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...You pivoted away from Issues that Trump
-- owes 300+ million to unknown foreign entities
-- never separated himself from his business interests which foreign entities and various corporations have "donated" to the tune of a billion +

Your very concerned about Biden's unproven issue while you whitewash Trumps issues that leave him vulnerable.

Are you kidding? Trump's business is in a blind trust. What does "never separated himself from his business interests with foreign entities" mean in your disinformational mind? The main donators to the Democrats are the Billionaires who think they own Joe Biden. In the Debate, Biden said his average donation was $43. Liar. The Billionaires do the same thing that the Chinese and Russians do: give the money to his family or PACS where he gets a cut.

Trump is a billionaire. He can handle his money legally. Biden is not a wealthy man on paper, yet he lives like one.

Your wrong on that. Trumps said during the 2016 election that he was gong to place his business into a blind trust but he never did it.

"Trump has served as president while holding on to his hundreds of businesses. He has continued to promote his Trump-branded properties, spending roughly a third of his presidency on his business interests."


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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: October 23, 2020, 03:06:47 PM »
So, the president continues to blame China not just for the virus, but also seemingly every single effect associated to the virus (see "I take full responsibility. It’s not my fault that it came here. It’s China’s fault")

Putting aside that Trump is responsible for his own actions, which might just have had effects also (I know, a crazy thought...) what exactly does that mean?  Is he blaming China for being the geographical location of the first infections?  Is he blaming China's 'cultural practices' of harvesting wild foods?  Was it that China targeted the USA for the infection - and if so, how? If another country was the source of an infection - say, swine flu - would it then be that country's 'fault'?

Trump missed a opportunity. Its true that the initial messaging on masks was confusing. However after learning better a simple plan to encourage everyone to wear them if only to add in his goal of keeping America open I think we would be looking at a different race.

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Does it bother anyone about how the laptop has been reported to have been attained, The chain of custody?
Yes.

No. Hunter brought the laptop to Mac Isaac and signed the receipt that had the caveat that unpicked up, unpaid items become the property of the repairman. Hunter returned a second time and brought in a keypad that he also signed for, then he vanished and would not respond to Isaac's attempts to contact him. After awhile Isaacs became concerned with all the news about Hunter and Joe being involved in scandal, so he copied the hard drive and brought the original to the FBI, where they opened an investigation. (Chain of evidence is the doctrine in law that allows arsonists to escape being proved guilty, when the firemen come into a burning building and overhaul a fire. They toss any flammables out the window, which breaks the chain of evidence so they can't later be checked for fingerprints and admitted as evidence. Isaac maintained control of all items, so everything is admissible.)

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Is Rudy a reliable narrator?
No.

Yes, He is a former prosecutor, with great experience, besides being "America's Mayor." When the FBI warned Isaac that he should "keep quiet or else put himself in danger" he went to wherever he could assume protection, which ended up being Rudy's legal staff.

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Those who believe Hunter and so Joe are guilty fear that it makes Joe vulnerable to blackmail or undue influence from foreign powers.
Yet the same people are not concerned at all of Trump's vulnerability to blackmail and undue influence.
-- he owes 300+ million to unknown foreign entities
-- He never separated himself from his business interests which foreign entities and various corporations have "donated" to the tune of a billion +

Or that Trump has continued to refuse to release his tax returns. Did you see him in the debate last night? What a little cry baby about how unfair the IRS is to him. He could release his returns but he is choosing not to. Nothing about being audited precludes public disclosure.

In actuality, there are no secret Chinese bank accounts. Trump was an international businessman, and as he did explain in the debate, he had an account in China for his business use, which he closed in 2015. It is Biden who got money from China with no transparency.

There are also no problems with any tax returns. Trump did turn over in-depth financial records. There is no law that says he must turn over the thousands of private business records that has accumulated. There is an audit, and his expensive legal representatives told him not to open up any documents he is not required to. He also acknowledged in the debate that although the MSM said he only paid $750 dollars in taxes, he actually paid millions of dollars. Separate verification shows he paid over a million dollars for tax in 2016, and over three million dollars in 2017. The $750 was a filing fee.

Question: has Biden filed anything on the graft he received (and verified) by Russia, China, and other foreign nations?

You pivoted away from Issues that Trump
-- owes 300+ million to unknown foreign entities
-- never separated himself from his business interests which foreign entities and various corporations have "donated" to the tune of a billion +

Your very concerned about Biden's unproven issue while you whitewash Trumps issues that leave him vulnerable.

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Does it bother anyone about how the laptop has been reported to have been attained, The chain of custody?
Is Rudy a reliable narrator?

Those who believe Hunter and so Joe are guilty fear that it makes Joe vulnerable to blackmail or undue influence from foreign powers.
Yet the same people are not concerned at all of Trump's vulnerability to blackmail and undue influence.
-- he owes 300+ million to unknown foreign entities
-- He never separated himself from his business interests which foreign entities and various corporations have "donated" to the tune of a billion +   

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General Comments / Re: How to save the country
« on: October 22, 2020, 02:29:02 PM »
No. Apologize first and stop deflecting. Trump is dirty and so is anyone who allows him to try to skate. 
 Stop for a moment and realize just who Trump is capable of being blackmailed by.

I'm enjoying the hypocrisy of how you define your terms. Changing them to fit your apologist narrative.  You have no credibility.

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If its proved to be bogus does anything happen to Rudy?

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Don’t fall into the trap of believing your own press, unless it serves a need unrelated to objective awareness.

Good advice for everyone

My observations is that the Trump campaign is trying to replay the 2016 game plan
The release of the hacked emails = Hunter stuff. The error in the timing  is that it doesn't have the same history of traction as the Hillary's emails did. Nor did Trump have to ask the DOJ or FBI to open/reopen a investigations. 

The error in replaying 2016 is that it will only resonate with those already committed to Trump. In a sense Trump is the victim of his past success. The thing he seems to forget is that in 2020 he is running as the incumbent.

I do fully expect fox republicans to make Hunter a issue throughout a Biden administration should he win regardless of findings.

That said I still expect Trump to have 4 more years
   

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General Comments / Re: Who will be next to speak out about Trump?
« on: October 21, 2020, 10:40:40 AM »
Holding allies accountable to agreements they made previously is not "blowing up international treaties" that's pointing out the other side is not holding up their side of the deal.

The WHO is a quagmire, most of the UN in general is a quagmire, but its a reflection of the world we live in where most countries are hopelessly corrupt, self-serving, and barely even pretending to care about democratic systems.

John Oliver did a interesting piece on the the WHO. WHO has its problems but it also had done a lot of good work. And the US has us worked through the WHO to do some good work as well. It is unlikely that the US could have completed that work on its own (Trump claim) as many countries don't trust the US.

Its unfortunate that a nuanced relationship as it concerns WHO is overly simplified to all or nothing and that Trump needs something to blame for his own lack of leadership

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We've gotta get the attorney general to act. He's gotta act. And he's gotta act fast.

This is major corruption and this has to be known about before the election.

He's openly calling for the Attorney General to use his office to interfere in the election.

Laws and norms don't apply to the law and order Il Duce

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So answer the question. What media outlet that can comment on things has access to the hard drive or a copy of it? That was your claim, the entire news media had the hard drive and was just waiting on their legal teams for how to write stories about it. Last time I looked last night, I couldn't find a single new outlet outside of the NYP who had access to the files.

Fox News has independently verified some of the emails that have been released.

Does Fox News have a copy of the hard drive?

A quick google and it appears the Post gave Fox the emails and that the sources are never identified.
In a story I read from the Post they were using Fox news as a source for explaining the emails...  WTF

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The GOP face a conundrum. Their nominee is a proven felon and traitor, bur needs to be elected for them to maintain power on the down-ballot.

wmLambert is just playing the Trump game of accusing 'the other' of doing the very thing they are doing. Its in the Trump playbook and guessing the latest marching orders and talking points for the apologists. 

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RL-22,

“Nothing burger
Fake news“


Is this a conclusion based upon real scrutiny, or hope?

WS,

“And what will you do when it is not proven beyond a reasonable doubt?  What will you do when it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt that this was a forgery only intended to try to fool people like you into believing a lie... “

You expect the hard-disk to be “forged“?

“... like the whole Obama birth certificate scandal?  What will you do then, noel?”

I never bought into the Kenya birth story. The reason that Barry would not release his Long-Form birth certificate is that it contradicted his book. He was illegitimate.

You didn't answer the question.
What would you do it this Hunter thing isn't true or can't be proved to be true?

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General Comments / Re: How to save the country
« on: October 19, 2020, 04:02:01 PM »
Do the Judges who believe in a  'static constitution' (I assume being the opposite of a living constitution) believe that no interpretation is required.

Language is a tricky thing.

Tried to read through Science and Sanity: An Introduction to Non-Aristotelian Systems and General Semantics and the one thing got from it is that communicating ideas and intent is extremely difficult.

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General Comments / Re: How to save the country
« on: October 19, 2020, 03:42:29 PM »
What does 'believe in the Living Constitution' mean?

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Nothing burger
Fake news

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General Comments / Re: How to save the country
« on: October 16, 2020, 02:26:26 PM »
...Same could be said of the republicans. Democrats have won the plurality of the popular vote for the president 6 of the last 7 presidential elections.  Also in the last several house elections they have won a significant majority of the votes.

You miss the point. The Democrats are held together by the need for power. The other side holds together on issues they agree upon. The margin of votes the Left pushed through in vote-scam blue areas barely overcame the huge victories elsewhere. Many proclaim that margin less than the margin of error.

People cannot put political signs on their property for fear of vandalism and threats from Democrats, so polling does not work any more. What is noteworthy is that there are so many Trump signs going up bravely everywhere. The lack of Biden support has diminished the Democrat threats and bullying, and people are reacting.

The predictions known for accuracy based on algorithms that have been successful say Trump will win is a 91% certainty. This makes the Left frantic, hence the threats of Civil War.

OMG
I'm pretty sure your a troll or in need of help

RightLeft22: please see your email. -OrneryMod

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I'm personally willing to believe Trump whenever he talks about things he doesn't know, even if he did once know them. The boiling maelstrom that is his brain probably can't retain information for very long.

Let's recall that this is the man that talked about taking over airports in the Revolutionary War.

I disagree. Trump never admits to not knowing something unless not knowing provides a excuse for saying something troubling or not doing something.
Its why trump never is held accountable for what he says as he never really says it

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Trumpism is here to stay, at least for the next decade.

I also would not bet on Trump losing the election

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General Comments / Re: How to save the country
« on: October 16, 2020, 01:53:36 PM »
Can anyone argue now that the stage has not been set? Democrats and the GOP have simultaneous town halls, yet one has an attack-dog moderator and the one for Biden is all soft balls, with zero questions about the corruption allegations. At the same time, the Billionaire Social Media magnates deny the public from seeing official and legal documents during an election. The Democrats have prepared for and called for Civil War if Trump is re-elected, yet they say that is what the GOP and Trump may do. Projection.

The Democrats have never been a majority party - but a plurality party, with discordant sectors with opposing views voting together to hold power. With the Harry Reid cloture rule change, the gerrymandering, court-packing, and making territories into states to get extra Senate seats, they are looking for an unassailable rule. The stage is set, and the GOP cannot vote with comity any longer. No more votes for a SCOTUS who is merely sufficient and accepted because it is the POTUS choice. Every vote is now for total win or lose.

You live in a reality of your own shadow creation
Have you ever wondered if its Trumps combative pre - counter punch communication style that creates the attack-dog moderator reaction?

Your a very dangerous avatar. Note when it comes to talk of Civil War its comes from you.

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What a joke. Trump can only know about Antifa. Proud boys, QAnon, are all a mystery to him. Even after answering questions about QAnon over a month ago. He didn't take 5 minutes to learn they're nuts.

It's a little worse than that - his own intelligence agencies have labelled Qanon as a domestic terrorist threat.  Notwithstanding that was all over the interwebs and cable news, so there is exactly 0% chance he is not somewhat informed of them, his intelligence updates, those communications provided by his own intelligence services specifically for the purposes of preparing the administration for threats to the country, included information on Qanon.

How is it possible that he would not know about Qanon, given they were part of this communication? Hint - the answer is Trump ignores communications from his own intelligence services, even when he is not actively demonizing them.  This type of incompetency should be disqualifying in a president - at the very minimum, the president should be interested in protecting the country - yet here you are.

Trump never says what he says unless he says it. Trump knows everything about everything unless he dons't know it even then he most certainly knows more then anyone that has spent their lives studying.

Why we seem to be surprised when Trump makes such claims about what he knows or doesn't know is beyond me. 

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: October 16, 2020, 10:21:13 AM »
Also disappointing. Starting to hear reports of people contracting covid twice

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I love a good conspiracy theory but I'm not ready to invest in this one yet. I'll need to look into the prospectus a little more first.

I used to say the same thing about conspiracy theories until the day I realized that far to many people don't view them as conspiracies or theories but reality.
I no longer find they funny and try not to give them any oxygen.

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General Comments / Re: Biden Undercuts Confidence in Election Results
« on: October 13, 2020, 06:07:20 PM »
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I hope this doesn't come off as sounding too racist but since it's having to do with Russians maybe it's politically okay. But the Democrats act a lot like Russians in this way. The more they cheat and lie and steal to get what they want the greater the satisfaction they feel when they win. Not all of them of course, but it's ingrained in their culture, maybe even in their DNA. To them, deception is the funnest part of the game. Do I mean Russians? Or Democrats? ... Yes.

On what facts do you base the statement "The more they cheat and lie and steal to get what they want the greater the satisfaction they feel when they win" and that it is in the Democrat DNA?

Of course many would argue that its in the Republican DNA.  But how to prove it?

I suspect one would avoid looking to closely at ones 'tribe' to avoid the charge let alone admit to oneself of having a character that enjoys being a lair, cheat and thief. I suspect one would lie to oneself about that as well. 

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General Comments / Re: Why so cagey?
« on: October 13, 2020, 03:25:12 PM »
Maybe part of the reluctance to openly state certain beliefs is to quell concerns about the potentially partisan nature of the SC? As others have mentioned, if the issue of the SC as a partisan football is serious then perhaps there is some effort now to demonstrate to the public that SC nominations aren't some one-way ticket to armageddon?

Quelling such concerns would be difficult and points to the process as being a show.

I suspect some will see the reversal of abortion and marriage laws as a ticket to Armageddon.  I suspect that such reversal will just cause the pendulum to swing that much harder in the future and that the only way for the GOP remain a power will be from manipulating the system -The GOP making rules that don't apply to them.

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General Comments / Re: Why so cagey?
« on: October 13, 2020, 02:57:55 PM »
I agree it would be refashioning for someone to be up front and speak honestly about their views .
I find the whole process a show. I'm not following closely but suspect the questions being asked are the wrong ones.
 

 

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General Comments / Re: Why so cagey?
« on: October 13, 2020, 01:49:02 PM »
Anything you say and don't say will be held against you.

But that's what I'm saying, how would someone hold it against her? There's only one way, not confirming her. Otherwise she becomes untouchable forever, with the exception of impeachment, which requires 67 Senators, and that ain't happening. It's the last job she'll ever have, can't impact career.

I suspect that her persona/ego needs to appear to be open minded capable of making decisions based on law and the public good verses personal biases and beliefs. Capable of separating church and state

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General Comments / Re: Why so cagey?
« on: October 13, 2020, 01:10:27 PM »
Anything you say and don't say will be held against you.

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General Comments / Re: Biden Undercuts Confidence in Election Results
« on: October 13, 2020, 11:56:37 AM »
When those making the claim that Biden is undercutting confidence in the election results are unable to address or acknowledge the issue of Trump undermining the process I don't see any point in given their claim any oxygen.

These "debate's" are not about facts but point to a physiological issue of projection, shadow and tribalism.

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General Comments / Re: Misleading or false claims by the media
« on: October 09, 2020, 05:46:23 PM »
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Trump; an effective politician no doubt tries to marry public good with his own good regularly

I can't agree with that statement or perhaps I would reorder it. as in Trump very much the politician focus is his on good over the public good regularly.  Trump is a transaction politician whos starting point is whats in it for him.  We can debate if that makes him 'effective'

Hillary emails have been investigated many time and if their were incriminating Trump would be pressing charges not just declassifying them.

Perhaps such transparency is a good thing however the timing is all about benefiting Trump.  That you can look away from such ethical and leadership principles for the your definition of greater good of transparency is fine.

That does make a statement. And as many feel the way you do is it no wonder we get the kind of leadership that we do?

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General Comments / Re: Town halls and debates 2020
« on: October 09, 2020, 03:44:43 PM »
Does Biden's lead in the poll's mean anything?

On Election night Trump is going to declare victory which ever way the vote goes. The republicans won't do anything about it and the Democrats will discover they can't do anything about it.
Well... I think it highly unlikely, but if Florida goes to Biden on election night, even before the mail in ballots are all counted, there simply won't be any path for Trump to achieve anything better than an outright shellacking.

But yes, I agree - unless there is a Biden win of epic proportions, Trump will declare victory.

Let's be careful about the "on election night" bit, because Florida is likely to have plenty of mail in votes and they might just go Trump's way.

and the argument will be that in Florida case mail in ballots are good and safe while any state where Trump loses from mail in's they will be fraud

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General Comments / Re: Town halls and debates 2020
« on: October 09, 2020, 02:51:51 PM »
Does Biden's lead in the poll's mean anything?

On Election night Trump is going to declare victory which ever way the vote goes. The republicans won't do anything about it and the Democrats will discover they can't do anything about it.

No, the polls mean nothing. It' sad, because I studied demographics, and while it should be possible to come close - the current polling seems designed to fail.

The stupidity of the notion that Trump will declare victory, no matter which ever way the vote goes is appalling. It was Hillary who told Biden to not concede no matter what. That sends the signal that she believes the vote can be doctored after the votes are counted. If Trump wins by a landslide, but the Democrats file suit to delay the final vote of the Elcetoral College, what do you propose?

I hear what your saying and agree that Hillary was wrong however if that was wrong,  is it not also wrong for Trump to throw doubt on a peaceful transition of power. Should we not condemn both Hillary and Trump?  And thank god that Hillary is old news?

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General Comments / Re: Town halls and debates 2020
« on: October 09, 2020, 02:25:01 PM »
Does Biden's lead in the poll's mean anything?

On Election night Trump is going to declare victory which ever way the vote goes. The republicans won't do anything about it and the Democrats will discover they can't do anything about it.

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General Comments / Re: Misleading or false claims by the media
« on: October 09, 2020, 02:21:25 PM »
Aside from that, to pretend that doing something for oneself will benefit the country because the self in question is better than the alternative is to argue in circles.

I don't know why you keep arguing these points with me as if you're trying to convince me about what is right and wrong. I am stating what I take to be facts, or at least the best we can do as ascertaining the facts, of the mindset of certain people. Making statements that attempt to describe how people think is only debatable if you believe there is a better way to explain how they think. You telling me what will or won't actually benefit the country is literally off-topic.

Perhaps if the question is reworded.
Is using one's political office in order to benefit oneself (personal benefit) wrong?

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...Mask are not the solution as you point out, but a part of the solution. Staying home if your don't feel well, washing your hands often, social distancing, and wearing a mask are all part of the preventive measures we can all take to protect others. And protecting other ourselves.

Totally agree, but with the caveat that it can only be voluntary. Forcing this on people might get you kidnapped.

With the caveat that as you noted in your other post that those that don't were the mask create a greater risk for those that do. 
Not wearing a mask were others are is making a statement.

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No one thinks masks are the solution. When wearing any mask and walking through a cloud of droplets, those droplets become affixed to the mask and go wherever the mask wearer goes, and is spread from the mask. But at the same time, the shirts, pants, hat and gloves that are also contaminated go with the wearer, too.

You are coming from a point of view of masks protecting you. Masks protect others from your droplets. If every everyone has a mask on everyone is better protected. Those who refuse are the ones placing others at risk for the reasons you give.

Mask are not the solution as you point out, but a part of the solution. Staying home if your don't feel well, washing your hands often, social distancing, and wearing a mask are all part of the preventive measures we can all take to protect others. And protecting other ourselves.



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General Comments / Re: Misleading or false claims by the media
« on: October 07, 2020, 01:10:38 PM »
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The master showman strikes again
Says it all, worship your god as you will and never ever look in the mirror.

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So apparently Trump is getting the VIP treatment with his care and that makes people upset.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/vip-syndrome-trump-discharge-walter-reed-expert-164959783.html

"Alfandre noted that while “VIP” may imply these individuals receive better treatment, many times it’s the opposite. “In spite of these perceived benefits, the quality of their care may be inferior because health care staff may be more likely to deviate from standard practices when caring for them.”

Reports about Trump’s care, which have come mostly from press briefings, suggest an atypical experience. On top of being released after three days in the hospital, while still in the midst of treatment, he’s reportedly received multiple experimental treatments — including the antiviral remdesivir, an unapproved monoclonal antibody therapy and a corticosteroid known as dexamethasone. The three are rarely (if ever) given together and are typically reserved for serious illness.

McIntosh says all of this aligns with VIP syndrome, which can lead to both too much and too little care...

... “We have an ethical code of conduct we have to follow whereby we’re told to respect patient autonomy, to treat everybody equal and not to differentiate care based on somebody’s race, gender or socioeconomic status,” says McIntosh. “So we’re being told really to practice unethically.” Currently teaching her students about the dangers of the syndrome, McIntosh hopes that things may change. But when it comes to individuals like Trump, she knows what it feels like.

“The health care team listens to them, they feel intimidated, and that’s part of the VIP syndrome — they use their power,” says McIntosh. “They use it to exert pressure on the team and say, ‘This is what I want and no, I don’t want this.’ If they don’t want this X-ray, they won’t get it. If they want to get this discharged early, then they’re getting discharged early. They dictate their care.”

So people should listen to and trust their doctors, right?

But then there's this:

"A recent Johns Hopkins study claims more than 250,000 people in the U.S. die every year from medical errors. Other reports claim the numbers to be as high as 440,000.

Medical errors are the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer."

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html

I don't think its the VIP treatment that Trump gets, and should get, that people are upset about.

Its his inability to express empathy for the thousands that have suffered from covid and who don't have access to such care.
Pretty much it his arrogance, dismissing of any safety prototypical that endangered not just him, its all about him, and his non existing empathy the pisses so many people off. 

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General Comments / Re: Misleading or false claims by the media
« on: October 07, 2020, 09:52:23 AM »
All news media headlines: Trump calls off stimulus talks, stocks drop 600; Stephen Miller tests positive for COVID-19

Fox News: Clinton e-mails!!! Clinton e-mails!!! Clinton e-mails!!!

I thought you were joking, so I visited fox news and saw it was true.  :(

Guess that is the story Trump's campaign wants to focus on.

If it wasn't so obvious attempt of distracting the loyal Trumpketeers who will latch on suck, it would be funny instead of sad.

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The doctor looked foolish and I suspect it was suggested he not displease his master.

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General Comments / Re: October Surprise
« on: October 06, 2020, 04:48:51 PM »
Crazy rabbit tricks are for kids

All you need to fool the kids is a example of of a few ballots being mishandled or such to be proof of that all the safe guards are failing even if the safe guards discovered the errors.

It's choosing where to apply the law of when a few "bad apples"  represents the whole or not, however that game to choose which way the law is applied can only be played by the GOP

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General Comments / Re: here comes the next ice age
« on: October 06, 2020, 04:28:13 PM »
As greenhouse gas traps more heat one can expect a change in the jet stream with airflow moving slower.
A observable sign of warming are slow moving weather events that linger over a area resulting in greater damage.

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General Comments / Re: War on Cops
« on: October 06, 2020, 02:05:40 PM »
Those points are all fine, Seriati, but you may note that the purpose of my post was to show that there is some potential overlap between the political position of some of the protesters and some of the guidelines in the FBI's watchlist. That is all. I'm not making a statement about whether they are or are not actual terrorists, or should be called that; nor am I impugning 'constitutionalist' groups nor suggesting that they are all in fact bad.

True. Most are not incorrigibles, but all are idiots. They can have hearts of gold, yet still be idiot morons dancing to the disinformation they believe in. Some are cannon fodder and are thrown into the breech by activists who point them at their enemies and keep their own hands clean. We do all a disservice by pointing at the hoodwinked. We need to look hard at those causing the disinformation and the pain.

I wonder if you made that argument without any thought that just maybe you too may have at times played the useful idiot promoting disinformation and pain.
Of course everyone demonstrating are idiots.... but I wonder if you agreed on the issue the brought out demonstrators if you would label everyone of them idiots.

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General Comments / Re: Town halls and debates 2020
« on: October 06, 2020, 01:19:04 PM »
Following the first debate, Biden extended his lead over Trump in the national popular vote polls by about 1%.  Now that we're seeing polls as of yesterday, we are beginning to see polls taken during Trump's hospital stay, and there is another ~0.5% bump for Biden.  I Imagine this will be transitory, but Biden's lead over Trump has now been extended by 1.7% in the national popular vote since the day before the debate.  in 538's average of national polls, Biden's lead currently stands at 8.8%.

I say transient, since the popular vote difference has been very steady in the high-6% / low-7% range for more than a month now, and I would expect the lead to stabilize and revert to around that base value within a week.  At the very least, it is another week where Trump did not narrow the margin.

I don't think 8% is going to be enough for Biden to win Win.
Unless Biden wins really big on election day Trump is going to declare himself the winner and their will be very little the DNC can do about it. 
Trump will call shotgun in a game that only he is allowed to call shotgun.

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: October 06, 2020, 01:11:02 PM »
It appears that the overall mortality has not increased due to Coronavirus. Approximately 2,839,205 died nationwide in 2018. That number has not been reached and is under projection for all deaths plus Coronavirus for this year. When deaths due to murder, car crashes, and parachute failures are attributed to the Wuhan Flu, just what are we measuring?

"When deaths due to murder, car crashes, and parachute failures are attributed to the Wuhan Flu" Fake news

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Trump tweets: COVID-19 less lethal than flu for most populations!!

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Flu season is coming up! Many people every year, sometimes over 100,000, and despite the Vaccine, die from the Flu. Are we going to close down our Country? No, we have learned to live with it, just like we are learning to live with Covid, in most populations far less lethal!!!

Somebody has got to wrest his phone away from him until he's no longer hopped up on drugs.  The alternatives are 1) he actually believes the completely counter-factual things he is saying and is not high on steroids, or b) he is simply lying.

There is a C) he dons't care. he's not lying if what he says fits his narrative.

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...Stand by for what?  A sign from God?  Or a sign from Trump?  (Or am I being redundant to Trumpists? ;) )

Has anyone mention that the Proud Boys is NOT a White Supremist organization, and has actually spoken out against them? Why would Trump be expected to know about them? And more importantly, why did Chris Wallace and Biden even bring them up?

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The Proud Boys are a far-right, neo-fascist, and male-only organization that promotes and engages in political violence in the United States and Canada. While the group officially rejects racism, several members have been affiliated with white supremacy and leaders often share white nationalist content within the group
Walks like a duck, smells like a duck might be a duck. But sure like Trump the Proud Boys can create their own reality and everyone must buy in.

For someone as smart and informed as Trump, no one is smarter or has the best words, one might expect that he knows something about such things as Proud Boys. He knew about Antifa?
Maybe Wallace and Biden should have said the KKK but Trump doesn't know anything about them either. Of course Trump could have just denounced White Supremacy in general without the need for a specific name. Or maybe Trump needs to be infected before he learns anything. I was glad to hear yesterday that after 8 months he learned all about covid.  Stand by and follow me.

Trump always knows everything unless knowing something might mean he might need to take responsibility. 

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General Comments / Re: Town halls and debates 2020
« on: October 01, 2020, 03:52:24 PM »
I don't think Trump is capable of talking policy. 2016 he had people feeding it to him however I doubt he listens to anyone anymore. Without 'lock her up', and 'build that wall' I don't think he has anything other then bluster. So I don't see a point of any more debates.

Let the vice Presidents do the debating. 

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General Comments / Re: Town halls and debates 2020
« on: October 01, 2020, 02:49:05 PM »
What continues to astound me is that this is a 74 year old man we're all watching. And he really does react the same way a four year old would if you took away their toy.

There's no great mystery in explaining how and why Trump does what he does. The answer is simple. He's *spoiled*.

Trump has always been really good at creating his reality. Just odd how so many buy into to it as its not a attractive reality unless your Trump.

Trumps reaction to Biden suggesting he wasn't smart was telling. A very Id level reaction. If Biden team noticed it would be a good way of throwing Trump off in the next debate. If done well you might actually see Trump throw one of his tantrum's.

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General Comments / Re: Town halls and debates 2020
« on: October 01, 2020, 09:16:13 AM »
...Trump has always been seen as a good promoter of his brand which is not the same as being considered a good businessman. At least not in my opinion and the number of business failures, reported business losses and with the upcoming 300 million due supports that assessment. But go ahead invest your savings with him.

I don't think you want to compare Trump and Biden's Children.

Yes, Trump has always been seen as not only a good and successful businessman, but a highly moral one. The stories to the opposite are similar to how Hillary started the Russia collusion lies against him to offset her exposure for her eMail felonies.

There is no comparison between Trump's successful and well-raised kids as opposed to either Hillary's or Biden's spoiled kids.

You need to get better informed or check your sources. Ask all the people who Trump has shafted in business how moral he is. Trump business practices have always been in question especially after 2008. 
Nice try at a diversion with Hillary.  Nothing Hillary did or didn't do makes Trump a moral or a good businessmen.   

If you define a Snake Oil salesman that is good at selling himself and living off the state a "good" businessman go ahead invest your savings in him. But don't be surprised, like many others before you, you find your self in court.

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General Comments / Re: Town halls and debates 2020
« on: September 30, 2020, 05:08:24 PM »
When it comes to crappy politicians giving money to family,  Trump has little and nothing to talk about. The only thing saving him is his control of the Justice Department. He'll get his, whether it's in 2021 or 2025. Of course, he may well be banking on the issue of him being dead before the birds come home to roost. He is a fat seventy something after all.

Poor post. Trump has always been considered a good businessman, and his kids learned how to work and earn their way, rather than be carried, like Chelsea, or Hunter. Trump has everything to talk about. Just compare his successful children to them.

That's not true. Trump has always been seen as a good promoter of his brand which is not the same as being considered a good businessman. At least not in my opinion and the number of business failures, reported business losses and with the upcoming 300 million due supports that assessment. But go ahead invest your savings with him.

I don't think you want to compare Trump and Biden's Children. 

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