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Pete at Home
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Flax seed oil his high in the omegas, and whenever possible I like to get my nutrients as close to the natural source as feasible.

Trouble is that Flax seed oil has a strong and (to me) unpleasant taste, and like most healthy oils, becomes very unhealthy when you cook with it.

A few years ago I bought a big bag of flax seeds, but could not figure out what to do with them, other than chew them. Can't cook them either without turning the nutritious oils into something unhealthy.

I finally stumbled on to how to eat these things, and my wife, who for 4 years has regarded my flax experiments justifiably amused disdain, helped me to devour this one. Mission accomplished.

Here's the recipe:
Grind up the flax-seeds in the blender to create a coarse flour. Mix a little maple syrup in with the flax flour, until the flour is all brought into a thick dough. Pour milk over it, and eat with a spoon.

It looks ghastly, but we really enjoyed the flavor, and I need those omegas. Now I need to go get more flax seeds.

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Thanks for the tip. I don't know if I've eaten flax seeds but it's great to find out new ways to eat unpleasant foods.
Question: I know that a lot of oils are unhealthy to cook with, but what exactly makes them unhealthy during the cooking process?

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As I understand, the problem is that they become partially hydrogenated. I've been told that ghi (clarified butter) is the safest to fry with, because it's fully hydrogenated.
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I've put a couple tablespoons of ground flax seed in waffle batter before, and the waffles tasted fine. But I also put brown sugar, vanilla, and a tiny bit of cinnamon in my waffle batter, which might have helped... [Smile]

[ March 16, 2007, 10:11 PM: Message edited by: pickled shuttlecock ]

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OhPuhLeez
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I can't believe this will be my first post in forever (kids'll do that to ya!) but I'm big on flax seed oil.

My nutritionist recommended putting it in a smoothy - I tried that once and it pretty much tasted like a fish smoothy.

UGH!!

However, I now make omelettes for breakfast - eggs, greens and salmon (the canned variety works great). After cooking, I put about two or three tablespoons of high-lignan flax seed oil over the top of it, and I don't taste it at all due to the salmon.

I've also put it on salads along with olive oil and vinegar, as long as there is some kind of fish - tuna, salmon, etc - with it.

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Funean
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Yep. Salmon croquettes work too.

(waves wildly at OPL--how ya bin?!)

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I actually enjoy fresh flax oil by itself sometimes. IS there a fishy taste?
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Fishy to me - not sure why that is - maybe the source? Or just my odd taste buds?

(Back at ya, Funean!! Running after two 19 month olds and trying to keep up with them - no wonder I need so much flax seed oil [Smile] !!!)

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It's not so much fishy to me as just strong, but seems not to be able to compete with certain other strong flavors, "fish" being one of them.

(OPL--the secret is coffee and vitamins. Seriously. [Big Grin] And they're 19 months already?! Dang!)

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I didn't know you had twins, OPL. Welcome to the club!
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Thx! Yes, Molly and Sam joined the family back in August '05, right around when I dropped off the face of the planet around here...

Funny how kids do that to a person, huh [Smile] ?

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Fish oil is supposed to be really be good for you but it gives you bad breath and you end up burping it up for the rest of the day. The other day a guy told me that if you freeze the pill and then swallow them this doesn't happen. Worth a try.

KE

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Or you could just take them at night, before you go to bed. Also, some brands make de-odorized fish oil that has no aftertaste. They are more expensive, but if the smell/aftertaste bothers you, worth looking into.

Flax oil doesn't really taste fishy, but it does have a strong, almost grassy taste to it. I did not enjoy it, but eaten on salad with balsamic vinegar I can't really taste it.

I quit eating flax when I heard it has a plant hormone similar to estrogen. I guess maybe that wouldn't be a problem for you guys taking it, but apparently in some women it can really mess things up. Anybody heard this?

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Wow, no, never did - gotta look into that one.

I needed to take lots of omegas when I was knocked up, but they didn't want me having it from a fish source because of the possibly mercury issues, so they had me take flax instead - still tasted "fishy" to me, tho [Smile] .

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Pete at Home
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"I've put a couple tablespoons of ground flax seed in waffle batter before, and the waffles tasted fine."

The problem there is that as I understand, the heat partially hydrogenates the flax oil, destroys the healthy stuff, and may actually render it quite unhealthy. I could be misinformed, but AFAIK you want to avoid heating the stuff.

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I don't know. But I do know that Kashi has a tasty little bar that has flax seed in it, and I like it.
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I've heard that flax seed oil has elevated estrogen levels somewhat like soy. And I'm an estrogenaphobe. I don't even drink wheat beer because I was told by a guy would worked at a brewery that he knew gay men drank unfiltered wheat beer to amplify their otherwise non-existent "endowments".

Fish oil for me any day.

In fact I heard this from the same source as Carlotta.

To not mince words, I don't want to wake up one day and have to purchase a bro for my saggy man breasts if I can somehow help it.

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Pete at Home
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Can anyone source this rumor about flax and estrogen?
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Cooking with flax:

http://www.bioriginal.com/efa_faq.html

quote:
Can I bake with flax seeds?
Yes! Unlike flax oil, milled flax seeds can be used in baking cookies, loafs, and casseroles. The flax seeds have a protective outer coating that will prevent the oil from turning rancid. Flax seeds make great additions to all your favorite recipes.

Can I cook with flax oil?
No! This is because flax oil contains omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids which are highly unstable at high temperatures. Cooking with flax oil will cause the oil to turn rancid, and produce potentially harmful trans fatty acids. Flax oil can be added to the diet in many different ways including salad dressings, blender drinks, yogurt and cooked cereal.

This squares with pretty much everything I found from a quick Google of "cook flax seed".
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Estrogens in flax:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogen

Googling a bit more, I'm finding that it's not known whether phytoestrogens in general have the same effects as estrogens in humans (contrary to the Wikipedia article) - more specifically, whether they bind to estrogen receptors and then act like estrogens, or bind and do nothing, blocking real estrogens. It may depend on the specific phytoestrogen. More here:

http://www.naturalfoodsmerchandiser.com/ASP/articleDisplay.asp?strArticleId=1125&strSite=NFMSite

In any case, I seriously doubt you'd get a case of the man-boobs by ingesting flax, or we'd have heard quite a bit about it by now. It probably would have been discovered during trials where they found that it helps inhibit prostate cancer, if not by the thousands of men whose wives make them eat it. [Smile]

[ March 18, 2007, 05:16 AM: Message edited by: pickled shuttlecock ]

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Pete at Home
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Damnation. More estrogen than soy, which was another great favorite of mine for health and stuff [Frown] I've started to gain some weight in the last year and want to take it off; estrogens probably won't help that a whole lot.

Thank you, PS!

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It's so disapointing to realize that whatever you eat will still eventually kill you. [Razz]
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Flaxseed and Flaxseed oil are also anticoagulants. Be careful of "herbal" drug interactions from flax if you're taking medicines for blood conditions such as hemophilia, thrombophilia, etc.
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There have been some studies showing that Flax seed has some bad properties to it along with the good omega 3's. You can google it if you're interested. I've also seen info that the omega 3 in flax are not long chain aminos that we can readably absorb, so much of it is wasted.

Fish oil is long chain and fully absorbable. If you're getting fish breath, you are taking an inferior product. Heavy metals are a concern, but the best fish oil is filtered and purified.

I like Dr Dave's Best, but his stuff is expensive. I think GNC's fish oil is filtered and purified - check the label - and I didn't have any fish breath problems with it.

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