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Posted by Richard Dey (Member # 1727) on :
 
There are some pretty ugly monuments in the world, a lot of them now being torn down in the erstwhile Soviet Union! What, however, do you consider an ugly monument in your region or, perhaps, like Siennese gothic Pilgrim Monument in Provincetown, singularly or spectacularly inappropriate?
 
Posted by Funean (Member # 2345) on :
 
I will have to think more on this (Phila's sure to have something heinous, with more statuary than any other US city), but I had to pop in and tell you that I initially read your topic as "Your Religion's Ugliest Moment."
 
Posted by Richard Dey (Member # 1727) on :
 
Here, I think, is a well argued minor classic, a monument to Capt John Smith in the

By comparison, across the bay from us, is one to Capt Myles Standish, 114 feet high with a 14-foot bronze statue atop it.
 
Posted by MattP (Member # 2763) on :
 
For my parts, I'll have to go with Metaphor: The Tree of Utah .

[ November 18, 2006, 02:41 PM: Message edited by: MattP ]
 
Posted by PanHeraclitean (Member # 3120) on :
 
That tree was pretty wierd. Try this on for size. Sam Houston

Imagine driving on the HWY and suddenly seeing this 65ft statue popping out of the trees.
 
Posted by Jesse (Member # 1860) on :
 
I like Fun's topic better.
 
Posted by MattP (Member # 2763) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jesse:
I like Fun's topic better.

But Richard's is more inclusive. After all, EVERYONE has a region. [Wink]
 
Posted by kenmeer livermaile (Member # 2243) on :
 
Metaphor, the Tree of Utah, looks like a giant heavenly phallus that augered in...

Sam looks like God indulging his Victorian era nephew's haberdashery...

Spokane has this.

It's about 15' high. I don't know if it's ugly or beautiful but it's tres hip. The handle is designed as a side for wee kiddies. (Steps hidden in the back.)
 
Posted by Jesse (Member # 1860) on :
 
Not my current area, but...

Paul Bunyan

Babe the big blue ox has big blue bull parts, which a few of my coworkers painted bright red one night. Paul looks like he's wet his pants.

The thing is, I thought that cuttin them hangy things off is what made a bull an ox...
 
Posted by RickyB (Member # 1464) on :
 
In Tel Aviv's Rabin Square (Formerly "Square of the Kings of Israel") there's a monument to "The Holocaust and The Revival". This pic doesn't quite show how butt-ugly, rusty and incoherent the damn thing is. Rabin Square is where every significant political rally is held, smack in the middle of town, and to be there, you gotta stand in the shadow of this pile of scrap metal, devised by a sculptor who's a singular jerk.
 
Posted by Chael (Member # 2436) on :
 
I'm not quite sure whether this counts as a monument, but I think it's close enough: Big Tex .
 
Posted by PanHeraclitean (Member # 3120) on :
 
I put up for your judgment The Circle

What do you think? Cool or not? Make sure to scroll all the way down.
 
Posted by Richard Dey (Member # 1727) on :
 
We should produce a coffee-table book of these [Big Grin] . And certainly we can't leave out Jesus Land or whatever it is in Waterbury CT. I'll try to find that.

But, to win the Fun Ugly Religious Competition, I only have to go intown to see Cardinal Law's [URL=http://www.catholic-forum.com/SAINTS/ncd01386.htm ] old cathedral[/URL].

It is 365 feet long, 170 feet wide, and is so ugly that nobody WANTS it finished! The tall tower was to have a short steeple and the short tower a tall steeple so that they balanced out [Frown] .

This was so offensive to everybody that the plan was changed to [URL=http://www.catholic-forum.com/SAINTS/ncd01386.htm ] this lopsided design[/URL].

That was so awful that they built an elevated in front of it. Because the parish escaped, they built a huge housing project in front of it -- and the Cardinal called for busloads of Hispanics from New York to fill the project and the pews! No separation of church and state in those days!

Today it is just an unfinished heap of [URL=http://www.keelysociety.com/images/hc_north_side.jpg ] ugliness [/URL] that matches the religion beautifully.
 
Posted by Richard Dey (Member # 1727) on :
 
Well, that didn't work very well.

http://www.catholic-forum.com/SAINTS/ncd01386.htm
http://www.keelysociety.com/images/hc_north_side.jpg
 
Posted by Richard Dey (Member # 1727) on :
 
Holy Land U.S.A., Waterbury, Connecticut:

www.thisisct.net

It is a classic and can be seen from !
 
Posted by Richard Dey (Member # 1727) on :
 
Harkness Memorial Tower http://www.backbaypress.com/images/aerial-comm-09.jpg which, to my mind, is not ugly [Wink] .
 
Posted by Serotonin'sGone (Member # 1219) on :
 
Meet the university of florida french fries

Apparently the artist actually called it "alachua."

quote:
“Alachua,” a painted aluminum artwork by John Henry, was installed in 1998. The piece is meant to “express the exuberance of Alachua County’s multi-faceted cultural personality.”

I hate modern artists.
 
Posted by kenmeer livermaile (Member # 2243) on :
 
I think SG wins. Them french fries be hideous.
 
Posted by Richard Dey (Member # 1727) on :
 
cf.: http://www.phys.ufl.edu/~fry/ffries.html
 
Posted by jm0397 (Member # 916) on :
 
World's largest and ugliest field of corn
Scroll down to the pic with the car and concrete corn. This shows the scale of each ear. This is just down the street from my parents house in Dublin, OH. IIRC, it covers about 2 or 3 acres.

Here's another view: Dublin Corn
[DOH]
 
Posted by scifibum (Member # 945) on :
 
I've always thought the Provo LDS temple in Provo, UT to be pretty ugly.

Does anybody know where I can find a picture of the NuSkin building which is near I-15 in Utah county south of Provo? I searched flickr and Google Images to no avail. [Frown]

Edit: I vote for "field of corn" for ugliest monument. I really think after the first giant concrete ear of corn was done someone would have stepped back for a moment, looked at it, and said "Wow. That is not as cool-looking as I thought it would be. I'm going to stop making them now."

[ November 20, 2006, 01:23 PM: Message edited by: scifibum ]
 
Posted by kenmeer livermaile (Member # 2243) on :
 
Eek. That's ugly. COmpare it t the image of the SLC temple at the top of the page, both gothic and futuristic at once (much like Mormonism).
 
Posted by Chael (Member # 2436) on :
 
The field of corn wins. Loses. Wins. Oh, you know what I mean.
 
Posted by kenmeer livermaile (Member # 2243) on :
 
Np! No! Zee freunsch frahzz urr z'ongliest mahnument!!! Eet eez ONGLEE'!!!!
 
Posted by scifibum (Member # 945) on :
 
Ignoring the rules of the thread, this is not in my region but it must be mentioned:

http://thegathering.blogspot.com/2006/09/big-butter-jesus.html
 
Posted by nemes_ie (Member # 804) on :
 
For sheer bad taste, in an area renowned for its large heroin problem, I give you the Millenium Spire in Dublin,(Ireland), a large metal spike...


From Wikipedia

And, in common with most Irish construction projects, despite being planned for the millenium celebrations, it wasn't completed until January 2003
 
Posted by Athelstan (Member # 2566) on :
 
In the UK if you put Millennium in the project’s title it’s a known fact that the project will flop.
Millennium Duds
It’s rather like putting an England jersey on any sportsman. In nearby Portsmouth we have the Millennium Tower. It got finished this year (outside lift doubtful and concrete suspect) and they had to change the name to Spinnaker Tower .
 
Posted by Richard Dey (Member # 1727) on :
 
Gawds ...! They get worse and worse and worse ...!

I must say, I lost my breath on the line "Mega-Messiahs (and other End Times Titans)".

Athelstan's article notes an interesting issue: "... others were put in the wrong place," but not since Stonehenge was built on the Salisbury in Wiltshire (is it?) has a monument, to my mind, gone exactly where I would have put it.

http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/server/show/ConProperty.313 ; but, then, Stonehenge would look good anywhere. The same is not true of the pyramids at Giza, but it the pyramid in Vegas would look better in the middle of the desert!
http://www.annwn.com/cookpot/bits/pyramid.jpg , but a chain-link fence might bright up the scene de'bacle.

(1) The Acropolis. It seems to me that the Athena Temple is 22 inches too far to the right, and the reproduction in Washington State is a better backdrop.

(2) The Eiffel Tower. Who doesn't like it? Who really thinks that that it wouldn't have been better sited in Blackpool? The Tour des Jardins de Luxembourg was so bad that the French logically decided to build a whole new city to the west.

(3) The World Trade Center. Well, the Philistines made short shrift of those ill-sited children's blocks.

(4) Big Eye. I like the ferris wheel -- in Lambeth is it? But that is not a location chosen by Ruskin. It gives one the impression that nobody in England reads Ruskin anymore.

(5) Spinnaker Tower. Everybody who liked the 50s likes this, but the color is off. Many have noted how it should have been two colors, and some aregue for three! Pink and Black ... and maybe gray? Ah, the heady days of Elvis and the Beatles!

(6) Provo. There's something poignant about a sign Jesus Saves blink on and off to reveal a new church foundation with just the concrete showing above a sand pit, but this charmng modrun lump might well be improved by paving the walkypark in front of it, a chainlink fence, and a big plastic sign reading Free Parking for Christ! And where is the H O L L Y W O O D sign in the backdrop?

(7) The Stiletto in the Ghetto, the Rod to God, the Erection at the Intersection, the "Stiffy by the Liffey, the Needle in the Haystack is nothing so monumental as the Nelson Column -- which was the 1st of 3 suicidal IRS attacks on its own foot, the last being the assassination of Lord Louis Mountbatten and one of his grandsons. That was when the American money dried up. Again, it is the wrong color -- but it would look great up somebody's butthole.

(8) Speaking of which, our Cornfield needs a Hole, doesn't it? Would it make more of a statement, say, in SFO's Castro?

(9) The Circle. Still contemplating this one. One can get away with more in Texas than in most places.
 
Posted by Richard Dey (Member # 1727) on :
 
Contrarily, Matt, I'm not offended by the Momen sculpture. I'd call it The Snooker Table on End. I like the colors in it. And, if it had to be actualized and realized and built at all, isn't that a good place for it [Wink] ?
 
Posted by Richard Dey (Member # 1727) on :
 
Found it, Athelstan.

http://www.freefoto.com/images_e/1018/19/1018_19_70_thumb.jpg

It's just a bit sweet to reflect who they really were [Wink] don't you think?

This one, at Plymouth, explains why the rock is more interesting than the actual monument. It is 3 miles away -- and I've never been up to it, the tour buses by the thousands from Boston and Providence never go up there, and yet it is the prototype for the Statue of Liberty! It is 81 feet high and the biggest granite monument in the US.

http://p.vtourist.com/1/623301-National_Monument_to_the-Plymouth.jpg

I'm told it is in a sea of beercans!

Here is the inappropriate one at Provincetown, which begs the question what the Pilgrims had to do with Medieval Sienna:

http://www.signslanguage.com/ptown.jpg

We can just see it 40 miles across Cape Cod Bay.
 
Posted by Athelstan (Member # 2566) on :
 
Thanks Richard

Our Mayflower Memorial also commemorates the US troops who left Southampton in June 1944 bound for Normandy.
As for Stonehenge I’m afraid, in my humble opinion, it has not kept pace with the amenities offered at other sites. The Druids seem to like it but of course Stonehenge has nothing to do with them and anyway they are turning up at the wrong time of the year. Stonehenge has its own action group Save Stonehenge . The last foreign guests I took to Stonehenge were not impressed at all and thought it rather small. They were from Australia though.
 
Posted by philnotfil (Member # 1881) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Serotonin'sGone:
Meet the university of florida french fries

Apparently the artist actually called it "alachua."

quote:
“Alachua,” a painted aluminum artwork by John Henry, was installed in 1998. The piece is meant to “express the exuberance of Alachua County’s multi-faceted cultural personality.”

I hate modern artists.
I like the French Fries. At some point before I leave Gainesville I am going to paint the top ends red.

They are at least better than the potato:
http://virtualtour.ufl.edu/images/turlington3.jpg

This is the oldest rock found in the state of Florida. For some reason they thought it wouldbe a great idea to mount it outside the most used classroom building.
 
Posted by RickyB (Member # 1464) on :
 
Well, if by monuments one can also include a water fountain, then...
This is far worse than the pile of rust in Rabin Square. This fruit cake, which sits atop Tel Aviv's historic Dizengoff Square, was made by (hugely overrated) sculptor Yaacov Agam. Its kinder-garten color scheme and general appearance isn't the worst thing about it. On special occassions it is capable of shooting streams of both water and fire simultaneously. Can you say "tacky", boys and girls?

Unfortunately, the inner operations of this marvel of engineering se water to blacken in taps in a 3 block radius...
 
Posted by Richard Dey (Member # 1727) on :
 
[Big Grin] What a tossup! The dead potato or the lazy susan from a tie-dye factory!
 
Posted by Jesse (Member # 1860) on :
 
Ricky...please don't take offense at this...but...

You guys SUCK at visual arts. [Big Grin]

I mean, got the music thing going on, great writers, terrific comedians and actors, doin' good on the law and science..but I think a few thousand years of moderate iconoclastic ban had it's effect.

[Wink]
 
Posted by RickyB (Member # 1464) on :
 
Hey, we got some decent artists... Chagall, and Rubin, and... Did I mention Chagall? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Richard Dey (Member # 1727) on :
 
Jews are never alcoholics, RB? Here's the exception that proves the rule! Don't like this one. It's layered planes of heavy sheet metal:

http://photosphotos.net/ma1%20thumbnails/MA004.jpg
 
Posted by kenmeer livermaile (Member # 2243) on :
 
Still my favorite monument:

symbol
 
Posted by kenmeer livermaile (Member # 2243) on :
 
"This fruit cake, which sits atop Tel Aviv's historic Dizengoff Square, was made by (hugely overrated) sculptor Yaacov Agam."

It's like a cheap pinata version of a cheap 60s Japanese sci-fi movie flying saucer.
 
Posted by RickyB (Member # 1464) on :
 
I once took a shower in it [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Ivan (Member # 1467) on :
 
Does the South of the Boarder Sombero count?
 
Posted by Richard Dey (Member # 1727) on :
 
[Big Grin] . It's got to, Ivan! You know the rationale nowadays, We didn't cross the border. The border crossed us!

RB: did you wind up dirty like the water?
 
Posted by kenmeer livermaile (Member # 2243) on :
 
A shower. I'm envisioning you pretending to be Dr. Who hiding from the Daleks.

It just seems right.
 
Posted by RickyB (Member # 1464) on :
 
No, the water was ok that day. They weren't running the fire that week. [Big Grin]

It isn't terribly clean water, I wouldn't want it running in my house, but it wasn't rancid either. That day.
 
Posted by Richard Dey (Member # 1727) on :
 
OK, so the real question: did you skinnydip or did you do a costume drama [Wink] ?
 
Posted by Richard Dey (Member # 1727) on :
 
Minneapolis has an interesting Sculpture Garden -- but it is too cold there to survive.

Wim Delvoye: Caterpillar #5, laser-cut steel, stainless steel, 2002:

http://www.bluffton.edu/~sullivanm/minnesota/minneapolis/walkersc/061.jpg
 
Posted by Ikemook (Member # 1519) on :
 
SG,

Is *that* what those things are? I always figured, given the structures proximity to the Science Library, that it was a representation of some sort of chemical or physical structure.

Ugh. It's even worse now that I know what it really is...

--David

[Edited to add: You know, I kinda like the potato. Though that's probably because I've been going to Turlington every semester for 3 1/2 years, so I've grown accustomed to it.]

[ December 10, 2006, 10:41 AM: Message edited by: Ikemook ]
 
Posted by Richard Dey (Member # 1727) on :
 
I like the spoon with the cherry on it [Big Grin] .
 
Posted by The Drake (Member # 2128) on :
 
Am I the only one who read this title as "your Religion's ugliest monument"?
 
Posted by PanHeraclitean (Member # 3120) on :
 
Maybe, Funean read it as "Your Religion's ugliest Moments" I think.
 


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