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LoverOfJoy
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Okay, you two. Before this gets dirty take it off the other threads, please. It seems like very little things are simmering mighty hot between you two right now. For the sake of Ornery, chill before this blows up.
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Fair enough. I'm done.
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You shouldn't be. You still owe me a response to an email from about 12 days ago.

You also need to recognize that you were asserting I was making an argument I explicitly said I wasn't multiple times.

You also need to understand that you broke the rules, since you are the enforcer of those rules, and I don't think you do

[ October 09, 2006, 12:47 PM: Message edited by: Everard ]

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Jav's the enforcer of the rules? When did we learn that?

I'm glad to see this wasn't all about my little
"freedom" comment. I was confused for a sec there.

KE

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KE

Pay attention to the trivial details.

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Sorry, grandma dying, work, kids (Little John's got his first serious girlfriend), war with North Korea, Iraq, I'm dealing with a lot of **** here.

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Yes. I'm sorry to hear about your Grandma, John! I can offer nothing but my udnerstanding. I lost my grandmother a few years ago.

War with N. Korea seems likely at this point. Well. I suspect we'll probably have a draft. Even I might go, though I doubt they'd take me (too overweight... eesh. Damn you, cookies! I'm also wearing entirely blue today, so I look kinda like the Cookie Monster... ugh.)

OH! At firrst I thought this said the "Everard and Pete" show. I only just now realized that it says something different. Wow, looks like my subconscious made an assumption. lol, I feel like a dunce now...

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Um, remind me when was the last time a nuclear power underwent regime change by force?

What has the Gipper taught you people? You don't need to make war on communism to bring it down.

So they have nukes. What they gonna do? Threaten to nuke Seoul? Tokyo? What exactly can they do with this bomb? Actually, what the Gipper would have done is goad NK into spending their last pennies on nukes in order to hasten the economic collapse (and I'm not totally sure that's not what's happening, although that would be an unprecedented feat of subtlety for this administration).

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Well, since they have no money, they might be tempted to sell it to someone who is not afraid to use it.
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LoverOfJoy
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That's what I'm probably most afraid of.

The only way someone can expect to nuke us and not get killed for it is if it could somehow be anonymous. Is it possible for a terrorist to buy a North Korean nuke and shoot it at the US from the ocean? If not from a ship, how about some small deserted island? How about a submarine?

If we get nuked from some odd coordinate in the Pacific Ocean, what are we going to do to retaliate? Who would we get? Heck, forget someone buying it from North Korea. What if North Korea PAYED some "terrorist" to do it? How would we ever know?

MAD only works when there's no hiding the fact that you sent the first missile. If it's at all possible to hide that fact, how can the destruction be mutually assured unless we destroy the whole planet?

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why do you think Bush is trying to get to Mars?
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LOJ,

I vaguely recall that plutonium and other nuclear material has a signature based on the reactor it was refined in or where it was mined (can't recall which). So if NK sold a nuke and it was used it would be traced back to them.

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LoverOfJoy
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I think I've heard that, too LetterRip. But do we actually know the signatures of the North Korean and Iranian reactors? What if the signature came up as "unknown"? Would we assume it was an undisclosed N.K. reactor or Iranian or some other country that's kept it under wraps?
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kenmeer livermaile
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"why do you think Bush is trying to get to Mars?"

i thought it was to make x-sure saddam didn' hide WMDs there?

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