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Daruma28
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You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe.

You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.

Remember -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more.

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BobDylanThomas
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That would be much more frightening if Alex Jones hadn't made and narrated it.

He should tone down some of the more outrageous hyperbole so he doesn't lose credibility when talking about the really frightening things like the Federal Reserve. And out and out lying through cutting and splicing video together works better when you didn't just show the whole clip ten minutes before. He claims that Bernake "refuses" to tell them who he gave the money to and cuts to a senator asking him who got the money, or rather "Can you tell us who those banks were?" and Bernake says; "No..." Fast cut away to make it look like Bernake just arrogantly said "No. I refuse to answer that question Senator and you can't make me!" But what Bernake said AFTER he said "No" was "No, I can't remember. That might trick the mentally challenged or those that "want" to believe what he is telling them, but it kills his credibility with any objective observer. Which is stupid because Bernake comes off bad enough 'without' the trick splicing.

I am an excellent poker player and I can tell you with a great deal of confidence that that Bernake guy was lying and guilty as hell. I'm not sure what he really did with that money but he definitely did something with it that he didn't want them to find out. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. If you can point out one true negative thing about Obama it is that he has done a poor job selecting people to fill positions in his administration.

What exactly is the deal with the 'signing statements'? I got the impression that that part was slight of hand as well? Surely Obama didn't use a signing statement to do exactly what he swore he wouldn't do during his campaign? I haven't even heard the propaganda wing of the GOP talking about that. And they would if it were true.

And the Omen music in the background was kinda over the top.

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Just finished the last of Part I. The environmental part was really well done. But I'm biased because I've never thought the cap and trade scheme sounded good.
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What's up? Is it the weekend or is the video too long?

Even if you disagree with Daruma you should check it out. It is very entertaining.

If nothing else if y'all skipped to the end and watched the part on Al Gore and the environment you'll be very entertained and we could have another knock down drag out on Global Warming. [Smile]

I'll watch it again and post the time to skip to on the video. And if that doesn't work I'll get one of those programs that trace IP addresses, call you on the phone and read it to you. [Smile]

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We're terribly, terribly lazy here Bob. Aliens could be making first contact and we'd probably still skip it if it involves waiting for a youtube clip to load.
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I liked when Alex Jones called Al gore the greatest con artist in modern history because he convinced everyone that he "invented" in the internet.
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Pete at Home
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Oh come on. If George Bush had said that he took initiative in inventing the internet, y'all would have at least as much fun with it. Be honest. [Big Grin] Seriously, even in context that's funnier than "Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream"
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BobDylanThomas
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I think the Al Gore invented the Internet thing is hilarious, but it seems like all these kinds of 'documentaries' whether it be Alex Jones or Michael Moore have these blatant lies in them presented as 'facts' that force anyone with intellectual integrity to question the whole thing. If they'll lie about one thing how can you trust the rest is true? How do they not get that?

Yeah, Rallan, I know. I've already started making calls. Apparently a lot of Orneryites are out for Halloween. Guess I'll start again tomorrow. [Smile]

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"Oh come on. If George Bush had said that he took initiative in inventing the internet, y'all would have at least as much fun with it. Be honest."

I don't mind them making fun of him, but Jones used it like it was a fact instead of a huge distortion. Kind of hurts the documentary when you back your huge distortions up with huge distortions [Wink]

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Come to think of it, someone should sell some fancy plaque with "Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream" for folks to hang over the hearth. Would be funny.
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Oh dear. I said that, and now my wife's embroidering it. [Big Grin]
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I watched most of the movie. Pretty interesting. I can never take anything in documentaries seriously. The spooky sounding voice and sinister music don't help
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That video is painful to watch. I honestly couldn't watch more than a few minutes of the constant scene jumps and bad music.
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I watched the first twelve minutes, skipped forward 30 minutes hoping to get to more substance, then watched it in 10 minutes clips so I wouldn't get too frustrated
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Can't watch YouTube at work, so can't comment. [Frown]
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Daruma28
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Don't miss the forest for the trees here...so what if Alex Jones snidely commented on Al Gore inventing the internet?

That does not take away from the expose of the fradulent central banking system and the whole "climate change" charade is nothing more than a front to implement a one-world global government.

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The first 45 min are probably the best - just the straight poop on how crooked the entire financial and political game is. I got tired of it after that, so skipped around and didn't watch much else.

One of the guys had an interesting point about the mechanisms used to control finance, and thereby governments, has been building up and in place for hundreds of years. Hell, the Federal reserve act is almost 100 years old. 1913, 1917 - something like that.

Bernanke is a prick, but he has a totally valid point. When asked who gives him the authority to just crank out money and give it away, he replies very blandly that "congress did with the Federal reserve act". Those Congress folks know that, and if they don't they are damn fools. What was going on there was a lot of grandstanding - ie all fluff and no substance, all bark and absolutely no bite. If congress were seriously pissed, they could take the necessary steps.

Of course, we can look back to Andrew Jackson's feud with the old (IIRC) 2nd Bank of the US back in the early 1800's. The blow back from that nearly crippled the economy. Anyone care to wager what the Fed would do to utterly destroy the system if they were threatened with being cut off?

Queue the greatest depression ever. "See, we told you we had to remain in control or the system would fail."

At this point reform is just more smoke and mirrors; we need something truely revolutionary to back down off this track we're on. I certainly do not mean guns and bombs, or insurection in any sense of that word.

A revolution of the mind and spirit; in short, nothing ever seen before in our recorded history.

Historical precedence is strongly against us. Nevertheless, there's always hope.

Got an email today from the Orion Project. I think it's applicable to this discussion.
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HOPE

A few months ago, I had a very lucid dream early one morning before rising.

A thought- recurring and insistent- entered my mind, gently saying:

"Let us hope, so that we may live..."

As this thought recurred, a number of lucid images appeared:

First, I found myself in Africa, in a rural and desolate place, clearly impoverished and lacking any means of sustenance. A child, perhaps 10 years of age, was wandering through this bleak and forbidding landscape, starving, and cradling a younger dying child in his arms. And the voice was saying: Let us hope, so that we may live... I wept as I saw that this and this alone- the spark of hope within the soul of this child- propelled him forward to live. Amid the suffering and against all odds, only the driving force of hope sustained him.

Then I saw my own childhood- desperate at times and lonely, not knowing how I would survive and not knowing how to go forward. And this thought was repeating: Let us hope, so that we may live....

And so I saw at times that this was literally all that I possessed: The spark of hope,
somewhere in the crevices of my soul, keeping me going- even to today. Hope.

Next I saw all who dwell on earth now, at this time of great change, challenge and
difficulty, and this singular thought was repeating: Let us hope, so that we may live... And I saw that this was the indispensible quality to which we all must hold: Hope, which will carry us forward together to the fulfillment of the promise of humanity.

While we may not live on hope alone, surely we cannot live without it. So throughout the coming days of trials, changes and the transformation of life on Earth, we can turn within and hear, and never forget: Let us hope, so that we may live....

Steven M. Greer MD
29 October 2009

Well said.

[ November 02, 2009, 05:03 PM: Message edited by: Colin JM0397 ]

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