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winkey151
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It is OK for Muslims to sound off their loud call to prayer at the Temple Mount... but it is not OK for a 20 year old Jewish boy to blow the shofar on the same spot on Rosh HaShannah? What is wrong with this picture?
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Yesterday morning (Sunday), a group of some 10 men and two women gathered at the site, as they have done for several years on Rosh HaShanah, for early-morning prayers. The holiday prayers feature the blowing of the shofar (ram's horn) at several different times. Towards the end of the first shofar sounding, a Border Guard policeman came in, made an unclear motion with his hand as if to ask what was going on, and then left. He said nothing.

Shortly afterwards, Eliyahu K., the 20-year-old prayer leader, blew the shofar a second time, in the midst of his silent prayer (in accordance with Sephardic custom). Policemen came in once again and began trying to pull him away. However, Eliyahu was in the midst of reciting the Amidah - a long passage during which one must stand in one place without moving - and he therefore did not move.

The policemen informed their supervisors by radio that he was praying and refused to move, and reinforcements were soon sent - no fewer than 20 policemen, according to several witnesses.

They then started dragging him out, and when they stopped for a moment, he got up and resumed his prayers. They then began to drag him away again, and shortly afterwards again stopped for a moment - and again he resumed his prayers. At this point, the policemen allowed him to complete his prayers.

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At this point, the policemen allowed him to complete his prayers.
That's astonishingly reasonable of them. Two weeks ago, he might well have been shot.
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INN has credibility issues. I haven't heard of any of this. Unless of course the guy wasn't at the wall but up on the mountain, which is Muslim territory, in which case it makes perfect sense not to allow it.

In a perfect world, it would be different. In the one we're living in, a Jew sounding the horn from temple mount territory designated as Muslim is committing a serious provocation. It works the other way around, too - if a Muslim were to sound the call to prayer from in front of the wall (or kneel to pray there) he'd get his ass kicked.

Ah, religion, what a wonderful thing.

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kenmeer livermaile
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A compromise was reached. I t was decided he could only blow shofar sholong.
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But what did he have to show for it?
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RickyB
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Um, no blowing schlongs in Judaism. It is an abomination. [Big Grin]
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Just goes to show, you should never blow your own horn in the Middle East. You're bound to offend someone. [Wink]
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Maybe if he had brought someone to blow his horn for him, she could explain what was going on to the police.
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kenmeer livermaile
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Saith the cop: "Ma'am, how could you shtup so low?"
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quote:
Originally posted by RickyB:
INN has credibility issues. I haven't heard of any of this. Unless of course the guy wasn't at the wall but up on the mountain, which is Muslim territory, in which case it makes perfect sense not to allow it.

In a perfect world, it would be different. In the one we're living in, a Jew sounding the horn from temple mount territory designated as Muslim is committing a serious provocation. It works the other way around, too - if a Muslim were to sound the call to prayer from in front of the wall (or kneel to pray there) he'd get his ass kicked.

Ah, religion, what a wonderful thing.

Don't be so smug. A few years back, a whole church full of kids got shot up in Texas by an atheist who was pissed that they'd prayed in front of a school.
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kenmeer livermaile
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Atheism, the shadow religion.
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You got a link, Pete? Nevah hoid of it.
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I think this is the Larry Ashbrook shooting in a Baptist Church. As far as I know, there was no proven link between his shooting them and their praying at a school. Besides, he was allegedly a paranoid schizophrenic, so he can't be called a representative of any -ism or cause.
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kenmeer livermaile
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My best friend in town is a paranoid schizophrenic with delusions of messianic grandeur. He committed manslaughter many years ago and was acquitted on grounds of insanity.

He was driving very very fast through red light after red light in proof that God was with him. Someone got in the way.

An atheist paranoid schizophrenic with delusions of existential meaningless would do the same thing to prove that God was NOT with him.

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