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General Comments / Re: Who funds the candidates?
« on: September 30, 2022, 11:13:30 AM »
American campaign finance always seems really weird from the UK where party spending is limited by law to approx 3 orders of magnitude less than in the US - even allowing for some armwaving about what counts. And even that level of advertising is plenty annoying enough...

General Comments / Re: Whose cell/womb is it anyways?
« on: September 24, 2022, 11:06:28 AM »
Even if they were arguing that you and your family, specifically, should be slaves? Or murdered by the state? Or forced to give birth to the children of their rapist?

There may be value in attempting to understand why people have certain beliefs but that doesn't mean we shouldn't dismiss those beliefs out of hand.
It is possible to both believe that a given philosophy is correct and for you to be directly disadvantaged by it - indeed you can argue that it is only by taking negative consequences from a belief that you can show that you actually believe in it rather than it just being a convenient cover for self-enrichment.

General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: September 22, 2022, 12:04:26 PM »
The results say they can be changed and the court says there is proof of that changing.
Could you point me at a document produced by a court that says that the machines changed results in an election please (not documents containing allegations presented to a court). So far I've missed that one and a simple web search produces buckets of allegations, but nothing actually produced by a court. Thanks.

General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: September 22, 2022, 05:20:13 AM »
Wow! Having become confused as to which court cases were actually going on I went and searched for it.  This article gives the timeline & list of running related cases:

Gosh there are a lot of them! Without researching each one the central suit seems not to be that the machines are hackable, but that the various defendants asserted that they were hacked and used to change the result of the election - which I hope everyone can see are two different statements.

General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: September 21, 2022, 10:43:20 AM »
I think it is fair to say that worries about insecure voting machines have been around forever.  They've been insecure in the last election, the election before that and the election before that, but to suggest that the results of those elections hung on which side had the better hackers seems implausible to me. I would have been utterly astonished if a security audit hadn't found any holes. But so far there is no proof that they have been hacked by Republicans or anyone else.

To me the paper trail largely settles the issue. That was a glaring hole not only for malfeasance, but just plain software errors. It is possible that a hacked machine could flip the votes on both the screen and the paper, but the machines I've used print the paper, which I hand carry over to be recorded. If the recording machine got hacked, then you'd still have the paper for a hand recount or audit. And no amount of hacking can make the recording machine alter the paper. I've seen other systems where the paper trail is just visible to the voter, and some of the voters could overlook a discrepancy, but not all of them. It would be exposed, it seems.
I'm relying on second-hand reporting, our (UK) voting is MUCH simpler (typically one cross made with a pencil on a piece of paper), and I got the impression that some m/cs produced paper trails and some didn't. I'd definitely be in favour of the sort that did.

General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: September 21, 2022, 06:15:00 AM »
Judge Wright also found sufficient evidence that Lindell knew or should have known his statements were false and acted with “actual malice” in promoting them, a key legal threshold in defamation cases.

That doesn't sound much like "the facts Mike had and presented as proved and accurate". It kind of sounds like the opposite.
If you rephrase it as "the [allegations] that Mike had [which he] presented as proved and accurate" then it does fit. And, allowing for some Trumpian value of the word "fact", the former can be parsed as the latter and the judge's suggestion is that the presentation as "proved and accurate" was malicious.

General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: September 21, 2022, 05:28:45 AM »
I think it is fair to say that worries about insecure voting machines have been around forever.  They've been insecure in the last election, the election before that and the election before that, but to suggest that the results of those elections hung on which side had the better hackers seems implausible to me. I would have been utterly astonished if a security audit hadn't found any holes. But so far there is no proof that they have been hacked by Republicans or anyone else.

General Comments / Re: London Bridge is Falling?
« on: September 20, 2022, 04:32:05 AM »
I do have opinions on gin, but seeing as they are mostly small UK distillery opinions they won't translate well to your side of the pond. My greatest disappointment gin-wise was finding out that Bombay Saphire wasn't actually blue - it was just the bottle (otherwise its quite a nice gin).

Are you anti-Beefeater?
No I'm not - to be honest I've never tasted it - I've tasted and liked (in the established brands) Tanquary, Bombay Saphire, Hendricks.  Gordons is what I grew up on & is bland but usable as a mixer.
We have some good gins over here. The difference between good gin and bad gin is quite startling.
Just to be clear I wasn't suggesting that the States/Canada don't have worthwhile gins - the practice of dumping herbs into pure alcohol is pretty much universal and some of the results are really nice, others are interesting but odd, others will just get you drunk and aren't so bad after the 4th glass. My statement was meant to say that telling you about the locally infused gin I picked up in a small shop near Hadrians Wall that was very strong in elderflower would be fairly pointless as you couldn't get it.  The current fashion for gin means that every hamlet now has its own local selection.

General Comments / Re: London Bridge is Falling?
« on: September 19, 2022, 10:46:01 AM »
I do have opinions on gin, but seeing as they are mostly small UK distillery opinions they won't translate well to your side of the pond. My greatest disappointment gin-wise was finding out that Bombay Saphire wasn't actually blue - it was just the bottle (otherwise its quite a nice gin).

General Comments / Re: London Bridge is Falling?
« on: September 19, 2022, 10:34:26 AM »
I've never forgiven the US Budweiser Corp for forcing the (original) Budweiser from České Budějovice to rename their beer.

General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: September 19, 2022, 10:26:57 AM »
Here in the UK, with decent vaccination rates we're in the "it's endemic now - just live (and die) with it" stage, much like flu. I've had my reminder to get my (free) flu & covid jab for free as I'm over 50. Otherwise, precautions are pretty much back to pre-pandemic non-existence. I think when someone says "it's over" these days they mean it has been accepted like car crash or flu deaths. We aren't going to get rid of covid in the foreseeable future, treatment & vaccinations have brought the death toll right down so I guess that pretty much everyone's risk/reward has ended up on the side of "f*ck it".

General Comments / Re: The Trump Papers
« on: September 19, 2022, 10:17:40 AM »
The rest have been bought off by The Soros/Gates cartel. It is just proof of how deep the swamp is. All the more reason for Trump to get reelected so he can clean the swamp up even more.

There is actually a fair bit or reporting via alternative channels indicating that the lack of lawyers has to do with major and minor law firms putting down a firm "You shall not" policy in place in regard to Trump. So while the individual lawyer might be inclined to do so, the law firms they're part of are not, out of concern that other paying customers they represent will seek out representation elsewhere.

So while they might be chomping at the bit to represent Trump if they could, even if it'd be pro-bono, they're not willing to lose the paychecks they're getting from their current jobs to do so.
To be fair this sounds fairly plausible - the law firms themselves might also like getting paid which is maybe why they choose not to work for Trump. But on the other hand if a lawyer really wants to work pro-bone for the good of Trump then they could just do so - getting paid is nice but the joy of being on the side of Truth would be its own reward :-)

General Comments / Re: GOP nutbag of the week
« on: September 15, 2022, 05:32:59 AM »
What's really at issue is the average person (and Congressperson) isn't going to be up on the tech scene enough to be able to judge whether 'that time' has finally come where getting bio-tracking will be a legitimate concern. To them it's already that time. That may not be accurate, but the concern should probably be addressed in advance (it won't be).

RFID has been with us for a couple decades now. Amazon even setup a demonstration store using RFID to allow a customer to walk in(identified by RFID--presumably a phone or other more "passive" item responding to the active ping at the doorway. Then you go through the store, pickup what you want, and leave. It'll bill you for what you exit with automatically as each item was RFID tagged and scanned as you walked out the door.
I think this is what you are referring to and that isn't RFID it's a "conventional" login + a lot of cameras.

General Comments / Re: The Trump Papers
« on: September 02, 2022, 04:53:59 AM »
However, as an aside, I find the idea of prosecuting a former president for violating an executive order, during their term of office no less, seems to be a bit... Awkward politically speaking.

Definitely awkward but Potus can't be above the law. Still I would drop all investigations if Trump agreed to quietly go away.
What are the chances of Trump doing anything quietly?

General Comments / Re: The Trump Papers
« on: September 01, 2022, 10:48:37 AM »
Currently their is an Executive Order for classification and declassification, it could be overridden by a subsequent President, but until done so the EO is in effect.
Do you have a pointer to the text of that EO? It would add some actual facts to the current discussion about who can do what and when.

General Comments / Re: The Trump Papers
« on: September 01, 2022, 08:05:24 AM »
A slight wrinkle on the classified paper argument is that I've just heard an (ex?) FBI agent on the BBCs Americast podcast ( assert that the classification status of documents is whatever the _current_ president says it is - so it doesn't matter what Trump may or may not have done, its whatever Biden says it is and if he chooses to say it is whatever is written on the front of the document then that is what it is.

General Comments / Re: The Trump Papers
« on: August 28, 2022, 09:36:20 AM »
Again, where does Trump get the power to declassify the documents? You say he has ultimate power to declassify. Where does it say that in the Constitution?
Nothing I've seen so far has suggested that Trump, whilst president, didn't have the power to declassify documents. I think we have to give him that. Whether or not that power came with requirements that he follow procedure to do so is a lot more murky. I've certainly seen no evidence that he told anyone that had had declassified any of the documents in question. He equally certainly can't do so retrospectively.
If they are now, in fact, declassified then all of them should immediately be published in full to show everyone just how innocuous they are.

General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: August 23, 2022, 07:12:32 AM »
I guess if you are a Democrat apologist that it is easier to denigrate truth-tellers than it is to reconsider your incorrect dogma.
s/Democrat/party or belief of your choice/ and that is a universal truth.

General Comments / Re: Trump looses again
« on: August 21, 2022, 06:35:56 AM »
Trump seems really upset that he is backing Dr Oz in PA.  Mitch is correct that when the Reps take a beating in the Senate this fall it will be due to a lack of good candidates running.

Trump supporters can maybe win the primary but they will lose in the general. Or at least in most states.
I really, truly, hope you are correct. I just have this horrible feeling that come results day most of us here are going to be standing back going "how did that happen?" (and no, I don't believe it will have been successfully rigged by the GOP though they will of course try).

General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: August 19, 2022, 05:59:09 AM »
Just for the record I really appreciate William posting here - without him I would be unable to believe that the reported positions of Trump supporters were real.  I don't go near that section of the media, but he brings home just how unshakeable some of that faith is.

General Comments / Re: Trump looses again
« on: August 14, 2022, 02:56:27 PM »
apparently Trump had a standing order that any files removed from the Oval Office and taken there were to be deemed declassified
If that's true, that's appallingly unprofessional. Which means it's probably true.
If you read the linked BBC post you'll find that it was in a statement from Trumps office though that doesn't make it true I guess...

General Comments / Re: Trump looses again
« on: August 14, 2022, 10:05:53 AM »
I know this will not convince Wm since he is already sure that there were no classified documents at MAL.

Well according to the BBC reporting on the raid they found files marked top-secret, but apparently Trump had a standing order that any files removed from the Oval Office and taken there were to be deemed declassified, so by definition any files found must be declassified (no matter how marked). I wonder if someone in the US can submit an FOI request for their contents - after all if they are declassified that should just work - right?

General Comments / Re: What are some things that Biden gets right?
« on: August 05, 2022, 04:27:47 AM »
The law of God, as seen in the Bible, is clear about what is moral and immoral. And since even people who have never encountered the law know generally what is moral and immoral
So you are happy with the entirety of Leviticus as a description of good & bad?

Its a position certainly.

General Comments / Re: Whose cell/womb is it anyways?
« on: August 03, 2022, 02:06:31 PM »
Having read the ballot question I'd certainly believe that it was designed to confuse and, to me at least, appears to be in favour of "yes". There are far too many words there. It could, and should, and been cut down to "Repeal the Kanas Constitutional amendment that protects abortion? yes/no".

On the other hand it seem unlikely anyone was actually confused due to the publicity surrounding the vote.

General Comments / Re: Climate alarmists are wrong.
« on: August 02, 2022, 01:11:45 PM »
I saw William's description of the Arthur B. Robinson Center -- which isn't too far from my in-laws' place -- and choked. Please Google Arthur Robinson before continuing. :)
If you Google "Arthur Robinson" you get a well respected cartographer who has an eponymous map projection. "Arthur B. Robinson" gets you a climate change denier.

General Comments / Re: Trump looses again
« on: July 26, 2022, 06:40:28 AM »
Actually you confuse me, too. Heliocentrism is usually compared against geocentrism - not a flat earth. All in all, it was the Church that sought out the science. It was the church that decreed the earth revolves around the sun, not placing the Earth at the center.
Could you give me sources and dates on that?

Wikipedias article on Copernicus states:
In March 1616, in connection with the Galileo affair, the Roman Catholic Church's Congregation of the Index issued a decree suspending De revolutionibus until it could be "corrected," on the grounds of ensuring that Copernicanism, which it described as a "false Pythagorean doctrine, altogether contrary to the Holy Scripture," would not "creep any further to the prejudice of Catholic truth."
with a note that this prohibition was finally removed in 1835.

General Comments / Re: Addiction rehab
« on: July 24, 2022, 06:01:09 AM »
I'm pretty sure the only way you can do that is by redefining the terms such that it cannot exist.

Otherwise humans crave pleasure, or at least a reprieve from misery and that sensation is addictive.

General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: July 22, 2022, 06:44:19 AM »
Answer us, who has that kind of money to spread around, and who has the facility to print up hundreds of thousands of bogus ballots, get then to all the drop off points, and fill them out in the few hours after the numbers needed was ascertained?
Donald Trump?

General Comments / Re: Musk and Twitter
« on: July 19, 2022, 11:26:59 AM »
Right, except that it wasn't exactly a strict business investment, more like a moral investment.
Given that his reasons for pulling out are pure business ones it doesn't seem like his morals had a lot of fibre. You can't reasonably argue that he didn't know that Twitter had bots, he's complained about it often enough.

General Comments / Re: Musk and Twitter
« on: July 19, 2022, 05:53:36 AM »
This is why rational investors perform due diligence. By waiving it, Musk was basically saying "I trust the numbers you've given me."

Now he's trying to run an audit to prove it was a stolen acquisition. But he has no proof that the bot count isn't exactly what they said it was.

I'm not really sure where I stand on this, if anywhere (I don't care as much as it may seem). But just to follow your reasoning, let's say Musk had in fact tried to do this due diligence before making a hard offer - how do you think that plays out? My thinking is Twitter gives Musk the same data it was giving everyone, and if he asks for more info or direct personal access to investigate the accounts himself, they refuse just as they would to anyone else. How else would he gain insider access to see for himself unless he had already put his foot in the door as a buyer? To be fair they did offer him a board seat first, so potentially he could have accepted it, and from within the board tried to get the board to agree to produce better data. But that process would likely be long, and even then he could potentially be overruled.
My laymans (and possibly flawed) understanding is that normally you write an offer letter that goes something along the line of "we offer X billion $ for the company subject to due diligence not showing anything unexpected", Musk wrote one that went "I offer Y billion $ for the company and I want it so much/quickly that I'll skip due diligence". The due diligence process does entitle you to poke through the books at a deeper level that the public normally gets to see and would have got him to the current point where he could pull out without having made any unfortunate commitments.

General Comments / Re: GOP nutbag of the week
« on: June 23, 2022, 05:38:02 AM »
There are only two things to think about, here. One, is Trump's true popularity amongst voters, and the swelling Black and Latino improvement.
I'm going with the vote, as recorded, being his true popularity - so a bit less than half the population of the US liked him then.
The second is that Biden's vote came from hatred of Trump.
That is a point that I think I have to give you
Hatred which was based on Democrat lies.
That one not so much. I'm pretty sure it was based on his behaviour and his words, almost none of which appear to have been designed to create harmony across the population.
He's said, "Russia, Russia, Russia," for six years now, and you know he was right. Again.
Most of what I heard re. Russia was (paraphrasing in case it isn't obvious) "Putin - he's this smart guy I like him a lot and get on well with him"

In terms of "the enemy" what I heard was "China, China, China" and, if I'm being fair, whilst I'm dubious about his methods I'm not sure he was wrong about the target.

General Comments / Re: Thoughts and Prayers - Again...
« on: June 10, 2022, 05:10:34 AM »
“I did, I spoke to the leader of the Taliban today, we had a good conversation,” Trump told reporters as he left the White House, adding that he and Taliban leaders “agreed there is no violence, we don’t want violence.”

If only Mike Pence had refused to certify the electoral count, we'd have perfect relations with a free Afghanistan. Trump surely would have guaranteed us victory, just like I wrote about in my MAGA fan fiction!
To be fair to Trump there was surprisingly little violence - the Taliban just took over.  Maybe that was the deal?

General Comments / Re: God Exists
« on: June 09, 2022, 11:41:40 AM »
There are two branes, the vibration between each of which sustains the existence of our universe. Fourteenth-dimensional observers call one of them "Ultra-A", and the other one "Ultra-B". They don't know which is which, not least because there definitionally can be no distinguishing features or positioning or anything that would let someone reliably make a distinction, but they sometimes like to write stories in which the two branes are in love but cannot be together because they don't want to accidentally destroy the universe they didn't really intend to make in the first place. In these stories, the authors impute to "Ultra-A" a slightly supercilious British accent, but of course that's fictional.
Thank you - that bit made my day :)

General Comments / Re: SOP
« on: June 09, 2022, 06:17:50 AM »
As I understand it - he did turn up with all those things (but if you believe in everyone's right to remain heavily armed at all times then what is the problem) - then he turned himself in before doing anything more than turning up near the house. I am all for people who are about to commit a crime tuning themselves in before doing so.  If that is the mark of the Left then hurrah for the Left!

General Comments / Re: Thoughts and Prayers - Again...
« on: June 09, 2022, 06:07:08 AM »
The point you’re avoiding is that a poorly armed and trained force defeated the US military. Now, you can try to blame that on the dementia addled “president “ - and be accurate in that assessment. But the bottom line is the taliban won. They got their country back and the US out. Nothing you say will change that fact.

So according to your definition of "defeated", if I punch someone until they are just lying there, and eventually I get bored and walk away, they have "defeated me"?

Nope. Wanna try again?

I would rate your reading comprehension...of your own statement, to be very weak if you can't see how this conclusion follows. You claim the Taliban "defeated" the U.S., and 'defeated' according to you means the U.S. decided to leave. It's simply a tautological statement, and if you can't see that then as Tom has pointed out it seems unlikely you are interested in seeing it.
As I see it

Initially the USA (+ allies, but its an American driven operation) successfully drove the Taliban from power
Then for many years they suppressed the Taliban.  They found it impossible to eliminate them.
There were very inconsistent attempts at aid / nation building. This phase was generally a failure.
After seeing no end point to the operation and having suffered a political change that tends towards isolationism they go "Can't be bothered any more" and withdraw.
Everyone expects the abandoned Afghan government to fall in a year or so.
Everyone (on all sides) is surprised when it only takes a month or so.

So assuming that the objective was to leave Afghanistan a stable West leaning state then something failed (and if it wasn't what was the objective? revenge?). Now whether you think it was the Govt or the Military or both probably depends on your politics and how much you conflate the Govt with the Military and whether or not you think it should have been possible to eliminate the Taliban and/or build a functional national government.

Now at this point does defeat equate with "failure to achieve objectives"? Probably not (there is a gap between defeat and victory), but its close enough for a politician, and certainly close enough if you want an argument.

General Comments / Re: Thoughts and Prayers - Again...
« on: June 08, 2022, 07:11:25 AM »
And how can you feel safe knowing that their next-door neighbor has a 10-kiloton atomic bomb, and you don't??

My god, how could you possibly defend yourself? ;)

You think the next door neighbor can shell out millions to aquire a nuclear bomb and the roughy $1.8 million per year to maintain it? Really?

My god, do you even hear yourself?
Lets try the much simpler and cheaper alternative of - don't you feel so much safer on the subway knowing that the guy sitting next to you has a bandolier of grenades on him?

General Comments / Thoughts and Prayers - Again...
« on: May 25, 2022, 06:29:33 AM »
Title says it all really

I don't consider Putin to be a reckless but I can't figure out what he was thinking he would gain.

I assume he figured it would go like Crimea. That the West would make some token protests, Ukraine would quickly capitulate, and then.... I don't know what it gains. Restoration of the Empire? Having a strategic location to threaten Europe?
I think restoration of empire.  There seems to be a feeling (maybe not utterly unwarranted) that things were better in the USSR and they want it back. I'm pretty sure that Putin thought that Ukraine would fall as easily (and mostly bloodlessly) as Crimea.

General Comments / Re: Cryptocurrencies
« on: May 19, 2022, 12:11:57 PM »
When someone forgets thier crypto currency password and loses access to the funds. What is lost? Where does the energy as represented by the currency go?
It doesn't go anywhere - it stays spent, inaccessible to everyone.

General Comments / Re: Cryptocurrencies
« on: May 19, 2022, 05:01:20 AM »
You can talk about it all you want, but this isn't a zero sum system.  There is no finite resource to allocate - its questionable whether there is any resource.
Not really true. Yes you can create any number of crypto currencies if you have buy-in from punters, but each currency is a finite resource - that is sort of the point - it gets exponentially more difficult to mine new coins as time goes on (along with the exponentially increasing energy requirements to mine them) and the infinite sum has a finite value (1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8... = 2).

Whatever Trump did resulted in Putin not further invading Ukraine and the Taliban not taking over Afghanistan under his watch. Biden did an about face and unleashed hell in both places.
I'm not sure you can reasonably credit Trump with those non-disasters any more than you can blame him for existence of Covid.  Those are things that happened when he was in charge no more no less.

The Afghanistan debacle was Trumps plan executed (arguably poorly) by Biden with immediate consequences that no-one, on any side as far as I can tell, expected. Pretty much everyone expected the Afghan government to collapse, but no-one expected how fast it was going to be. And it would have collapsed if Trump was in charge too, the details might have been different but any assertion that it would have been worse/better is based purely on Faith not facts.

Can't say as to Ukraine.  My personal expectation is that Putin would have executed his "Special Military Operation" and Trump would have stood back and said that he was just reclaiming what was his anyway.  And whilst I can't know that it does fit with Trumps general inclination to reduce Americas military presence around the world.

I have no evidence that Trump caused Covid. And I don't think he did though of course it might have been some really cunning plot and the Chinese are in fact right when they say it was deliberated seeded in China by America to discredit them as part of Trumps long term anti-China campaign - that fits doesn't it!?

General Comments / Re: The Great Replacement?
« on: May 18, 2022, 06:10:54 AM »
I think it might be similar to how mass violence worked out in the Reformation. Protestant riots usually would go and smash up Catholic churches and statues due to their iconoclasm. Catholics didn't have similar material targets so they tended to slaughter Protestants when their blood was up.
The Protestants (in England at least) definitely went out of their way to hunt down Catholic priests.  Old houses in the right bits of the country often have "priest holes" (secret rooms - normally very small) where priests could hide when the hunters came round.

General Comments / Re: We gotta talk about Uncle Joe
« on: May 17, 2022, 09:23:22 AM »

Wm also firmly believes that the earth is only 6,000 years old.
I have actually lurked on this site for long enough to remember the days where there were impassioned multi-thousand word posts on the science that supposedly backed young-eartherism (I didn't join back then 'cos I was sure my typing speed wasn't up to the required rate - some of those posts were _long_) so its nice to know that the breed has not completely died out here.  :)

General Comments / Re: We gotta talk about Uncle Joe
« on: May 17, 2022, 05:30:16 AM »
Why can't the Democrats admit their responsibilities for everything they've done? Nothing failed under Trump. That happened as Biden stopped Trump policies and ignored his achievements. You can't deny that every time Biden blocked a successful Trump initiative that the result was negative. I, personally believe the whole Covid-19 closing of the economy was a Democrat strategy to block Trump's reelection. No one can prove the Pandemic was politically inspired, but it sure has some interesting coincidences that all focus back to the Democrats, though.
OK - I know that I'm going to regret asking this but how do you manage to construe the worldwide Covid pandemic as a Democrat plot?  That seems even more implausible to me than the CIA raiding servers and the Kraken (both of which seem to have faded into the mist).

General Comments / Re: #Tweetstorm 14:1-5
« on: May 17, 2022, 05:20:28 AM »
Even if people had control of perfect opt in filtering that meant you'd never see somebody talking about subhuman n*ggers unless you deliberately choose to, it is in society's best interests to limit the spread of that message and reinforcement of behavior that inevitably leads to harm to the object of their hatred. That hatred might manifest as street altercations, murder, or verbal assault. Being able to see that there are millions of other racists subscribed to r/whitepower encourages racists to feel like it's normal and just another point of view. I mean like, sure that's pretty much what r/tuckercarlson is, but they have to speak in coffee at least.

See my prior post regarding how insulting, and frankly sad, it is to see so many people being fully bought into the idea of there being tens of millions of "racists in waiting" just waiting for their chance to connect with a Racist group online where they'll instantly transform from a 3 of out 10 on the racism scale to 11 out of 10 overnight(or over 20 years) because of that.

You ever consider the possibility that also works in reverse? That 3/10 guy, once exposed to 10/10 guy might very quickly become 1/10 guy instead. That is kind of what happened in the 1960's when the racism of the deep south was given national news coverage on television. Why should you expect people would find "full exposure" any less repugnant today?

Sure, if you let the racists "groom" their targets, you leave those people wide open for conversion, a little bit at a time. But they can only do that now because in major media channels, all they could hope to encounter is a caricature of such groups on a television drama or action/adventure.
I'm perfectly prepared to believe that majority of people when confronted by such extreme views just go "oh look, another nutter" but the issue is how big the minority is that goes "there must be something in that" and get drawn in (vs. what would have happened if not exposed).  Unfortunately you only need a small proportion of the population to be radicalized to to present a real danger to society.

General Comments / Re: We gotta talk about Uncle Joe
« on: May 13, 2022, 09:52:55 AM »
I can't comment on whether the stocks held by the border patrol are appropriate I really don't have that info and I doubt the authors of the linked article had (or cared) either, but I will note that even if supply of baby food was normal, now there is perceived to be a shortage of it, the shelves would be empty and those who were lucky enough to find it would be hording it rather than sharing it with their fellow citizens.  In the UK at the start of the pandemic there was a massive toilet roll shortage, not because there was any lack of supply but just because people thought there might be a shortage and so bought everything they could see creating a self-fulfilling prophesy.

General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: May 12, 2022, 06:28:31 AM »
...Are you advocating us to engage in copyright infringement?

No. I want you to pay the $19.95 as advertised, because unless you pay for something you can't believe it is legitimate. But while that transaction is under way, you can look at the free streams to learn what you should know.
Please justify why it is necessary to pay for something for it to be legitimate?  And are you also stating that if you pay for something then it must be legitimate? Given that I'm not paying anything to read your posts - does that mean I shouldn't believe them?

General Comments / Re: The Jan 6 Commission
« on: April 05, 2022, 01:29:34 PM »
Your contention is that a President is required to document all "official business" in a permanent record?

That would appear to be what this says (a slightly better link I think than the previous one):


I don't know if it's true or not but I heard that since elected, President Biden hasn't had any direct communication with the leadership of Ukraine.
That much I'm pretty sure is false:

and in the reporting of Saturday's conversations Zelensky uses the words "another phone call with POTUS" indicating that there has been prior communication.

General Comments / Re: Do Republicans know what defamation/libel is?
« on: February 21, 2022, 06:55:36 AM »
To paraphrase the Bard, "Will no one rid me of this troublesome VP?"
"troublesome" -> "turbulent" and apparently not Shakespeare but Robert Dodsley (1740).  But according to wikipedia the earlier version of that line from Edward Grim who saw Becket murdered is good too "What miserable drones and traitors have I nurtured and promoted in my household who let their lord be treated with such shameful contempt by a low-born VP (cleric)!"

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