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Ivan
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quote:
Originally posted by Koner:
Didn't Al Gore invent the internet?

No, but he was instrumental in getting the funding that helped create it. He really was ahead of the curve when it came to funding new technological infrastructure. Like the Internet, for example.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ivan:
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Originally posted by Koner:
Didn't Al Gore invent the internet?

No, but he was instrumental in getting the funding that helped create it. He really was ahead of the curve when it came to funding new technological infrastructure. Like the Internet, for example.
That's a weird way to look at what Gore actually did. The Internet was already in place and funded by public and private universities by the time Gore became involved. The extent of his involvement was basically allowing businesses a ".com" domain, and to start hooking into the network, officially.

While the funding from this, and the public exposure, most certainly was instrumental in creating the Internet we know of today, it's quite the stretch to say that Gore was instrumental, etc. I've got nothing against Gore on this, but come on - calling Gore instrumental is like saying "That senator who got the tax breaks/money for the energy companies from the federal energy budget was instrumental in the fuel cell cars that were later developed in 2012.", and, to paraphrase the incorrect quote, "Senator So-And-So invented fuel cell cars."

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Carter does not pull his punches about Gore's activism, "The man is an embarrassment to US science and its many fine practitioners, a lot of whom know (but feel unable to state publicly) that his propaganda crusade is mostly based on junk science."
Wow. They're using CREATIONIST arguments now. [Smile]
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quote:
Originally posted by Haggis:
Thank you for confirming that your expectations are at least a couple of standard deviations from the norm. I will keep this in mind for future threads.

Not sure what you would define as the "norm"? But would be interested in learning.
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Basically, you could use this form for an argument:

X is V Y for political expediency, therefore, X is doing a disservice to Y and the people that support Y, QED.

where:
X = any politician
V = any verb (advocating, legislating, voting, etc.)
Y = any issue

You fail to realize that the separation of powers in the American system forces compromises in order for legislation to get passed. It seems you overestimate the power of the office Vice Presidency vis a vis the Congress and you fail to realize that change in the political system is usually incremental. You also do not seem to understand that advocacy of an issue is the first step under which actions begin to be taken. People have to know about an issue before they start to care about it, and they have to care about it before they take action. You seem to judge politicians on some sort of Platonic scale, almost as if they operate ensconced in a vacuum without any outside forces exerting power or influence on any set of given outcomes. And you have freely admitted that you are hitherto ignorant of any politician that can meet your exacting standards. In other words, your expectations of politicians have yet to coincide with any semblance of reality. I consider that a couple of standard deviations from the norm because one definition of insanity is: doing the same thing the same way over and over again and expecting different results.

[ June 14, 2006, 02:42 PM: Message edited by: Haggis ]

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