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Pete at Home

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Why I wish I could vote for Hillary
« on: March 16, 2016, 09:20:27 AM »
When it comes down to who looks and speaks like a president, Hillary wins hands down.  Here she is, beaming in a moment of triumph: 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35820350  check the vid if you can do the data

contrast her actual demeanor to what the circle of idiot-newsboys says:

Faux News' Brit Hume claims she's "shouting angrily."  Uh no, Brit, she's smiling, and speaking exuberantly (albeit hoarsely)

Howard Kurtz: repeats the shouting claim, and suggests "a more conversational tone" might be more appropriate.  I guess he likes his women seated in the sun room with a cup of tea in their hands, pinky pointed upwards.  Howard, this is a victory rally in front of a cheering crowd.

Politico's Glenn Thrush repeats the "shouting" claim, contrasting it to what he claims was her topic of "love and kindness."  Except Hillary wasn't talking about love and kindness.  She was delivering the message that she won the night, looks poised to win the primary, and expects to win the election as well.  Nothing in the video says anything about "love and kindness." 

And MSNBC's Joe Scarboro reminds Hillary to "smile."  Are you blind, Joe? She's smiling the whole time.

Take home?  These male newsies seem incapable of looking at a woman's face, or listening to what she's saying.  I think they must just look at her tits and here [wah wah wah] like the adults in a Charlie brown cartoon.  Nothing but the tone of her voice.

With that sort of crap out there, I can appreciate why Hillary's basically written off nonblack males, like Romney's 47%.  She must figure that we're all sexist brutes and won't hear what she's saying.  And her "vote for me because you're female, and vote for me because you're black or Hispanic" seems to work for her, better than Romney's "vote for me because you're privileged."  I guess Hillary doesn't talk to voters as if we were grown ups, because the popularity of Brit Hume, Joe Scarboro, et al, strongly suggests that we're not.

AI Wessex

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Re: Why I wish I could vote for Hillary
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2016, 09:27:41 AM »
Yeah, that's sad.  I don't expect that kind of dismissive criticism to last, though, as it's more sour grapes than anything else.  In her core she's more like Margaret Thatcher than any of bevy of average intelligence Short Skirt blondes on the shows you mentioned (other than Mika who is blonde but is occasionally smarter and always better dressed).  Except for Samantha Bee nobody has commented that Cruz always looks like he's covered in slime, like the just-born baby monster in Alien.  If you look closely you can see that Cruz never smiles. I think it's the use it or lose it principle of muscle tone.

Pete at Home

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Re: Why I wish I could vote for Hillary
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2016, 09:44:21 AM »
But hasn't that precise sort of dismissive criticism already lasted since the 1990s?  I remember when some PR chump actually got her to put on an apron and bake cookies, to try to pull a Martha Stewart back when she was first Lady.  It made me angry, reminded me of folks who pressured me to pretend to like football so I would seem more masculine.

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Re: Why I wish I could vote for Hillary
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2016, 10:08:09 AM »
When it comes down to who looks and speaks like a president, Hillary wins hands down.

She speaks like a president sometimes, and then sometimes when she's not campaigning she speaks like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmIRYvJQeHM

This is who we're talking about.


AI Wessex

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Re: Why I wish I could vote for Hillary
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2016, 10:13:18 AM »
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But hasn't that precise sort of dismissive criticism already lasted since the 1990s?
That is so 90's.  We're post hetero, even post gender now. The question is whether she's got the cojones, and I think she's collected several sets along the way.

Fenring, not sure what your point is.  She's not President and never has been, so finding old comments where she either speaks in a relaxed manner or in a direct appeal to her audience doesn't mean much (to me).
« Last Edit: March 16, 2016, 10:18:07 AM by AI Wessex »

Pete at Home

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Re: Why I wish I could vote for Hillary
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2016, 10:17:07 AM »
She'd not be the first prez to sound like a usurping dictator.  Hell, JFJ quoted Mussolini outright, and most Americans still think that "ask not what your country can do for you but for what you can do for your country" originated with JFK.

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Re: Why I wish I could vote for Hillary
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2016, 10:34:03 AM »
Fenring, not sure what your point is.  She's not President and never has been, so finding old comments where she either speaks in a relaxed manner or in a direct appeal to her audience doesn't mean much (to me).

Pete got the point. You don't get to speak like a usurping dictator when you're off the clock and then put on your other face when you're running for President. At least, not without some people noticing it ;)

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Re: Why I wish I could vote for Hillary
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2016, 11:33:33 AM »
Blame the US education system.  I had a british O level pass, so I recognize an allusion to what Caesar said while leaving 1/3 of Gaul's population dead and hauling another 1/3 back to Rome as slaves.

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Re: Why I wish I could vote for Hillary
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2016, 11:40:58 AM »
an allusion to what Caesar said while leaving 1/3 of Gaul's population dead and hauling another 1/3 back to Rome as slaves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Zela

Not quite, but close enough.

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Re: Why I wish I could vote for Hillary
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2016, 11:46:55 AM »
Damn.  I was way off.  I thought he'd written it in his 8 volume The Gallic Wars