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Gaoics79
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Alvin Greene wins Democratic primary

Well alright I'm scratching my head on this one. Who is this guy? I listened to an interview of him yesterday and he sounded like he was on drugs or had a mental impairment. The interviewer basically asked him if he was high.

The Democrats aren't pulling their punches either. They're practically accusing him of being a Republican plant.

Except, why would the Republicans even bother? Did the Democrats have a chance of winning in South Carolina in the first place? Why pull the Manchurian candidate conspiracy thing to win a seat that you were already guaranteed to win anyway? [Confused]

As for the Democrats, they seem to be going after this guy no holds barred. They're practically acusing him of being a felon, even though from what I hear, this "felony" is merely an accusation about some sexual harrassment or whatnot. Something about this guy approaching a University of Arizona student in a computer lab and asking to come up to her room, prior to showing her pornography on his computer screen. There's been no indictment, and while extremely weird and creepy, it's not really anything to speak of at this point.

I don't know. This guy seems like some kind of oaf to me, but as far as we know, he was legitimately elected. The Democrats are going to look awfully foolish if they try to run this guy out of town but can't produce a shred of evidence that his election was illegitimate...

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My personal theory is that Greene got the cash from his father, and is just your garden variety nutjob. There have been plants before, but I don't see what the Republicans gain by this one -- unless they're deliberately setting up a narrative of "black people will vote for their own, no matter what," well in advance.
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Heh, this is the funniest thing I've read all week. The guy sounds like he's mentally challenged and can barely string together his thoughts. At first I dismissed the idea that this was some elaborate Republican ploy, but now that I see they did it in 1990 so perhaps it's possible.
In any case, this thing sucks.

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Was his entry on the ballot "Al Green"? I'd vote for someone named Al Green even if I knew nothing about them. ^_^
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Maybe he'll drop out if Obama offers him a federal position.
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The election numbers show something funky going on, but it's not clear exactly what. FiveThirtyEight has some good digging at the numbers.

One thing that they point out is that polls did show that Rawl did actually have a better than expected (if still extremely slim) chance of threatening DeMint. It still stands that it would be nuts to go to something like what's being suggested just to save having to run even a nominal campaign. Stranger things have happened, though.

Rawl barely had better name recognition than Green did, despite campaigning a bit, so it's possible that this is just a random choice fluke or some weird tabulation error. It'll be interesting to see what comes out as people investigate it.

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In all seriousness, the more I read about this (which admittedly hasn't been much...uggh been so busy) the more I think there was either some fraud or some mistake (machine error?) made.

That said, I can't rule out that it was legitimate.

What would it take to convince you (generic you, not singling anyone out) either way? Honestly, I'm not sure what could be done to make me sure one way or another (unless someone ended up confessing to fraud). What exactly would they do to investigate it? Statistical analysis? One in a million flukes DO occasionally happen. If it was proved to be extremely unlikely statistically speaking, I wouldn't be 100% convinced. Is that enough to take the win away from him?

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quote:
Originally posted by JoshuaD:
Was his entry on the ballot "Al Green"? I'd vote for someone named Al Green even if I knew nothing about them. ^_^

You wouldn't be alone: video
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quote:
Originally posted by G2:
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Originally posted by JoshuaD:
Was his entry on the ballot "Al Green"? I'd vote for someone named Al Green even if I knew nothing about them. ^_^

You wouldn't be alone: video
Just, wow. Well, people get the representation they deserve.
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That's what we get when we run around pounding into people that they have a DUTY to vote, whether or not they have a clue who is running. "Stop the Vote"
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You're not seriously suggesting that Democrats did an incredibly successful get-out-the-vote campaign for somebody who never appeared in public and had no visible platform, are you?
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I remember seeing this movie already, The Distinguished Gentleman with Eddie Murphy who coincidently enough also impersonated Al Green.

I have no idea what's really going on here either but it's pretty hilarious.

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quote:
Originally posted by JoshuaD:
Was his entry on the ballot "Al Green"? I'd vote for someone named Al Green even if I knew nothing about them. ^_^

Greg Killmaster should run for US president. He'd have a decent chance based on the coolness of his name alone.
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I'd vote for Dick Armey, any day.
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Penis Militant

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In 1998, during the Monica Lewinsky scandal, a reporter asked him what he would do if he were in President Bill Clinton's position. He replied "If I were in the President's place I would not have gotten a chance to resign. I would be lying in a pool of my own blood, hearing Mrs. Armey standing over me saying, 'How do I reload this damn thing?'"[8] Several of his former female economics students went public with stories of his sexually harassing them — harassment allegedly so severe that at least one student transferred to another school. He would later divorce his wife and marry one of his students.[9]

After heavy Republican losses in the 1998 elections, Armey had to fend off a bruising challenge for his majority leader post from Steve Largent of Oklahoma, a member of the Republican class of 1994. Although Armey was not popular in the Republican caucus, Largent was thought to be far too conservative for the liking of some moderate Republicans, and Armey won on the third ballot.[10] Soon afterward, Speaker-elect Bob Livingston of Louisiana announced he wouldn't take the post after the revelation of an extramarital affair, Armey initially seemed to have the inside track to become Speaker. As majority leader, he was the number-two Republican in the chamber. However, he was still badly wounded from Largent's challenge, and opted not to run. The post eventually went to Chief Deputy Whip Dennis Hastert of Illinois.

Armey served another four years before announcing his retirement in 2002. In his last legislative effort, he was named chairman of the House Select Committee on Homeland Security and was the primary sponsor of the legislation that created the Department of Homeland Security.

According to Armey, he also sparred with Focus on the Family leader James Dobson while in office. Armey wrote, "As Majority Leader, I remember vividly a meeting with the House leadership where Dobson scolded us for having failed to 'deliver' for Christian conservatives, that we owed our majority to him, and that he had the power to take our jobs back. This offended me, and I told him so." Armey states that Focus on the Family targeted him politically after the incident, writing, "Focus on the Family deliberately perpetuates the lie that I am a consultant to the ACLU."[11]

As a free-market economist influenced by the ideas of Milton Friedman, Armey favored relatively open immigration and the elimination of barriers to the movement of goods and people across national boundaries.

Interesting.
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