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GOP nutbag of the week
« on: June 15, 2022, 01:37:30 PM »
I had to make sure it wasn't an Onion article.

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'There's now a shortage of tampons, and that's probably because men are buying tampons,' Greene said during a discussion about the transgender community on the conservative Right Side Broadcasting Network.

'They put tampons in men's bathrooms. So this is the war on women.'

Her claims sparked backlash, with many Twitter users calling her 'clueless'.

One user wrote: 'Crazy Rep. Greene says there is a shortage of Tampons because Trans men are using them. She says they are being put in men's bathrooms.

What?

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'They want to know when you are eating, they want to know if you are eating a cheeseburger - which is very bad because Bill Gates wants you to eat his fake meat that grows in a peach tree dish.'

She continued: 'So you will probably get a little zap inside your body and that is saying 'no, no, don't eat a real cheeseburger, eat the fake burger,' the fake meat from Bill Gates.

peach. tree.

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Re: GOP nutbag of the week
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2022, 01:53:54 PM »
Greene for president :(

Enough People looked at this person and thought this is a person I want to represent me, speak for me, that will stand up for my values. I can trust this person she's just like me, no be choice from my tribe is out thier  :'(

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Re: GOP nutbag of the week
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2022, 07:54:01 AM »
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President Biden is the "acting" president because he didn't win legally; Texans should vote on seceding; the Voting Rights Act of 1965 should be repealed; any gun control is a rights violation: this is the world as seen by the Republican Party of Texas, according to its newly adopted party platform.

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/20/1106229988/texas-gops-new-platform-says-biden-didnt-really-win-it-also-calls-for-secession

Texan's can't let Georgia have all the fun.

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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2022, 09:40:47 AM »
Organizers screened the film 2,000 Mules at least three times, according to the convention's program.
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That must have been pricey.

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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2022, 02:24:03 PM »
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"Today, we're going RINO hunting," Greitens, a Republican, said with a smile as he slid the action on his shotgun in the 38-second ad. RINO stands for "Republican in name only."

Greitens and a team of men outfitted in military gear are then shown bursting into a home, guns raised.

"The RINO feeds on corruption and is marked by the stripes of cowardice," said Greitens. "Get a RINO hunting permit. There's no bagging limit, no tagging limit, and it doesn't expire until we save our country."

Missouri doesn't want to be left out.

This guy should be in prison but the GOP want's to send him to the Senate. Google his blackmail kidnapping of his ex mistress. He can join Walker from Georgia. The party of "family values", if the women won't listen tie her up or put a gun to her head. Can't believe the GOP can't find better people to run. Guess most of the good people are too turned off by kissing Trump's ass.

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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2022, 03:15:07 PM »
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"Today, we're going RINO hunting," Greitens, a Republican, said with a smile as he slid the action on his shotgun in the 38-second ad. RINO stands for "Republican in name only."

Greitens and a team of men outfitted in military gear are then shown bursting into a home, guns raised.

"The RINO feeds on corruption and is marked by the stripes of cowardice," said Greitens. "Get a RINO hunting permit. There's no bagging limit, no tagging limit, and it doesn't expire until we save our country."

Missouri doesn't want to be left out.

This guy should be in prison but the GOP want's to send him to the Senate. Google his blackmail kidnapping of his ex mistress. He can join Walker from Georgia. The party of "family values", if the women won't listen tie her up or put a gun to her head. Can't believe the GOP can't find better people to run. Guess most of the good people are too turned off by kissing Trump's ass.

Maybe those are the good people in the GOP...

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Re: GOP nutbag of the week
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2022, 03:29:56 PM »
I guess I am a target now since Wm and his ilk all call me a RINO.I guess it is open season on me.

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Re: GOP nutbag of the week
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2022, 08:24:22 PM »
I guess I am a target now since Wm and his ilk all call me a RINO.I guess it is open season on me.

No, I doubt anyone will target you. Most who can read you see the false positions and don't take it seriously. If you were real, the Trump metrics would have swayed you a long time ago. Everyday, it seems some Democrat disinformation about Trump is revealed and those useful idiots ignore it because it may negate their old actions.

There are only two things to think about, here. One, is Trump's true popularity amongst voters, and the swelling Black and Latino improvement. The second is that Biden's vote came from hatred of Trump. Hatred which was based on Democrat lies. He's said, "Russia, Russia, Russia," for six years now, and you know he was right. Again.

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Re: GOP nutbag of the week
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2022, 09:19:40 PM »
I guess I am a target now since Wm and his ilk all call me a RINO.I guess it is open season on me.

No, I doubt anyone will target you. Most who can read you see the false positions and don't take it seriously. If you were real, …


Way to reassure a real person the right isn’t planning violence to get their way.

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Re: GOP nutbag of the week
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2022, 05:38:02 AM »
There are only two things to think about, here. One, is Trump's true popularity amongst voters, and the swelling Black and Latino improvement.
I'm going with the vote, as recorded, being his true popularity - so a bit less than half the population of the US liked him then.
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The second is that Biden's vote came from hatred of Trump.
That is a point that I think I have to give you
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Hatred which was based on Democrat lies.
That one not so much. I'm pretty sure it was based on his behaviour and his words, almost none of which appear to have been designed to create harmony across the population.
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He's said, "Russia, Russia, Russia," for six years now, and you know he was right. Again.
Most of what I heard re. Russia was (paraphrasing in case it isn't obvious) "Putin - he's this smart guy I like him a lot and get on well with him"

In terms of "the enemy" what I heard was "China, China, China" and, if I'm being fair, whilst I'm dubious about his methods I'm not sure he was wrong about the target.

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Re: GOP nutbag of the week
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2022, 01:18:24 PM »
Yesli Vega, a Republican nominee for Congress in Virginia:

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In the audio, an unidentified source asks Vega if she’d heard that women who are sexually assaulted are less likely to become pregnant because their body “shuts down” in some way. Vega responded “maybe” because “there’s so much going on in the body.”

“I don’t know,” she continued. “I haven’t, you know, seen any studies. But if I’m processing what you’re saying, it wouldn’t surprise me. Because it’s not something that’s happening organically. You’re forcing it. The individual, the male, is doing it as quickly … and so I can see why there is truth to that. It’s unfortunate.”

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Re: GOP nutbag of the week
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2022, 02:36:40 PM »
To be fair probably 99.99% of people would not be able to answer that question with factual information off the top of their head. Even I can't be sure whether it's possible or not!

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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2022, 02:44:43 PM »
You don't know for sure whether women who're raped can get pregnant from that rape?

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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2022, 03:02:55 PM »
You don't know for sure whether women who're raped can get pregnant from that rape?

I don't know for sure if extreme stress alters the % chance a pregnancy can occur, no. Wasn't that the question?

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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2022, 03:20:48 PM »
You don't know for sure whether women who're raped can get pregnant from that rape?

I don't know for sure if extreme stress alters the % chance a pregnancy can occur, no. Wasn't that the question?

Not from what I read in that small snippet.

"Shuts down" mean total closure.  A factory that "shuts down" has no workers nor output.  A person who "shuts down" is unresponsive.  That is how I understand the phrase.

Tom is right.  The statement she was agreed with was that a raped woman could not get pregnant.

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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2022, 03:31:59 PM »
Tom is right.  The statement she was agreed with was that a raped woman could not get pregnant.

Sigh.

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In the audio, an unidentified source asks Vega if she’d heard that women who are sexually assaulted are less likely to become pregnant because their body “shuts down” in some way. Vega responded “maybe” because “there’s so much going on in the body.”

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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2022, 03:56:20 PM »
PS - I'm not saying this person is the brightest bulb in the LED pack. Their second statement in the blurb is much dumber than the first, regarding the male "forcing it" and doing it "as quickly". I'm just saying she does not state that pregnancy can't happen during rape. Let's keep our criticisms accurate.

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Re: GOP nutbag of the week
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2022, 04:33:58 PM »
Well, we went over this when Akin made the same brain-dead comment. Every politician should be getting a primer on how not to sound like a lunatic. If she doesn't know, the answer should be "I'm not aware of any evidence that would be the case."

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How frequently do raped women get pregnant? It would seem from Akin’s comment that this is a very rare occurrence. However, current evidence suggests it is the same as the pregnancy rate for a single act of intercourse. Ergo, pregnancy from rape occurs as frequently as pregnancy from consensual sex.

This is thrown around so often because anti-abortionists want desperately to believe this, because rape victims are more sympathetic than promiscuous harlots. And because even they can't deny the horror of knowing their rapists fetus is growing inside of them, reminding them constantly of what happened to them.

Note that she actually admits that she's never seen any evidence, and goes on to say "It wouldn't surprise me." Then she goes on to describe "a truth to that". This isn't the same as your hypothesis, Fenring, that maybe emotional trauma affects implantation - because it sure as hell didn't affect ovulation or conception. Nor would it it make any difference if pregnancies were less likely by 50%, it doesn't change any of the policy.

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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2022, 04:38:02 PM »
This isn't the same as your hypothesis, Fenring, that maybe emotional trauma affects implantation - because it sure as hell didn't affect ovulation or conception. Nor would it it make any difference if pregnancies were less likely by 50%, it doesn't change any of the policy.

I don't have a hypothesis! I literally said I didn't know if it was possible. What I said was that the quote was being misread. I didn't say the quote looked liked promising biological research.

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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2022, 05:23:05 PM »
It is true that she didn't assert that this was the case, but a rational person will dismiss the line of enquiry for lack of evidence.

It is like saying, maybe when people get raped, they develop telekinetic powers! Or maybe when people get raped, they become better able to learn a second language. It is nonsensical. I have no problem stating with a preponderance of evidence that it is nonsensical. It's like looking at a blurry photograph and saying "could be aliens".

She further makes this claim:

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"The left will say, 'Well what about in cases of rape or incest?' I'm a law enforcement officer. I became a police officer in 2011. I've worked one case where as a result of a rape, the young woman became pregnant," she said in audio obtained by Axios.

I stand by my nomination of her as nutbag of the week. Lots of things are possible but not plausible. This lands in that category. Or perhaps you aren't aware of how many slaves gave birth to their master's kid.

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Nearly 3 million women in the United States have experienced rape-related pregnancy during their lifetime, according to the CDC.

After being made aware of all of this information, Vega still has yet to backpedal on her nutbaggery. When asked for comment:

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Asked for comment on her remarks, which have not previously been reported, Vega told Axios in a statement, "I'm a mother of two, I'm fully aware of how women get pregnant."

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« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2022, 08:57:53 PM »
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“When we normalize people fornicating, and we normalize people living together with their boyfriends and girlfriends and all that stuff, we open a door for us to get to the point where we have people who want to normalize pedophilia,” Karamo said.

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« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2022, 11:01:41 AM »
It is really hard to keep up with all the nutbaggery.

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Speaking at a religious service Sunday in Colorado, she told worshipers: “The church is supposed to direct the government. The government is not supposed to direct the church. That is not how our Founding Fathers intended it.”

She added: “I’m tired of this separation of church and state junk that’s not in the Constitution. It was in a stinking letter, and it means nothing like what they say it does.” Her comments were first reported by the Denver Post.

Boebert. Republican embarassment number 329.

Your rebuttal, Mr. Madison, on behalf of the founding fathers?

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Nothwithstanding the general progress made within the two last centuries in favour of this branch of liberty, & the full establishment of it, in some parts of our Country, there remains in others a strong bias towards the old error, that without some sort of alliance or coalition between Gov' & Religion neither can be duly supported: Such indeed is the tendency to such a coalition, and such its corrupting influence on both the parties, that the danger cannot be too carefully guarded agst.. And in a Gov' of opinion, like ours, the only effectual guard must be found in the soundness and stability of the general opinion on the subject. Every new & successful example therefore of a perfect separation between ecclesiastical and civil matters, is of importance.

A PERFECT separation.

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« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2022, 11:06:32 AM »
But he was played by a black man in Hamilton, so how can you listen to what he says?

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« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2022, 02:14:43 PM »
200 year old fake news, I'm sure.

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« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2022, 12:31:17 PM »
It is really hard to keep up with all the nutbaggery.

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Speaking at a religious service Sunday in Colorado, she told worshipers: “The church is supposed to direct the government. The government is not supposed to direct the church. That is not how our Founding Fathers intended it.”

She added: “I’m tired of this separation of church and state junk that’s not in the Constitution. It was in a stinking letter, and it means nothing like what they say it does.” Her comments were first reported by the Denver Post.

Boebert. Republican embarassment number 329.

Your rebuttal, Mr. Madison, on behalf of the founding fathers?

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Nothwithstanding the general progress made within the two last centuries in favour of this branch of liberty, & the full establishment of it, in some parts of our Country, there remains in others a strong bias towards the old error, that without some sort of alliance or coalition between Gov' & Religion neither can be duly supported: Such indeed is the tendency to such a coalition, and such its corrupting influence on both the parties, that the danger cannot be too carefully guarded agst.. And in a Gov' of opinion, like ours, the only effectual guard must be found in the soundness and stability of the general opinion on the subject. Every new & successful example therefore of a perfect separation between ecclesiastical and civil matters, is of importance.

A PERFECT separation.

That quote points out something the religious folks salivating for the changes have been oblivious to.

The danger cuts both ways.

When the pendulum swings,and it will, there will be no protecting your religious institutions from the counter swing because the barriers to do so will have been removed by your own hand.

 These cycles are long and I’m not sure I will live to see it but it will come to pass.

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« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2022, 01:02:15 PM »
...[Based on Democrat lies...] I'm pretty sure it was based on his behavior and his words, almost none of which appear to have been designed to create harmony across the population.

As previously stated, Trump is portrayed as abusive and aggressive with poor behavior -  the useful idiots believe that. Since they are protesting against a strawman, there is no strawman to contest them. It's like the "Have you stopped beating your wife?" No answer works. What works is the metrics. According to what he accomplished, he is genuinely the best President we've ever had. When you add that he was constantly being obstructed by Democrat liars and disinformationists, his accomplishments are far beyond just his metrics. Based on reactions in this forum by Dem apologists, none of them could have remained as open and polite as Trump has. They lambast him for existing in their windstorm. When he prospers and excels, they get angry and more abusive.

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« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2022, 01:05:06 PM »
He is abusive and aggressive. Just ask any number of his former employees, aides, and people who did business with him. Or just watch his TV show. Or read his twitter feed, whatever is left of it.

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« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2022, 01:07:19 PM »
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According to what he accomplished, he is genuinely the best President we've ever had.
William, please stop being delusional.

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« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2022, 01:47:05 PM »
He is abusive and aggressive. Just ask any number of his former employees, aides, and people who did business with him. Or just watch his TV show. Or read his twitter feed, whatever is left of it.

You mean like Cassidy Hutchinson? The people she worked with advised Trump not to include her in any ongoing plans for their future team because she was not to be trusted. If she shoes up hosting a show on CNN or MSNBC, then you have your answer.

...And, as always, Reacting to someone else's abusive actions or remarks is a defensive action - not the cause of the conflict. Maybe if Mitt Romney had not flinched for having binders of women he would have won his election.

BTW: why not take it to Biden, and ask any number of his former employees, aides, and people who did business with him (and family members) to explain the Biden Crime Family and their ill-gotten gains?

I'm waiting for a complicit MSM questioner to ask about his inappropriate showers. Or his lies about Hunter.

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« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2022, 02:00:44 PM »
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According to what he accomplished, he is genuinely the best President we've ever had.
William, please stop being delusional.

It is delusional to avoid responding to the Biden Crime Family. It is not delusional to ask about them.

You said Trump was delusional because he was Putin's man, bought and paid for and wouldn't admit it. Now you know Russia! Russia! Russia! was bought and paid for by Hillary. You know The complicit swamp monsters lied through their teeth with felonious acts for years. They fear they will be asked to answer for their malfeasance and treasonous actions, so invented an unselect committee to cook up anything they can get their co-conspirators in the DOJ to use against Trump to block another Presidential run. You know that. It is not delusional.

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« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2022, 02:17:50 PM »
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You said Trump was delusional because he was Putin's man, bought and paid for and wouldn't admit it.
I would like very much for you to cite evidence for that.

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« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2022, 02:35:20 PM »
William, William, William. There you go again launching into irrelevant attacks on other people. The point is whether Trump is abusive. Any abuser will say they were "just reacting". I wouldn't hit you if you didn't keep making me so mad! I know that to you he is as infallible as the pope and "we all know it".

John McCain totally deserved being called a loser who got captured by the enemy and was not a hero. I mean anybody that expresses an opinion not consistent with the perfect opinions of Donald Trump deserves the basest of all insults.

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« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2022, 06:00:32 PM »
How about Mo Brooks?  He was an ardent Trump supporter until he said they should move past the 2020 election. And them Trump threw him under the bus.

Trump views any opinion of him other than his being perfect as a personal insult and then attacks.

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« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2022, 07:51:34 PM »
Georgia U.S. Senate candidate Herschel Walker boldly steps up to be this week's leading contender.

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The Green New Deal, you know climate change. I’m going to help you with that real quickly… We, in America, have some of the cleanest air and cleanest water of anywhere in the world. So what we do is, we gonna put, from the Green New Deal, millions and billions of dollars cleaning our good air up. ...  Since we don’t control the air, our good air decided to float over to China’s bad air. So when China gets our good air, their bad air got to move. So it moves over to our good air space. Then now we got we to clean that back up.

Where do they find these ignoramuses?  ;D

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« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2022, 07:53:41 PM »
Actually even if that quote was entirely fictional I'd give it good marks for prose styling.

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« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2022, 10:51:36 PM »
Is he suggesting sentient air?

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Yet these developments have mattered little to Republican officials and strategists, several of whom said in interviews that their support for Mr. Walker has not wavered.

They said he continues to have the backing of top Republican leaders in the state at a time when Democrats are bracing for bruising losses in the November midterms. Even those in the G.O.P. who are quietly wary of Mr. Walker’s tumultuous past and his lack of political experience say they are looking past all that and focusing instead on flipping a Democratic seat in the Senate.

The Republican Party has stood by numerous elected officials and candidates plagued by scandals, often choosing to break with them only when their chances of winning a race are jeopardized. For Mr. Walker — who comes with hefty investments from top conservative groups, Donald J. Trump’s blessing and a base enamored by his football stardom at the University of Georgia in the 1980s — that break has yet to materialize.

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In the race for the U.S. Senate in Georgia, Democratic incumbent Raphael Warnock leads 54 - 44 percent over Republican challenger Herschel Walker, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pea-ack) University poll of Georgia registered voters released today.

In Quinnipiac's January 2022 poll, the race was very tight with 49 percent of voters supporting Walker and 48 percent supporting Warnock.

Maybe there is some kind of line, even for Georgia Republican voters.

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« Reply #36 on: July 24, 2022, 07:05:20 PM »
Matt Gaetz stoops to an all time low.  You can't make this stuff up.

"Have you watched these pro-abortion, pro-murder rallies?" the Florida congressman asked the teenagers gathered at the Turning Point USA Student Action Summit in Tampa, Florida.

"The people are just disgusting. Why is it that the women with the least likelihood of getting pregnant are the ones most worried about having abortions? Nobody wants to impregnate you if you look like a thumb," Gaetz commented.

https://www.newsweek.com/sex-trafficking-probe-mentioned-after-matt-gaetz-makes-odious-women-jibe-1727430

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« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2022, 08:26:37 AM »
At the same meeting MTG said the Republicans need to become Christian Nationalist.  My God, does she hear herself? What have these people done to my party? I weep.

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« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2022, 12:29:22 PM »
MTG wins this more than Ken Jennings wins Jeopardy.

Her latest is that it is no big deal killing the head of Al-Qaeda and that Biden only did it to help midterms. Implying, I guess, that he'd been holding back til now?

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« Reply #39 on: August 04, 2022, 12:39:58 PM »
Josh Hawley might be in the running. As the only Senator to vote against agreeing to allow Sweden and Finland into NATO (with Rand Paul basically abstaining).  His reasoning.  China is a larger threat.   While who is the larger threat is arguable, there is no denying that China is a large threat.  So wouldn't it make sense that an action that would increase the ability of others to oppose Russia (say NATO) would allow the US to focus more energy on opposing China?

These 2 countries are well positioned to help NATO. They are close neighbors of Russia and I think Finland (it might be Sweden) already spends the required 2%+ of GDP on defense costs. Add in the fact that they are well experienced in fighting in cold climates means that they are perfectly placed for another front if direct war happens.  How anyone other than a Harvard educated GOP MAGA idiot can see this as anything other than a win is beyond me.
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« Reply #40 on: August 04, 2022, 01:01:21 PM »
Josh Hawley might be in the running. As the only Senator to vote against agreeing to allow Sweden and Finland into NATO (with Rand Paul basically abstaining).  His reasoning.  China is a larger threat.   While who is the larger threat is arguable, there is no denying that China is a large threat.  So wouldn't it make sense that an action that would increase the ability of others to oppose Russia (say NATO) would allow the US to focus more energy on opposing China?

These 2 countries are well positioned to help NATO. They are close neighbors of Russia and I think Finland (it might be Sweden) already spends the required 2%+ of GDP on defense costs. Add in the fact that they are well experienced in fighting in cold climates means that they are perfectly placed for another front if direct war happens.  How anyone other than a Harvard educated GOP MAGA idiot can see this as anything other than a win is beyond me.

Josh Hawley is always in the running. Finland has a land border with Russia that creates whole new headaches for the Russian armed forces in a conflict with NATO. Smaller populations and armed forces, but well funded and trained. Great additions to NATO. I'm not a military tactician but the addition front for Russia in the North close to St Petersburg and not much farther from Moscow means in a direct conflict with NATO nukes are the only Russian defense.

Hawley is right China is a threat. Too bad the Republicans and Trump torpedoed our trade agreement designed to help isolate China from their neighbors.

Hawley probably only opposes the expansion because its a "win" for Biden.

Hawley follows the modern Republican priority list:
1) Trump
2) the Republican party
3) rich people
4) corporations
5) America
6) the general public

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« Reply #41 on: August 04, 2022, 02:21:47 PM »
Josh Hawley explainned his no-vote: "Our foreign policy should be about protecting the United States, our freedom, our people, and our way of life, and expanding NATO, I believe, would not do that,"said Senator Hawley. "What I am arguing for is the return to a classic nationalist approach to foreign policy [...] grounded in our nation's interests and in the reality of the world as it is, not as we wish it was."

He is very honest with his issues, following the Trump America First agenda. I also disagree with his not supporting a broadened NATO, but he did not do that because of China. That is a separate issue. His history shows he always supports ends that are good for the USA, not getting us embroiled in endless wars that are not our concerns. He may disagree with me on NATO, but he is one of the few honest politicians.

He is far from being a nutbag. Argue with his concerns - not just insult.

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« Reply #42 on: August 04, 2022, 03:49:30 PM »
It would be far more convincing if Hawley were dealing with the world as it is, and not as he wishes it was.  ;D

Alliances work, especially NATO.  Isolationism doesn't, not in a world where international trade (esp. oil) is a necessity for every country, including ours.  The fact that he can't see that shows he is living in a fantasy world.

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« Reply #43 on: August 05, 2022, 08:37:48 PM »
It would be far more convincing if Hawley were dealing with the world as it is, and not as he wishes it was.  ;D

Alliances work, especially NATO.  Isolationism doesn't, not in a world where international trade (esp. oil) is a necessity for every country, including ours.  The fact that he can't see that shows he is living in a fantasy world.

On the contrary. Hawley, like Trump, is not an isolationist - but they both fought against power-mongering without benefit for our country. They strove to stop terrorism and then separate from babysitting every country run by despots, Evidently, the Dem agreed, because they took this concept of disengaging from Afghanistan to a whole new level that resurrected the Taliban, and wrought havoc. The reason for doing so was straight from the Trump playbook - but without his competency.

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« Reply #44 on: August 05, 2022, 09:59:51 PM »
It wasn't just FROM the Trump playbook. It was actually Trump's doing.

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« Reply #45 on: August 06, 2022, 12:24:15 PM »
For this week I'm nominating Dick Cheney.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/05/dick-cheney-trump-liz-cheney-threat-republic

Dick Cheney attacks Donald Trump as ‘greatest threat to our republic’

Trump may have his flaws but he's hardly the greatest threat to our republic.

Biden's incompetence is a much greater threat to our republic. The open borders, the rampant inflation, losing Afghanistan to the Taliban which is now supporting al-Qaeda to nullify over twenty years worth of sacrifice trying to destroy the group that hit us on 9-11 not to mention setting back to the stone age both human rights and women's rights over there.

What will be funny though is if Democrats now come out in support of Dick Cheney the way they have for George Bush despite how much they hate them both just because the enemy of my enemy is my friend and Trump is the common enemy of all of these swamp creatures and Dick Cheney is their great grandfather.

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« Reply #46 on: August 06, 2022, 01:26:04 PM »
Inflation, al-Qaeda, and immigration are hardly existential threats to the republic, even if one accepts that Biden is the cause of inflation and the loss in Afghanistan, and that his immigration policy are "open borders."

Trump's the reason you lot are staring down the barrel of a constitutional crisis over conflicting slates of electors with a Supreme Court who's legitimacy is already questionable. One of the outcomes of this crisis is that the President is no longer elected but instead appointed by the states. That seems a lot worse to me than almost any failed foreign, economic, or immigration policy.

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« Reply #47 on: August 06, 2022, 01:42:49 PM »
It wasn't just FROM the Trump playbook. It was actually Trump's doing.

Don't be ridiculous. Lying never serves anyone's purpose. You know Biden's one page playbook says to delete every Trump policy he can. Trump has already specified how if he had been in charge, the Taliban would not have been allowed back into governance, nor the deaths, nor a billion dollars of military materiel allowed to fall into their hands. None of the stupid things Biden did can be laid at Trump's feet. If he put Trump's successes back into place, we would get out of the recession PDQ.

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« Reply #48 on: August 06, 2022, 01:52:53 PM »
Inflation, al-Qaeda, and immigration are hardly existential threats to the republic, even if one accepts that Biden is the cause of inflation and the loss in Afghanistan, and that his immigration policy are "open borders."

Trump's the reason you lot are staring down the barrel of a constitutional crisis over conflicting slates of electors with a Supreme Court who's legitimacy is already questionable. One of the outcomes of this crisis is that the President is no longer elected but instead appointed by the states. That seems a lot worse to me than almost any failed foreign, economic, or immigration policy.

All those things you try to dismiss are threats you can directly lay at Biden's feet. The Constitutional crises you should also lay at the Dems' feet. They did steal the election and Trump allowed their scamming to stand to not bring about a civil war. Many people think he should have resisted their cheating - but more of us believe once he gets back into power in 2024, he will be properly empowered and motivated to cleanse the corruption. The only crisis is the Dems' fearing their total erasure forever more of any chance of regaining power. With their power players in prison their scamming will become irrelevant. SCOTUS legitimacy is not questionable. Acting like it is, is. The election process will be strengthened under Trump unless the Dems can destroy it before the Red Wave guts them.

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« Reply #49 on: August 06, 2022, 10:01:30 PM »
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You know Biden's one page playbook says to delete every Trump policy he can.
Gotta tell you, man, I sincerely wish that were true, or that Biden and I shared the same definition of "can" in this case.