Author Topic: Truth Social (Read 15414 times)

msquared · « **on:** October 21, 2021, 12:18:36 PM »

So Trump has a new site out called Truth Social. It promises open, free and honest global conversation.

As long as it is not a criticism of Trump.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-free-speech-app-prohibits-135603557.html

Free speech as long at they agree with it.

TheDrake · « **Reply #1 on:** October 21, 2021, 12:37:52 PM »

Every site truly offering free unedited speech quickly gets overrun as a haven for hate speech, porn, and other content most foul. Q into the storm talks about that on 8 chan where a supporter talks about shielding his wife from the site.

Imagine if Facebook banned accounts because they said bad things about Facebook.

I predict that there are enough clever Trump haters out there that this will be short lived. They will use all the tricks Breitbart commenters have mastered, like f¥ck. Moderators won't be able to keep up with the reports.

But hey, at least ornery has a new place to move to.

msquared · « **Reply #2 on:** October 22, 2021, 03:36:20 PM »

i wonder how long before Truth gets renamed Echo.

Wayward Son · « **Reply #3 on:** October 22, 2021, 05:05:41 PM »

I wonder how long before Trump copyright's the word "truth," so only he can use it?

msquared · « **Reply #4 on:** October 22, 2021, 07:54:25 PM »

Will Truth even get running.

Turns out they use a open source code called Mastadon. The issue is that part of the license to use Mastadon requires that the code and any changes be made open to the public, which is sort of what open source code is all about. But Truth says their site is proprietary, which violates the T&C of the open code. So once again Trump shows he can not act with in the rules, even when the product is free.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-accused-ripping-code-social-network-mastodon-truth-site-1641343

Also Truth requires members who have a problem with them to use arbitration to settle disputes while if the site has an issue with the member, they can sue in their home state. That seems fairly common for sites like this (like Facebook and Twitter), but Trump had a real problem with those requirements back when he was suing them. So the rules are only ok when he gets to use them in his favor.

My guess is Truth never goes live.

msquared · « **Reply #5 on:** October 25, 2021, 12:22:09 PM »

Wayward,

Were you kidding or not?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/looks-trump-trying-trademark-truthing-012008712.html

TheDrake · « **Reply #6 on:** October 25, 2021, 01:00:36 PM »

He forgot truthiness

Wayward Son · « **Reply #7 on:** October 25, 2021, 01:28:21 PM »

I was kidding.

wmLambert · « **Reply #8 on:** October 28, 2021, 08:30:43 PM »

Yeah. All you Democrat apologists want to do is devise a way to steal any open forum by inundating it with disinformation. Any attempt to forestall that is anathema to your cause.

The problem with the established social giants is how the owners block anything they disagree with. It is not the people that overcome the flow of information.

msquared · « **Reply #9 on:** October 29, 2021, 07:40:15 AM »

Wm
What about the fact they are not following the rules for the open source code they are using? Or that members are not able to criticize the forum?

Maybe it will work out. My guess is it never gets off the ground.

TheDrake · « **Reply #10 on:** October 29, 2021, 02:01:16 PM »

Or the fact that after all their cackling about bias, if they revealed their code we'd see massive thumbs on the promotion of certain content according to ideology? Or suppression of other ones?

Yes, the big guys suppress disinformation that is going to result in people put on ventilators, school board members getting threatened, racist recruitment, human trafficking, suicide and other things that are going to get people physically harmed.

Frankly, we're seeing that they did far too little.

Nobody is suppressing conservative objections to abortion, taxation, regulation, school prayer, or any other traditional sane conservative position.

They are shutting down qanon conspiracies, dangerous medical advice, advocating the violent overthrow of the government, and threatening violence against people.

wmLambert · « **Reply #11 on:** November 03, 2021, 05:33:34 PM »

Face it. The purpose of creating a place for simple communication is because Facebook, Tweets, and other big Tech are complicit tools of the Democrats. Sure you go look for reasons to stop any attempt to counter what big tech has already done. Small minds deflect.

msquared · « **Reply #12 on:** December 02, 2021, 09:23:59 AM »

Not a great start.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-truth-social-missed-projected-035102634.html

rightleft22 · « **Reply #13 on:** December 02, 2021, 11:38:08 AM »

Quote from: wmLambert on November 03, 2021, 05:33:34 PM

Face it. The purpose of creating a place for simple communication is because Facebook, Tweets, and other big Tech are complicit tools of the Democrats. Sure you go look for reasons to stop any attempt to counter what big tech has already done. Small minds deflect.

A convincing argument has been made that the use (manipulation) of Face book and twitter had a great deal to do with Trump's success.

The Democrat "Leadership" still don't get it. All those puzzled looks when asked questions about how their messaging is not just ineffective but so easily turned against them.

You have nothing to worry about wmLambert. You can count on the DEM to continue to undermine and undo themselves.

TheDrake · « **Reply #14 on:** December 07, 2021, 03:58:50 PM »

So Nunes is going to take over this turd?

msquared · « **Reply #15 on:** December 07, 2021, 04:10:58 PM »

Obviously well qualified.

wmLambert · « **Reply #16 on:** December 13, 2021, 08:30:20 PM »

Quote from: rightleft22 on December 02, 2021, 11:38:08 AM

...A convincing argument has been made that the use (manipulation) of Face book and twitter had a great deal to do with Trump's success.

Yes. That is why the Left had to target the successful communications he used. Bush 43 did not deign to argue with the complicit media, mistakenly thinking they would eventually get it right.

Face it, Trump is far smarter than his opponents. Look at this article to understand how brilliant his economic successes were, both at home and internationally: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/12/13/topline-for-candidates-there-is-only-one-donald-trump-and-economic-security-is-national-security/

The only way the Swamp has to counter him is by cheating.

TheDrake · « **Reply #17 on:** December 13, 2021, 09:42:14 PM »

Lambert, you are either the most brilliant and committed troll of all time, or cognitively impaired and delusional.

DJQuag · « **Reply #18 on:** December 21, 2021, 03:38:52 AM »

That's a bit harsh, Drake. I admire Lambert being involved on this medium at his age. Same way my Grandad who was born in the 1920's but had me on his lap showing me Commodore computers in the late 80's. And it's a bit harsh to just call him impaired or deluded and then call it a day. I get it, but if that's the tone we're going to set why don't we all just exchange Facebook or Twitter to make it more efficient?

If you think someone is being an idiot in the public square, best thing to do, if you can't be bothered to remind everyone *again* that they're an idiot, is to let them keep talking. If you try to drown them out you just lend them legitimacy.

msquared · « **Reply #19 on:** February 09, 2022, 12:29:27 PM »

So now it is going to go live at the end of March.

We will see if this ever gets off the ground.

TheDrake · « **Reply #20 on:** February 09, 2022, 02:59:52 PM »

Quote from: msquared on February 09, 2022, 12:29:27 PM

So now it is going to go live at the end of March.

We will see if this ever gets off the ground.

Sure. I hear JFK is going to be the first user, and the first week's festivities include a Proud Boys AMA.

msquared · « **Reply #21 on:** February 18, 2022, 09:56:43 AM »

Ok so Truth Social is up an running in Beat. But to sign up you have to give money to the NRSC in order to complete your sign up. Does not seem like a free site to me.

Wayward Son · « **Reply #22 on:** February 18, 2022, 10:54:43 AM »

Yes, but that money is tax-deductible--if you use Trump's old accounting firm.

Lloyd Perna · « **Reply #23 on:** February 18, 2022, 10:56:28 AM »

Fake news? I only see it for Pre order. I don't have an iphone so I can't test it.

Lloyd Perna · « **Reply #24 on:** February 18, 2022, 11:00:55 AM »

Ahh yes. Fake news. Signing up for the waiting list is free. If you want to pre-reserve your username you can make a $1 donation.

TheDrake · « **Reply #25 on:** February 18, 2022, 11:14:11 AM »

And have you ever seen any other site ever milk the public to reserve their usernames? For a service that doesn't exist? Twitter didn't do that, or twitch, or discord, or anybody. Just admit its shady AF.

Lloyd Perna · « **Reply #26 on:** February 18, 2022, 11:24:27 AM »

I suspect they are doing it specifically to piss off people like you and msquared. Were you really interested in signing up if there weren't a fee to reserve your username? Please forgive me if I don't take your fake outrage seriously.

msquared · « **Reply #27 on:** February 18, 2022, 11:42:01 AM »

I am not outraged. I am not even shocked. This is Trump. Does this surprise you? That something Trump is involved with is just a way to make even more money before it folds?

And it is not just money due the site. It is a political contribution. So a liberal who wanted to go onto the site has to support some Republican Senate person in order to get on the site.

I wonder if there are any election laws that control this.

msquared · « **Reply #28 on:** February 18, 2022, 12:01:40 PM »

The only real surprise to me is that it is not some Trump related group but the NRSC. And that it is just a 1 time fee that you would automatically be opted in to for doubling each time. Just like most of Trump's fund raisers.

TheDrake · « **Reply #29 on:** February 18, 2022, 12:16:18 PM »

I'm not outraged on my own behalf, I won't be joining. I'm outraged that they are going to milk another hundred thousand MAGA folks of money they could be using to buy bread.

TheDrake · « **Reply #30 on:** February 18, 2022, 12:55:08 PM »

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Conservative podcast host Wayne Dupree also told Reuters that he was among the platform's beta testers. Dupree said that there is currently no edit button.

"I can see my participation in Truth Social outgrowing Twitter because it seems I am not suppressed like I have been on Twitter, since 2016," Dupree said. "I want to share my single dad chronicles. I want my followers to see I am more than politics and I feel Truth Social is going to allow my audience to see me as Twitter purposely does not."

I'm looking at his twitter feed right now. It isn't banned. If the algorithm is adapting to the number of people who hate his stuff, that's another thing, but if you follow someone on twitter, you see all their posts. You click follow. Then you click notify. It's not mysterious.

Also, his statement that he wants people to see he's more than politics? Scroll through his feed and see if you can find anything not political.

I guess there is a bizarre conspiracy post about Bob Saget that rambles and goes nowhere.

Then there's this:

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Rudy Claims to Have “1,000 Pieces of Evidence” Stored In His “Den” That Could Destroy Hillary

The world's going to be a good place with this guy having a louder voice, for the few months that Truth Social manages to operate.

Lloyd Perna · « **Reply #31 on:** February 18, 2022, 01:14:03 PM »

It must be nice to be on the side that currently controls what you are allowed to say and not say. You dont have to worry about your ~~misinformation, lies and hate~~ free speech getting you disappeared.

rightleft22 · « **Reply #32 on:** February 18, 2022, 01:24:43 PM »

Free Speech is under attack from the right and the left if for different reasonings
More and more the Right and Left divisions are merging to bring about the same ends neither wants

Lloyd Perna · « **Reply #33 on:** February 18, 2022, 01:38:44 PM »

Really? Please point out some popular leftists that have been banned from social media.

Here's some of the the centrist/right leaning ones that have.
James Woods
Diamond and Silk
Milo Yiannopoulos
Laura Loomer
Steven Crowder
Michelle Malkin
Jack Posobiec
Brandon Straka
Republican Party chair Ronna McDaniel
GOP Rep. Mark Meadows
GOP Rep. Jim Jordan
GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz
Millie Weaver aka Mellinial Millie
Independent Video Journalist Ford Fischer

rightleft22 · « **Reply #34 on:** February 18, 2022, 01:48:55 PM »

The right uses different means to cancel ideas, books, identities but the end is the same

Lloyd Perna · « **Reply #35 on:** February 18, 2022, 02:07:33 PM »

What means?

rightleft22 · « **Reply #36 on:** February 18, 2022, 03:16:47 PM »

Quote from: Lloyd Perna on February 18, 2022, 02:07:33 PM

What means?

by canceling them, banning books is a means of canceling, demanding only positive history be taught is a form of canceling
Denying rights to a group a people that identity differently then the 'norm' is a form of canceling.

In the end both right and left are tying to cancel what they don't like.
The biggest canceling strategy is try stop people from taking about and pointing out the fact they are canceling anyone or anything.

TheDrake · « **Reply #37 on:** February 18, 2022, 03:31:42 PM »

Quote from: Lloyd Perna on February 18, 2022, 01:38:44 PM

Really? Please point out some popular leftists that have been banned from social media.

Here's some of the the centrist/right leaning ones that have.
James Woods
Diamond and Silk
Milo Yiannopoulos
Laura Loomer
Steven Crowder
Michelle Malkin
Jack Posobiec
Brandon Straka
Republican Party chair Ronna McDaniel
GOP Rep. Mark Meadows
GOP Rep. Jim Jordan
GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz
Millie Weaver aka Mellinial Millie
Independent Video Journalist Ford Fischer

lULZ. Gaetz isn't banned. His account is right here. https://twitter.com/mattgaetz
Diamond and silk were briefly locked. They are not banned. They are right here. https://twitter.com/DiamondandSilk

Leftists don't get banned because they don't violate the terms of service, full stop.

TheDrake · « **Reply #38 on:** February 19, 2022, 10:27:27 AM »

One of the big complainers about media, massive Trump supporter, massive conservative, calls Harris a child abuser, fights school masking, thinks the election was stolen, cpac blogger of the year. Not banned.

https://twitter.com/WayneDupreeShow?t=etOnjpbIoNQmTrL9ghh5Hg&s=09

I'm surprised you didn't list Bannon, who got popped for saying that he wished we still lived in a time when we could behead our political enemies.

TheDrake · « **Reply #39 on:** February 20, 2022, 12:43:06 PM »

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Starting March 1st, we will not produce our podcasts on Twitter/Facebook anymore. We know they don't care & now, neither do we.

We've been suppressed since 2016 with no way to fix it. We're tired of our followers not being notified of our posts (food, jokes, & advice) #Changes

That from Wayne Dupree. Funny thing is, I followed him on Twitter and I'm receiving every single notification for every one of his posts. I wonder how many other "suppressed" conservatives are lying about it?

msquared · « **Reply #40 on:** February 21, 2022, 08:53:59 AM »

Well today is the day. Except maybe not.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-social-media-app-truth-124331589.html

I can't wait to see who Trump blames when this goes down in flames. Just like Trump University (scam) and Trump Steaks (failure) and Trump Airlines (failure) it will never be Trump's fault.

msquared · « **Reply #41 on:** February 23, 2022, 08:46:56 AM »

Bastion of Free Speech?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-truth-social-app-censored-123726337.html

Account was banned for just the account name. Sure it pooked fun and Nunes. What a snow flake.

Crunch · « **Reply #42 on:** February 23, 2022, 09:36:31 AM »

Wow, TDS is reaching stage 4.

msquared · « **Reply #43 on:** February 23, 2022, 09:58:27 AM »

Did I mention Trump in my previous post? How about a comment on the subject of the post? Nope, name calling is all you got.

Crunch · « **Reply #44 on:** February 23, 2022, 10:32:31 AM »

Quote from: msquared on February 23, 2022, 09:58:27 AM

Did I mention Trump in my previous post? How about a comment on the subject of the post? Nope, name calling is all you got.

HAHAHA, OK, let's break it down!

This is an entire thread dedicated to Trump and his social media platform. You created this thread.

Quote from: msquared on October 21, 2021, 12:18:36 PM

So Trump has a new site out called Truth Social. It promises open, free and honest global conversation.

As long as it is not a criticism of Trump.

Quote from: msquared on October 22, 2021, 07:54:25 PM

Will Truth even get running.

Turns out they use a open source code called Mastadon. The issue is that part of the license to use Mastadon requires that the code and any changes be made open to the public, which is sort of what open source code is all about. But Truth says their site is proprietary, which violates the T&C of the open code. So once again Trump shows he can not act with in the rules, even when the product is free.

Also Truth requires members who have a problem with them to use arbitration to settle disputes while if the site has an issue with the member, they can sue in their home state. That seems fairly common for sites like this (like Facebook and Twitter), but Trump had a real problem with those requirements back when he was suing them. So the rules are only ok when he gets to use them in his favor.

Quote from: msquared on February 18, 2022, 11:42:01 AM

This is Trump. Does this surprise you? That something Trump is involved with is just a way to make even more money before it folds?

Quote from: msquared on February 18, 2022, 12:01:40 PM

The only real surprise to me is that it is not some Trump related group but the NRSC. And that it is just a 1 time fee that you would automatically be opted in to for doubling each time. Just like most of Trump's fund raisers.

Quote from: msquared on February 21, 2022, 08:53:59 AM

I can't wait to see who Trump blames when this goes down in flames. Just like Trump University (scam) and Trump Steaks (failure) and Trump Airlines (failure) it will never be Trump's fault.

So you create a thread, dedicated to Trump, mention him by name 13 times in only 5 posts. And your position is that since you did not mention him on one post it must be you never mentioned him at all. Do you not see how mental that is? You're becoming the poster child for TDS.

TheDrake · « **Reply #45 on:** February 23, 2022, 10:45:27 AM »

Quote from: msquared on February 23, 2022, 08:46:56 AM

Bastion of Free Speech?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-truth-social-app-censored-123726337.html

Account was banned for just the account name. Sure it pooked fun and Nunes. What a snow flake.

That's amazing, but not unanticipated.

msquared · « **Reply #46 on:** February 23, 2022, 10:46:34 AM »

Well it is dedicated to Trumps social media attempt and following how lousy he is at it and how hypocritical he is about the site.

Crunch · « **Reply #47 on:** February 23, 2022, 11:10:22 AM »

Riiiiggggghhhhhht.

msquared · « **Reply #48 on:** March 03, 2022, 11:31:58 AM »

Trump has not used his own Truth Social app. Maybe it is because it has to be the Truth and nothing he says is the truth?

So why isn't he using his own app?

TheDrake · « **Reply #49 on:** March 03, 2022, 12:55:06 PM »

Maybe he doesn't want the look of only having 16,000 followers.

I predict that Twitter is going to be suing them. That seems way too close to avoid IP infringement

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One user mentioned that while they weren't ready to throw in the towel, their interest is waning. "I'm losing interest in Truth – they never let anyone new in, so there's not many people there." They continued, "I'm not giving up on them – just losing interest for now."

The Twitter account for Chicks on the Right, a conservative website and podcast, responded with a similar message. "We are in, I get notifications of new followers from time to time, but without a desktop version and no telling when it'll be more functional and robust? Same."

Another user indicated that their loss of interest was due to the long waitlist and then not hearing anything updates from the social media platform. "Question: Why isn't Truth giving updates as to what's happening? This is what people get after all the hype, radio silence? I have no dog in this fight since I have a Droid, which is also a problem, apparently. I've lost all interest."

Perhaps he hired the same people that the Department of Health and Human Services used for the ACA website.