Author Topic: The Fallen: Republicans Disavowed  (Read 7173 times)

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Re: The Fallen: Republicans Disavowed
« Reply #50 on: November 13, 2022, 08:12:33 PM »
Pence puts his 2 cents in.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/pence-muir-trumps-words-1-230100582.html

How long before Pence is a Never Trumper?

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Re: The Fallen: Republicans Disavowed
« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2022, 09:01:14 PM »
Pence puts his 2 cents in.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/pence-muir-trumps-words-1-230100582.html

How long before Pence is a Never Trumper?

Pence probably been NeverTrump since Jan 6.  But he's still more concerned about his political future than anything else.  Some of these people like Brooks are just finally speaking their minds on the way out the door.  But if they were still in and relying on NatC votes, they'd still be kissing the ring. 

Nothing has changed in the Republican electorate.  It's simply the "establishment" that is trying to change course, and they got hit by the steamroller before.  It's no longer 2016.  The PGrabber Party is now in charge of what used to be the GOP. 

Of the 10 Republican Congresscritters who voted to impeach Trump, only two survived to return for 2023.  Four were primaried out by the PGrabber Party and NatCs.  Another four quit.  Murkowski is the only Senator who voted to find Trump guilty who ran this year.  She is currently behind her Republican challenger.  Three of the other 7 Senators quit.  If Collins loses, that leaves only Cassidy, Romney, and Collins. 

The Republican politicians are by and large cowards.  The establishment have less power than they did in 2016.  Republican voters are still apparently 51% or more PGrabbers.  The voters hold the key and the Republican voters are not turning away from the Lord High Defender of Amurica yet.  Just look around.   

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Re: The Fallen: Republicans Disavowed
« Reply #52 on: November 13, 2022, 09:06:26 PM »
 I think Murkowski wins in AK due to the ranked choice voting.  Trump's lacky will not get 50% of the vote and my guess is enough of the Dem would vote for Murkowski over the Trump person, so I think she wins there.

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Re: The Fallen: Republicans Disavowed
« Reply #53 on: November 14, 2022, 08:05:49 AM »
Well Trump and Trumpist already hate the guy but John Kelly, one of Trump's Chief of Staffs says Trump wanted the IRS and FBI to go after people who made Trump look bad and angered him.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-repeatedly-called-irs-justice-122912650.html

A telling quote.

“He thought I would be loyal and obedient to him. I told him we were loyal to our oath to the Constitution,” Kelly said.

Trump, however, expected him to follow orders, no matter what.

“If he told you to slit someone’s throat, he thought you would go out and do it,” Kelly said.

Again and  again Trump has shown that he feels his subordinates needed to be loyal ONLY to him and was frustrated and angered when they were loyal to the oath they swore. Of course we all know Trump cares nothing about oaths and breaking them is just part and parcel for him. Just ask all of his wives.

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Re: The Fallen: Republicans Disavowed
« Reply #54 on: November 14, 2022, 03:18:25 PM »
Even Candace Owens is questioning Trump now.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/conservative-firebrand-candace-owens-says-110944059.html

How long before she called a Never Trumper and RINO?

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Re: The Fallen: Republicans Disavowed
« Reply #55 on: November 14, 2022, 05:07:13 PM »
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Again and  again Trump has shown that he feels his subordinates needed to be loyal ONLY to him and was frustrated and angered when they were loyal to the oath they swore. Of course we all know Trump cares nothing about oaths and breaking them is just part and parcel for him. Just ask all of his wives.

Like Morgoth, Trump has the curse of Deception, primarily Self-deception and the distorting power of a seduced language

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Those who listened and did not close the door were too often already inclined to his friendship; some … had already enter on paths like his own, and listened because they hoped to learn and receive from him things that would further their own purposes.

By taking language, and subtly bending it to his design, all but the most capable of the art of ósanwe are deceived.