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General Comments / Re: Ukraine
« on: September 24, 2019, 01:50:49 PM »
Ultimately, however, any criticism of Biden in this context is a classic "Whataboutism."
If what Biden did was illegal/immoral/high crime, then that probably means what Trump did is, too.
If what Biden did was "politics as usual," then there should be no criticism of Biden's behavior.
And, of course, regardless of what Biden did or did not do, that has no bearing on Trump's behavior and whether it was a high crime or not.
You know, "whataboutism" is the reason why Trump would get away with shooting someone on 5th Avenue.
Imagine Trump standing on 5th Avenue with a smoking gun in his hand and a body at his feet. His supporters would immediately surround him and start arguing:
"The Clintons murdered many people, like Vincent Foster, Seth Rich and so many others, and they were never prosecuted for their crimes. So why do we suddenly want Donald prosecuted for shooting this man? Politicians get away with murder all the time. It's a normal thing in American politics. The only reason people want to prosecute Donald is because he is a Republican and is getting Republican programs instituted, like the Wall, and the Democrats can't stand it. Why, if Obama had shot someone on 5th Avenue, the mainstream media and Congress would have said practically nothing about it! You know it's true! This is just a political witch hunt like all the other witch hunts that Trump has endured. We should be investigating Congress and the mainstream media about their corrupt use of their powers, not Trump!"
And they'd say this even as the blood puddled around them and soaked into the soles of their shoes.
Let's find out if Trump really did threaten to withhold American funds, approved by Congress, in order to pressure the Ukrainian President to come up with dirt on Trump's political opponent. Because at the end of the day, that is what is really important now, not what Biden did.
If Biden did wrong, prosecute him for it. But that has nothing to do with whether Trump did wrong or not.
If what Biden did was illegal/immoral/high crime, then that probably means what Trump did is, too.
If what Biden did was "politics as usual," then there should be no criticism of Biden's behavior.

And, of course, regardless of what Biden did or did not do, that has no bearing on Trump's behavior and whether it was a high crime or not.
You know, "whataboutism" is the reason why Trump would get away with shooting someone on 5th Avenue.
Imagine Trump standing on 5th Avenue with a smoking gun in his hand and a body at his feet. His supporters would immediately surround him and start arguing:
"The Clintons murdered many people, like Vincent Foster, Seth Rich and so many others, and they were never prosecuted for their crimes. So why do we suddenly want Donald prosecuted for shooting this man? Politicians get away with murder all the time. It's a normal thing in American politics. The only reason people want to prosecute Donald is because he is a Republican and is getting Republican programs instituted, like the Wall, and the Democrats can't stand it. Why, if Obama had shot someone on 5th Avenue, the mainstream media and Congress would have said practically nothing about it! You know it's true! This is just a political witch hunt like all the other witch hunts that Trump has endured. We should be investigating Congress and the mainstream media about their corrupt use of their powers, not Trump!"
And they'd say this even as the blood puddled around them and soaked into the soles of their shoes.

Let's find out if Trump really did threaten to withhold American funds, approved by Congress, in order to pressure the Ukrainian President to come up with dirt on Trump's political opponent. Because at the end of the day, that is what is really important now, not what Biden did.
If Biden did wrong, prosecute him for it. But that has nothing to do with whether Trump did wrong or not.