Author Topic: The FBI plot to kidnap Gov Whitmer  (Read 7490 times)

Aris Katsaris

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Re: The FBI plot to kidnap Gov Whitmer
« Reply #50 on: April 09, 2022, 03:52:35 PM »
However, when it comes down to it, even if the agents started the plot, these guys went along with it. They did not leave, they did not report to the police that the group was planning something illegal.

That's pretty much what 'entrapment' is about.

You, hopefully, don't want the authorities to be creating criminals just so you can capture the criminals that wouldn't have existed without you creating them. Talk about an abuse of power and a counterproductive waste of taxpayers' money!

Which means you shouldn't be wanting the agents to be "starting" a plot. You shouldn't want agents to be *creating* criminals, just so they can capture criminals. You don't want your firemen to be arsonists, you don't want your pest-exterminators to be pest-breeders, and you don't want your cops to be entrappers.

Encouraging someone into a crime, even when the benefits you plan to extract from it is arresting them for the crime (rather than the fruits of said crime itself), should be itself a crime equivalent to the crime encouraged.

TheDrake

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Re: The FBI plot to kidnap Gov Whitmer
« Reply #51 on: April 10, 2022, 04:22:10 PM »
Alright, the verdicts are in! What happened?

Not guilty.

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Jurors acquitted two men Friday accused of plotting to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and deadlocked on charges against the two alleged ringleaders, delivering a staggering blow to the government in one of the largest domestic terrorism cases in recent U.S. history.

It was all BS, just a plot by the FBI to sway the election.

Another trial coming for Fox and friend. Deadlocked jury seems to nullify the complete BS you're trying to sell.

Still not guilty. Say whatever you want, not guilty is the reality. It was an fbi operation, the fbi orchestrated the kidnapping and rooed a few rubes into it. All designed to sway the election. Say it with me, “not guilty”.

We all know juries are incapable of acquitting someone guilty. But, in this case, no they didn't orchestrate anything. We've been over it dozens of times. Fox dreamed it up and actively promoted it. While they might have remained daydreams if the FBI hadn't provided him with means, that's not the same thing as cooking it up. These other guys, maybe it wasn't clear. Maybe many of the jurors were sympathetic because they also thought Whitmer was a tyrant. Maybe these guys are heroes to them.