Mental illness

[Ephrem Moseley]

I'm mentally ill. Bipolar 1 plus Borderline Personality Disorder

First, if and before I pass out, I've made a discovery just now and for posterity, it's Zyprexa plus nicotine gum it's cool maybe only once, maybe it'll die out, I will let you know if you are interested

I went to the ER psych ward on the 21st now I'm in a longer-term psych ward known as CATC in Portland, Oregon

I am attempting to fix myself

some people need "fixing"

like, say, oh I dunno, the transgender and homosexuals and those who don't accept the New World Order of caste that's coming

I believe I have royal blood perhaps I am the last male descendant (patrilinearly speaking) of King David (yes I am sterile)

remember, if you care about Plato at all, that TRUTH is not necessarily KINDNESS

I care about TRUTH more than KINDNESS

how about you?

[Ephrem Moseley]

favorite book at the moment "Science and Sanity" by Korzybski

favorite book before "The Righteous Mind" by Jon Haidt

[Ephrem Moseley]

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[rightleft22]

To care about the experience of Truth and Kindness.... which do we give greater value?
 
I would like to think the experience of Truth and kindness isn't a 'either or', 'greater - lessor' kind of measurement.... A Buddhist might suggest that such measuring isn't skillful. 
I'm not confident I can even define Truth... and as for kindness... "cruel to be kind in the right measure" has some truth... is it a kind truth?

I'm going to go with the Buddhist - the question and such measurement is unhelpful to my experience

[alai]

I like the "three gates" test -- even if like the "three Chinese curses" it's completely bogus as an actual saying or analect.  Truth, kindness, necessity.  But temperamentally I'm guilty of getting too deep into the weeds of the first to always properly mind the others.  Hey, it is the first gate!

[TheDrake]

Following the yogic principles put down in the Yoga Sutras by Patanjali, one must balance Truth (Satya) and non-violence (Ahimsa).

Honesty is the foundation of any strong relationship, whether it be romantic, plutonic or within our families, but letting our ego get in the way of our heart can often stop us from forming meaningful relationships with others. Being truthful is something appreciated by everyone, and when others know we are honest towards them, we’ll build a trusting relationship where others know they can look to us for honesty.

There is a balance though; acting with compassion for others is also important. The Yoga Sutras advise that if being honest in that moment is likely to cause harm to another, then it is best not to say or do anything at all…. Indian philosophy is contextual – meaning the Indians actually often change their standpoints and morals according to each situation, which can be very confusing – so if the situation calls for it, remember the saying ‘sometimes it is better to be kind than to be right’.

Observing the motives behind our actions – ‘will it truly serve the other person, or am I doing this because of a need to prove something or gain something?’ is a useful tool to help us apply both Satya and Ahimsa to our situations.

I admit, I don't always live up to those ideals. Maybe I fail more than I succeed. I confess to weaponizing truth from time to time. Following Ahimsa means never telling someone "I told you so." and that can be hard for me.

[Ephrem Moseley]

what unkind truths do you know?

I know one

if transwomen are not women, then the transwomen are in Hell, for as long as they live

if transwomen are women, then the AFAB women that predators (edit: who take advantage of "self-id" and identify as "transgender butch lesbian") prey on will experience moments of Hell

I've made my choice

I choose to believe that all transwomen are mentally ill

males are fighting over the "high-value" females that's all...

because: that is plausible

edit: both the fighting and the possibility that all mentally ill can be "fixed"

[alai]

I see, so several posts in we discover this is just a fork of the "rage against trans people" thread.  How many do we actually need?

[Ephrem Moseley]

I see, so several posts in we discover this is just a fork of the "rage against trans people" thread.  How many do we actually need?

The real issue here, in my opinion, is mental illness. The other thread was getting off-track.

[TheDrake]

We can put that to bed real quick. No accredited medical body calls transgenderism a mental illness. You can't just make stuff up on your own. It was listed as a disorder in 1994. This was corrected in DSM-5 (2013)

The DSM–5 articulates explicitly that “gender non-conformity is not in itself a mental disorder.” The 5th edition also includes a separate “gender dysphoria in children” diagnosis and for the first time allows the diagnosis to be given to individuals with disorders of sex development (DSD). DSM–5 also includes the optional “post-transition” specifier to indicate when a particular individual’s gender transition is complete. In this “post-transition” case, the diagnosis of gender dysphoria would no longer apply but the individual may still need ongoing medical care (e.g., hormonal treatment). Nevertheless, discussions continue among advocates and medical professionals about how best to preserve access to gender transition-related health care while also minimizing the degree to which such diagnostic categories stigmatize the very people that physicians are attempting to help.

So its all settled, thread can be retired forever.

If you prefer a more personal acount:

I am transgender and being myself is not a disorder

Different countries require trans people to be sterilised to apply for legal gender recognition, including 23 countries in Europe, while 22 European countries require trans people to divorce. In many places trans people, including children and teenagers, are subjected to “conversion” therapies – pseudo-scientific therapies to change their gender identity and gender expression.

Others, like me when I was a teenager, get treated with anxiety and anti-psychotic medication.

Despite these human rights violations, and the damaging ICD classification, the number of countries that respect trans people’s rights is growing. My own country, Argentina, is the first – and, so far, the only one – to grant access to legal gender recognition, gender-affirming healthcare and its coverage based on the human right to identity. Other countries, such as Malta, Mexico, the Netherlands, Bolivia, Sweden, Norway and Denmark are making advances in getting rid of requirements incompatible with human rights standards – to recognise trans people’s human rights.

Last year, Denmark announced it would no longer define being transgender as a mental illness, making it the first country to do so; and this year Sweden said it would do the same. A 2016 study found transgender identity should no longer be classified as a mental disorder, citing that the distress experienced by trans people was primarily a result of social rejection and violence, not the result of being transgender.

The world is undoubtedly changing. And how diseases are classified in changing as well.