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General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: November 06, 2020, 01:27:00 PM »
I think the main difference between this year and 16 is that the voters in 20 had had four years of Trump in action to consider.

Clinton in 16 was an underwhelming candidate, neck deep in the swamp. So is Biden. Except this year enough people had seen Trump's true colors and went the other way.

The social democratic vote is still underestimated because the beuracracy in both parties are terrified of it, but if the right message is put forth to vote *for* something instead of *against* something in Georgia it'll be a tighter campaign then some think.

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General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: November 06, 2020, 12:42:14 PM »
It sounds like the Secret Service has now called it for Biden...

Or they take into account the general atmosphere when allocating their resources.

There are crazies on both sides, yes, but it's the Trump figurehead actively creating a narrative of democracy being overturned via cheating and corruption. There's only one side desperately throwing out sparks that could set off a zealot bonfire and it's not only brown people who are able to get into the mindset that it's okay if they die so long as they take out some of the Enemy.


That being said if Biden and his camp possess half a brain they will have employed a legion of private security long before now for precisely this reason.

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Well, that little speech was quite a thing, wasn't it? You could see the toys getting thrown out of the pram.

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General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: November 05, 2020, 08:22:35 PM »
Pack it up and go home, everyone.

Humans undeniably have human nature, therefore Noel has won the argument.

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General Comments / Re: Colorado Prop 113
« on: November 05, 2020, 08:03:28 PM »
Well, it passed and if we look at it it's quite a doozy.
It basically acts as a bootstrapping bypass of the Electoral College.

This is old news.  Where you been?  It's the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.  16 States have already passed the measure.  Goes all the way back to 2007.  There is a big question about the constitutionality of the matter.  If it ever does pass it will end up with SCOTUS.  The agreement can also basically be pulled out of.  They have about 200 electoral votes tied up already.  More important the Colorado are votes in Ohio, Virginia, and Pennsylvania.

Honestly, I didn't know and thanks for passing the info on.

I'm curious on the basis of it being unconstitutional though. You'd think state's rights include how they choose to allocate their electoral votes. It's definitely not an issue of needing to  cleave to local election results or the existence of rogue electors wouldn't be a thing.

And of course if the state got tired of it they could vote it away.

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General Comments / Colorado Prop 113
« on: November 05, 2020, 07:34:25 PM »
Well, it passed and if we look at it it's quite a doozy.

It basically acts as a bootstrapping bypass of the Electoral College. It promises that if states adding up to 270 electoral votes also take up the compact, that Colorado pledges their electoral votes to the national popular vote winner.

Now people may get skeptical about that coming about but the funny thing about propositions that let's them continue to surprise us is that when you're voting they don't have an R or a D attached to them. So people who brainlessly vote straight ticket actually have to step back and think a moment. And I think this is something that could definitely catch on.

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If you remove all the votes that didn't vote for me then I totally won.

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General Comments / Re: Predictions and thoughts on the Biden Presidency
« on: November 05, 2020, 06:49:41 PM »
Remove the six seats. I can't recall how long it's been but the size of the House hasn't changed in quite a while and if Arizona gaining a Rep and an electoral vote due to a census isn't a big deal I don't see why changing the proportion of Reps due to a new state would be.

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General Comments / Re: Predictions and thoughts on the Biden Presidency
« on: November 05, 2020, 06:47:21 PM »
What were the entry "requirements" for, let's say, Ohio? Nebraska? California?

And I have little to no respect for people who know they're going to lose an election and therefore decline to participate  because they're aware they can't win and are just looking to make the election look illegitimate.

"If you don't vote, you can't complain."

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General Comments / Re: Predictions and thoughts on the Biden Presidency
« on: November 05, 2020, 06:08:37 PM »
Christ.

I am sick and tired of hearing people complaining about "new states." The process for that is perfectly outlined in the friggen Constitution and it is what it is. If the process goes through then it's done.

You know the last time people started getting real shirty about new states being added and their Senatorial impact? Pretty sure it was when people were worried about Northern anti-slavery states outweighing Southern pro-slavery states. The South got real upset. First we had to have some compromise they made me memorise in high school and I forgot a week later then we had a civil war over it.

Fact is the Senate is proportioned precisely to allow smaller states to have bigger impact and I think it's pretty rich listening to people who have defended and traded on that for what are likely literal decades get their panties in a bunch because they're assuming the new states just wouldn't think like they do.

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General Comments / Re: Predictions and thoughts on the Biden Presidency
« on: November 05, 2020, 05:56:50 PM »
Shout out to Martha McSally who somehow managed to fill both of her state's Senatorial seats and promptly turned them over to the opposition party.

Can we move her to Georgia and let her work her magic? Is that allowed? /s

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General Comments / Re: Polling Analysis
« on: November 05, 2020, 05:47:57 PM »
And I'll just say it's pretty funny that the "legalise it," crowd somehow never came under the umbrella of the, "Screw the feds, state's rights, people have inherent choices about their own bodies and choices in life," crowd.

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General Comments / Re: Polling Analysis
« on: November 05, 2020, 05:42:56 PM »
Have to wonder how much of the "Arizona surprise" was a consequence of Californians moving to Arizona over the past 8 months as a consequence of the Covid lockdowns.

Or a proposition being up for voting, that being, "Should we allow recreational cannabis?"

It's anecdotal but based upon the people I saw growing up that is something that would have motivated them to get into the polling booth. Them being younger voters who, since they were there anyway, signed on to "Duck Trump."

Younger voters swing wildly liberal yet they're pansies who can't be arsed to actually vote on the day of. Well, for the most part. It's why the political establishment as a whole discounts them and why Bernie couldn't get past the primaries.

In a battleground state all it can take is a small nudge and I have a feeling this surprise may well have come out of that proposition.

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General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: November 05, 2020, 01:05:12 PM »
And to say that the observers are not able to stand watch over all of the mail in ballots and verify the signature of each one is just obtuse. What makes those observers qualified to verify those signatures?

They saw something someone posted on Facebook.

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General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: November 05, 2020, 12:44:49 PM »
The mental gymnastics coming forth here are making the Hillary camp's increasingly desperate defense of Michigan in 16 look like amateur time.

Eta - Major props to Cherry for being a true blue conservative who thinks Obama is just the worst and yet has calmly acknowledged the result and just asked how we think a Biden Presidency/Republican Senate is going to unfold.

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General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: November 04, 2020, 12:33:48 PM »
First of all, you demanded it so obviously because you did I'm now contractually obliged to listen up.

I formally REQUEST, PLEASE, with all due respect and admiration, for you to lighten up, not "listen up". Or at least drink less coffee. 

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You're just a lower tier *censored* unwilling to take a side and properly happy to run in there and take advantage of what did work out.

I find this highly insulting.  I am NOT a lower tier *censored*.  I am a High High tier *censored*.  I am the highest tiered *censored* on this board.  Who is the bigger *censored* than me?  Is there no-one? 

And I did take a side.  I voted.  But I can objectively watch an election without letting my "side" effect my judgement.  It is true that my general philosophy is that all people, which includes both Democrats and Republicans, are pretty crazy, in proportion to how hard they take a "side".

Well obviously. You all should probably know me by now. I do not at all trust myself or anything I might say. I never trust myself for anything lol. That doesn't mean what I said. Just didn't half the back-up.

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General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: November 04, 2020, 09:40:33 AM »
Hmmm... I think people need to take a nap.

I sometimes do but I feel it's a bit rude to just say it out in public whilst pretending something else.

Also. "Someone need's a nap." There is no other explanation or introduction that is...

Also you really grinded my gears on that, thinking I could have had a word with you but yeah, we all need to protect each other nowdays.

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General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: November 04, 2020, 09:38:08 AM »
Hmmm... I think people need to take a nap.

I sometimes do but I feel it's a bit rude to just say it out in public whilst pretending something else.

Also. "Someone need's a nap." There is no other explanation or introduction that is...

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General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: November 04, 2020, 09:27:59 AM »
Please. Pick a *censored*ing lane.

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General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: November 04, 2020, 09:25:50 AM »
First of all, you demanded it so obviously because you did I'm now contractually obliged to listen up. You did afterall say thanks for that, I had trouble listening up before you came along. Thanks for your thanks!

You're up in here looking to make fun of Dems and, if they give you the opportunity, Reps due to the election. We all understand lol. You're just a lower tier *censored* unwilling to take a side and properly happy to run in there and take advantage of what did work out.

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This is a fraud on the American public. This is an embarrassment to our country. We were getting ready to win this election. Frankly, we did win this election,

Trump at 2am while ballots are still being counted in close races. I can't believe that many of you don't see how absolutely dangerous this man is to our nation.

They're used to it by now, they think he's telling the truth, and most importantly he's been putting their judges in place. If we were going to swing them it would have happened a while ago. They are who they are.

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General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: November 04, 2020, 09:05:40 AM »
With all the claims about democratic voter fraud. Can the Republicans here state clearly that Trump exceeding the polls by around 4% indicates that Democrats do not engage in any type of wide spread voter fraud?

I for one think it''s obvious on the face of it that the Demoncrats cheated the vote by 6 percent.

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General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: November 04, 2020, 08:54:36 AM »
Also you're telling us all to dig in and also complaining about the lack of responses. Don't worry, sweetheart, I'm pretty sure most of us will give just the reaction you want, no matter who wins.

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General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: November 04, 2020, 08:51:44 AM »
I'm just trying to have a polite conversation, and yet you keep condescending to me. And yet you're the one complaining about people being...atheists? Believing in God? Friendly advice, your message there is a bit confused. If you were annoyed with both of those categories I could probably give you a thumbs up.

I'm not quite sure why you think he's destined to win in Penn  or Michigan.

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General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: November 04, 2020, 08:35:08 AM »
Damn, y'all got quiet.  I know not everybody went to bed like me at 8:30pm CT.

I think it's we've all made our stances known and there's just not much to go on yet.


I think the major story here is that Trump has overperformed the polls.  It's not going to be a Biden blowout.  So sorry, Greg.   :'(   It's going to be a squeaker either way.  Honestly, right now, it looks like Trump is going to win, which is a yuge story for Le Chattegrabber and his Grabbettes.  Nate Silver is still awake.  He probably looks like Bill the Cat at this point.

You really think that? Biden took AZ. It's not Cali or Texas or anything but that's eleven votes most all Trumptistas thought were solidly in their pocket. You can tell from their reactions when their own pocket media were the first to declare AZ for Biden. They were *not* happy.

No one tends to give a *censored* about Western States that don't start with C or T but these eleven votes actually dramatically shrink Trump's way to victory.

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General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: November 04, 2020, 08:13:10 AM »
What's funny is that Puerto Rico could have been a state a very long time ago, it's just the Puerto Ricans keep politely declining. And God forbid DC be given representatives, it's not like their population is bigger then certain Republican states who get to have *their* two Senators.

The Court thing is morally dubious, I'll grant that. And yet, not at all unConstitutional and probably could rub cheeks with the idea that an open slot in February needs to wait until after the election but one in September needs to be filled RIGHT NOW IT'S THE RIGHT OF THE PRESIDENT.

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General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: November 04, 2020, 08:07:40 AM »
Damn, y'all got quiet.  I know not everybody went to bed like me at 8:30pm CT.

I think it's we've all made our stances known and there's just not much to go on yet.

I will say having been raised in Arizona I'm feeling pretty proud of the old place right now.

Although, I think the only reason Biden took Arizona is because this election had a proposition up to legalize recreational cannabis use. I guarantee that brought out voters who otherwise wouldn't have bothered and, while they were there, *censored* Trump.

Saw people talking about how they think that contributed to Michigan in 16 as well.

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General Comments / Re: covid-19 outside the US
« on: November 04, 2020, 08:01:20 AM »
What we're talking about here is eugenics. Morally we should defend the vulnerable more, but I think we all know round about the fourth or fifth shutdown you're going to have a healthy majority willing to just let the people who will die, die.

You should be aware that genetic testing to determine vulnerability to Covid19 also delves into the domain of eugenics too. It effectively creates two classes of people by means of their DNA if we're dealing in a situation where a vaccine proves not to be viable.

I think the idea of a genetic test for covid susceptibility is so far out as to be a pipe dream.

The only reason we can even speculate that vulnerability is partially genetic are seeing how it hits some families particularly hard.

What it will end up being is some very minor thing that allows the virus access to cells a bit more efficiently, and while I'm certainly not a virologist or pathology expert I'm assuming here that our mastery of genetics doesn't allow us to pinpoint that one small stretch of DNA quite so easily.

Although I might be wrong. I can't remember if they ever nailed down why 5-10 percent of Northern Europeans are effectively immune to the HIV virus.

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General Comments / Re: read any good books lately?
« on: November 03, 2020, 05:41:53 AM »
I've been rereading the Dark Tower series recently and to go back through it with an adult's understanding of the issues in the text and beyond that what the author himself was dealing with in his personal life makes it much more interesting.

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General Comments / Re: covid-19 outside the US
« on: November 03, 2020, 03:45:50 AM »
Sorry. Want to make it clear I understand that like the only symptom Covid *isn't* known for is sniffles, I was using the term as a euphemism.

A mild fever or light cough would be the better description.

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General Comments / Re: covid-19 outside the US
« on: November 03, 2020, 03:42:13 AM »
It's appeared now. It's going to kill *so many* of us. How are we going to respond?

Beyond a potential vaccine that you get "boosters" for at least once every 6 months... The only other avenue is to determine which genetic markers indicate likely positive outcomes vs likely negative outcomes from a full-on Covid-19 infection and start trying to work out how to best protect those that are genetically vulnerable from exposure. They basically get to be treated like everyone else with "compromised immune systems" when Covid19 is known to be in the area.

This is what we should do. You know, like, morally.

I think we all know what's actually going to happen.

From the very beginning there have been voices urging the population to just let the virus spread and do it's thing. This virus gives some people sniffles and cuts like a knife through butter into entire families, all depending on the genetic makeup.

What we're talking about here is eugenics. Morally we should defend the vulnerable more, but I think we all know round about the fourth or fifth shutdown you're going to have a healthy majority willing to just let the people who will die, die.

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General Comments / Re: covid-19 outside the US
« on: November 02, 2020, 02:57:20 PM »
We're not immune. I say that as humans. There are a very large amount of viruses just waiting to take a bite. Live handling practices obviously don't help whether it's Spanish Flu from American pigs or CV-19 from Chinese live bat-for-dinner markets.

Honestly? We as a species are primed to have the "right" virus take a chunk out of the population and let the best of us try to care for them and in the process catch the disease.

It's appeared now. It's going to kill *so many* of us. How are we going to respond?

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General Comments / Re: covid-19 outside the US
« on: November 02, 2020, 02:36:56 PM »
And as much as I don't want to Lambert the conversation up, consider this.

Fifteen to twenty thousand years ago a new virus emerges. It spreads easily and some people die easily and others get a few sniffles.

Those with the wrong genetic defense, they die. The rest of them live to have descendents joke about someone complaining about the common cold.

Is that the point we're approaching now?

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General Comments / Re: covid-19 outside the US
« on: November 02, 2020, 02:19:09 PM »
How did the great Sweden experiment work out?  I remember they went full open back at the beginning of summer, right?  And they eventually leveled off?

Are they seeing the same upswing as the rest of Europe?

That experiment was worthy and something I was looking forward to seeing the results of.

Unfortunately Covid is the gift that keeps on giving and from the looks of it it's similar to the common cold in that you can get it, get the antibodies, you'll be immune for a while and then six to twelve months later you're ripe to catch it again. Herd immunity isn't going to be a valid defense mechanism.

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General Comments / Re: covid-19 outside the US
« on: November 02, 2020, 11:15:18 AM »
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The same things that make winter flu season were always going to bring a sharp increase in covid cases

Interesting data coming from the Southern Hemisphere which flu season is coming to a end
The numbers of those infected with the flu are way down. in some places 75% lower the previous years.

The hypothesis is that mask wearing and social distancing for COVID-19 may have kept the number of influenza cases way down south of the equator

I'm not surprised. As others have said, even a basic understanding of virus prevention methods among the population is going to reduce virus transmission, no matter what virus. In countries without partisan groups not using masks or adhering to social distancing in order to own the libs, I'm completely unsurprised that flu transmission saw a sharp decrease. I'm pretty sure people around the world have seen a sharp decrease in the common cold to go along with it.

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General Comments / Re: covid-19 outside the US
« on: November 02, 2020, 10:51:06 AM »
As a follow on the details make the decision of Boris Johnson look asinine.

He's shutting down all nonessential businesses and ordering people to stay within their homes. Okay. If you believe the virus is that much a danger, that's understandable.

Schools and universities are still open.

What the literal *censored*.

Primary schools, since they've existed, have in medical terms been the best place ever for everything from lice to polio to spread throughout a community.

It's either dangerous enough to shut down the economy in which case you do it *right,* or it's not. We're getting the worst of both worlds here.

I swear. Friggin Tories.

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General Comments / Re: covid-19 outside the US
« on: October 31, 2020, 09:25:30 PM »
The same things that make winter flu season were always going to bring a sharp increase in covid cases. People were saying this back in March.

In a place like the US where it's a partisan issue and the right wing takes pride in their stance on methods to reduce virus spread, the fun is already starting. In countries where the people are slightly more sane, it's a slow uptick and, yes, they're attempting to reduce the impact.

The UK as usual is a mishmash of Europe and the US and even our Conservative government has just announced a month long nationwide lock down.

All of that aside, how do a bunch of chodes complaining about their civil right to give coronavirus to their grandmother give you an in to complain about the European social safety net? Don't worry, it's still here and for the most part still working, the attempted Americanization of it by right wingers notwithstanding. If you're in a bad place and need assistance in any way Europe is still 100x better a place to be then the US.

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: October 10, 2020, 11:22:49 PM »
Look through Crunch's posts on the matter, there's some gold there.

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Unless Bill Barr indicts these people for crimes, the greatest political crime in the history of our country, then we're going to get little satisfaction unless I win and we'll just have to go, because I won't forget it.

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But, it's still not that easy, you have a 'deep state,' you have a group of people that don't want to have documents shown, which tells you bad thing, you know, but they -- they have to give them ultimately and we're getting them, you know.

So, Trump is, what, commanding his AG to prosecute people for their involvement in the FBI counterintelligence operation against Russian interference in the 2016 election? And, what, Barr, his own appointee, is also a member of the "deep state" apparatus?

This man is deeply troubled.  Where is his family?

https://www.theonion.com/tag/trump-boys

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General Comments / Re: read any good books lately?
« on: October 04, 2020, 11:13:18 AM »
I'm unable to edit my response out, but my goat was got. I apologize for getting all wound up.

Fine. But I did recommend plenty of books, but you refused that and fixated on one post about why a few books were hard to find. I know the reason bothers you, sorry.

If you can give us a list of decent works without bringing Obama, Ayers, or Satan into it, I'm more then willing to listen.

Good books.

That's what this thread is about. Even if you're only recommending them to flip off the Libs and trick us, what I hope you can understand is while I may disagree with you, I've always really enjoyed reading and trying to understand what the other side has to offer. Just basic human curiosity.

No one wants to hear how Obama and Ayers conspired to do something really evil and that's why this book is important.  If the book is as well written as you make out, I'm sure that will come out anyway. Please. Just recommend a book and offer to talk about what it meant afterwards. If no one else does, I promise I will.

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: October 03, 2020, 04:55:50 PM »
Eh. No one else is going to say it but I will. I hope he dies.

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General Comments / Re: read any good books lately?
« on: October 01, 2020, 08:02:24 PM »
I'm unable to edit my response out, but my goat was got. I apologise for getting all wound up.

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General Comments / Re: read any good books lately?
« on: October 01, 2020, 07:31:12 PM »
And if you wanted us to read something, you should have just said, "This writing was good, check it out guys!"

You know the best way to *censored* up a non political discussion?

Walk that *censored* in with how the Dems tried to kill Jesus or something.

No, face it. You just don't want to entertain the idea that book-writing has become an income stream for politicians and analysts. All the more reason to point out what books to recommend, and which ones not to.

No, dick. All I wanted was just one freaking thread where some jackass didn't bring his conspiracy theories about Obama and Ayers and the Je- sorry, about *Soros* into it. I'm sorry that you're unable to recommend a good book without *censored*ting the thread up.

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General Comments / Re: Town halls and debates 2020
« on: October 01, 2020, 02:57:18 PM »
I'm personally 50/50 on whether there will even be a next debate.

Trump walked out thinking he was the *censored* but even his closest people had to tell him that he didn't come out looking too good. At this point I can absolutely see him deciding to pass off the other two debates and trying to blame Biden in the process.

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General Comments / Re: read any good books lately?
« on: October 01, 2020, 02:50:21 PM »
You know when I think on it the Dark Tower series is something that I believe could be enhanced with a decent...reader? Actor? Whatever. I can envision a universe where I enjoy some guy reading that story into my ears.

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General Comments / Re: Town halls and debates 2020
« on: October 01, 2020, 02:09:20 PM »
What continues to astound me is that this is a 74 year old man we're all watching. And he really does react the same way a four year old would if you took away their toy.

There's no great mystery in explaining how and why Trump does what he does. The answer is simple. He's *spoiled*.

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General Comments / Re: read any good books lately?
« on: October 01, 2020, 12:16:24 AM »
And if you wanted us to read something, you should have just said, "This writing was good, check it out guys!"

You know the best way to *censored* up a non political discussion?

Walk that *censored* in with how the Dems tried to kill Jesus or something.

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General Comments / Re: read any good books lately?
« on: October 01, 2020, 12:05:38 AM »
...Newt Gingrich...has a new book now, "Burning Down the House" (https://www.amazon.com/Burning-Down-House-Gingrich-Republican/dp/1594206651)

...We were just all talking about books and stuff. Or maybe how audio books are *censored*. Let's not politic it up, yeah?

Public it up? Are you unable to understand what you read and write? Almost everyone here who responded in this thread talked about quality of writing and the authors' predilections. One of us wrote about the novelty of the concepts. How the characters may be cardboard and sexist, the dialog atrocious (huge amounts of poorly written dialog); tons of really bad inner dialog; mediocre plotting; etc.

I guess I shouldn't have brought in the publishing houses and how they put out some of those bad books while ignoring better writers? Sorry. How does a writer like Samuel R, Delany write hundreds of pages of stream of consciousness with no punctuation or capitalization and get the editors to put in all that "techie stuff?" I find that interesting. Most people cannot read [i[Dhalgren[/i], yet the few readers I've come across that read it to the end saw something in it.  Contrariwise, no one ever read Jim Wright's book and said it was a real attempt at anything but a paycheck.

I just don't like that some librarians and publishers use their political biases to artificially raise bad books to best seller lists while obstructing better books from even getting published.

A different thing is what happened to Peter Wright, the Britisher who was the first intel scientists a lá "Q" in James Bond. His book, Spycatcher was actually banned in Great Britain, and he had to go to Australia to publish. His book has since been judged totally accurate and truthful with no government secrecy violations., and is now legal in the UK. He was there at the founding of MI-5 and MI-6, and besides running all the scientific areas, was put in charge of ferreting out moles that penetrated all the way to Downing Street. Incredible read, but hard to get published. He had to write the book to survive, because when he was first asked to move his career into Intelligence, he was promised a generous retirement income, but since it was a handshake agreement, the government reneged when he retired. His book allowed him to buy a little farm and have a life. Highly recommended.

Yes. Exactly. You *shouldn't* have, yet you did anyway.

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: September 30, 2020, 10:31:50 PM »
Something something *it was really the Americans spreading the Spanish flu!!!*

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