?

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I'm not sure I understand your first question.

As for the second question I don't know that I'd call it tragic. It is what it is. We enjoy our animal companions while they are here, and remember them when they are gone. They don't live forever, but neither do any of them end up in hell.

There are times I longed for true oblivion myself, but I will never have it. Which is more tragic?

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Oh please can this thread degenerate into another theological debate.
Pretty pretty please...

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