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JoshuaD
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Title says it all. What do you guys think?
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Yes.
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Richard Dey
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My time is about up, unfortunately [Frown] .
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javelin
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Yes, to some extent. As a matter of fact, it's even BEEN legal, but I assume you mean "not overturned by the Supreme Court".
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No, I don't. I think the country will swerve rightward until it collapses.
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Lisa M.
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Frankly, I have no clue.
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Tezcatlipoca
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quote:
I think the country will swerve rightward until it collapses.
In God We Trust. [Wink]
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RickyB
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Within the next 15 years, I think.
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No, I don't. I think the country will swerve rightward until it collapses.
Certainly looks like that from across the pond, so,

no

(unless it's used as an Orwell- type sedative for the masses [Eek!] )

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Clearly some think it's already been legalised;

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view2/1,4382,635180743,00.html

[Big Grin]

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A. Alzabo
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It's already legal in my city... sort of.
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Daruma28
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Nope.

Unfortunate as that is, legalizing marijuana is like trying to get the Government to stop spending tax money frivolously...it's not going to happen.

There is way too much money in the law enforcement industry spent on operations. There are DEA agents who make a living flying all over suburbs and countrysides using the latest infrared equipment in helicopters looking for heat signatures of glow lights and/or budding plants -- that has GOT to be probably the cushiest job in law enforcement.

Various States may pass varying degrees of legality, but the Feds are never going to give up the cash cow of prohibition.

Afterall, we're talking about a Federal Governemnt that threatens to arrest, indict and take away the Medical Practice license of Doctors that prescribe marijuana to cancer patients in States that legalized medical marijuana. Yet the very same cancer patients can get legal, DEA approved prescriptions for narcotics like morphine and oxycontin. That's about as blatant as it gets when it comes to examining the innate hypocrisy and madness of the Federal Government's addiction to the unreasonable prohibition of marijuana.

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javelin
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Wow, sounds like you consider the government to be completely outside of the citizens of this country's influence.

It's just as profitable in Oregon (well, was), but we managed to legalize it here. So has other states.

[ February 03, 2006, 12:49 PM: Message edited by: javelin ]

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I certainly hope so. In general, I lean towards wanting to see the WoD (War on Drugs) go the way of Prohibition -- gone.
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Daruma28
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quote:
Originally posted by javelin:
Wow, sounds like you consider the government to be completely outside of the citizens of this country's influence.

It's just as profitable in Oregon (well, was), but we managed to legalize it here. So has other states.

Nah, there's just too much of a vested interest in the continuation of prohibition - large segments of government, law enforcement, as well as other influential lobbyists like the pharmaceutical industry (there's no profit for pain relief/nausea relief from a plant anybody can grow anywhere) will ensure the continued Federal prohibition.

Yes, Oregon has by and large decriminalized it...but as I said before, the DEA has threatened to jail and decertify any Doctors that prescribe medical marijuana in Oregon, California, Arizona, Alaska and Hawaii - which I believe are all the states where Medical Marijuana is supposedly legal.

It's similar to how concealed carry of firearms is technically legal here in Hawaii, but it is de facto illegal as acquiring the permit requires the Chief of Police's signature, and all of the CoP's for the past 30 years simply refuse to sign any CCW permits for citizens, period.

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I don't understand why the federal government is being considered as another type of beast then the state governments, in this case.
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Daruma28
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Because the Federal Government is basically ignoring States rights here and claiming Federal supremacy in the making of laws regarding Marijuana - and other drugs for that matter.
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quote:
Originally posted by Daruma28:
Because the Federal Government is basically ignoring States rights here and claiming Federal supremacy in the making of laws regarding Marijuana - and other drugs for that matter.

Yes, right now they are. But if we vote, as a group, to change the law, do you think that won't happen? I mean, it did in Oregon, why not federally?
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No.

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Won't happen, jav. The American electorate has been effectively neutered.
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Won't happen, jav. The American electorate has been effectively neutered.
Maybe we can change tack and try to get it classified as an "herbal supplement". Pretty much anything goes there.
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Yes, but perhaps not at the national level. This is the sort of thing the Court can never make its mind up about, besides which, Mr Bush can't be President much longer (thank God for term limits.) Mr McCain has already been appointed President by the press (but then they appointed Mr Dean before they decided on Mr Bush and Mr Kerry, ultimately favoring Mr Bush,) and, in keeping with his position of Presidential candidate, he is not being very clear. Judging by his almost absurdly laudatory statement concerning John Walters, I would guess that he wants to appear "tough on drugs," a stance which wins votes from the masses , if not respect from the élite.

http://mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=Newscenter.ViewPressRelease&Content_id=684

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I have to agree with those who say no. Way too much money involved for them to do the right thing.
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When way too much money was involved, way back when they were passng substance laws, it went in favor of the big-money industries like tobacco and alcohol. What marijuana needs is a lobby supported by those who traffic, distribute and consume it.

... and we libertarian types who aren't toking can cheerlead from the sidelines.

[ February 06, 2006, 10:57 AM: Message edited by: WarrsawPact ]

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