OAN Network being cancelled

[wmLambert]

The latest attack on OAN from Verizon mentions the reason as it spreading disinformation. Remember the massive lawsuits by Smartmatic? I wonder how the reversed election that showed the  Dominion machines WERE hacked plays in this. The cancel culture is a heinous thing, but this is particularly hard to even rationalize. How can the Left hold their noses and allow this kind of thing go on?

[msquared]

Easily. They lied about what happened in the election and systems that carrried them made a business decision to not carry them anymore.  What do you have against business's doing what they want for what ever reason?  I mean Free Market, right? Or should they be forced to carry them, like say a bakery would be forced to make a cake they do not agree with?

[Tom]

Are you under the impression that Smartmatic is likely to lose its suit, William?

[wmLambert]

Are you under the impression that Smartmatic is likely to lose its suit, William?

Not is it's in DC - but if it was an honest world, of course they would lose their suits. It is a proven fact that Dominion is hackable. The 2000 Mules Documentary demonstrated that a widespread vote-scam was used that had enough numbers to steal the election. There have been no refutation of that. I see opinions expressed - but not facts. One American News reported news as it was seen, contemporaneously. They even went so far as to look at some of the eyewitness affidavits that were never looked at in court because poll watchers supposedly lacked standing, and factually verify them.. Why haven't the counter culture funded by Soros gone after disinformationalist CNN, MSNBC, and the MSM for their years of lies? This is strictly Political and against the Constitution. What is your excuse for siding with the Darkside? Why do you think Biden fired all the Trump-appointed Immigration Judges? It surely wasn't to help - it was to harm. You need to look at yourselves and stop being loyal apologists.

[wmLambert]

BTW; businesses are still being forced to do things that hurt their bottom line under duress from the Soros-backed counter culture. Free Enterprise is the best system, but needs to be fought for.

[msquared]

So when Disney decides it wants to do something Desantis does not like it is ok for him to punish them?

[Tom]

Sincere question, William: why are you so afraid of George Soros? Is he the only rich anti-Communist you know of?

[Tom]

Not is it's in DC - but if it was an honest world, of course they would lose their suits. It is a proven fact that Dominion is hackable.

Quick note: Dominion and Smartmatic are competitors. Also, the libel in question is not merely saying "electronic voting machines are hackable." Please review the statements of fact in the case that are being challenged.

Fox is extremely likely to lose, unless they can somehow manufacture a third party to take the fall as their "source."

[msquared]

Smartmatic was used in one county, I think, in the whole USA.

[wmLambert]

Sincere question, William: why are you so afraid of George Soros? Is he the only rich anti-Communist you know of?

No - you are being disingenuous. Soros has publicly stated he hates the USA and wants to destroy it. Dis you miss that? He hates Free Enterprise and wants a change.

[Fenring]

No - you are being disingenuous. Soros has publicly stated he hates the USA and wants to destroy it. Dis you miss that? He hates Free Enterprise and wants a change.

I think Tom's point is that there are probably all manner of powerful people out there with agendas that would make you raise an eyebrow. You can take right-wing types like David Rockefeller who has stated openly he wants usher in a new world order, whatever that means. If you want to be bipartisan you can look into him too

[Mynnion]

WM- I try very hard to keep an open mind with your posts.  You make it difficult. 

Everything is hackable.  There is however no proof that Dominion was hacked with regards to the 2020 election.

I also find it incredibly unlikely that none of the "2000 Mules" have come forward to confess.  Especially with the large amount of money offered for information and proof of fraud.  That's just too many people to keep quiet.

You seem to be of the opinion that anyone who does not love and support Trump are either stupidly naïve or evil.  I have to ask.  Is there any source of information that you would believe if they presented proof of Trump doing something wrong?  I completely agree that there are biases in the media.  I will also note that these biases go both ways.  When in doubt about what someone said or did I try to find the actual transcripts.  As an example there are those on the left trying to claim that several Supreme Court justices lied under oath.  I read through the transcripts and while what they said was certainly designed to give certain senators like Collins plausible deniability there were no actual lies.

You stated you support a Free Enterprise but have an issue when it impacts negatively on conservative businesses.  The market drives things.  Businesses need to be aware that their support comes from their consumers.  It is possible Soros could have it in for OAN and pressure advertisers to pull their support.  It is just as possible if not more so that the Koch Brothers (OK Brother now) have spent millions to influence the public. 

I grew up conservative.  I find it incredibly sad that my values haven't shifted much but the definitions of conservative and liberal have shifted drastically right in the last 30 years.

[TheDrake]

By the way, there's your disinformation right there. The quote that gets thrown around, that I assume you've swallowed wholesale, William, is this:

"I’ve made my life’s mission to destroy the United States. I hate this country and I hate all of the people in it!"

This was never said by him.

This is the disinformation that gets a media outlet targeted, like OAN was.

We found that part of the quote was used, in bold-face type, and attributed to Soros in a 2011 Breitbart article that discusses the "looming breakdown in society," placing the blame on the "veterans" and "descendants of the Radical Left from the 1960s:

Just on the face of it, the guy you attribute as an evil genius capable of pulling the global strings, made a statement to Newsweek that he hates America, and you find this credible.

Now you go ahead and show me where CNN ever tried something as brazen as a fabricated story about Trump declaring that he wanted to become a dictator as a direct quote. They have insinuated that he wants this, inferring from his actions, in their op ed pieces. But they don't say it was his life's work in his own words.

See the difference?

[Tom]

Soros has publicly stated he hates the USA and wants to destroy it.

No, he hasn't. And that honestly makes me question the quality of the sources on which you're relying for your information about Soros in particular.

[yossarian22c]

Soros has publicly stated he hates the USA and wants to destroy it.

No, he hasn't. And that honestly makes me question the quality of the sources on which you're relying for your information about Soros in particular.

This is the tidbit that makes you question the quality of his sources?!? 

The man swears by a "documentary film" made by a convicted felon who pled guilty to fraud related campaign finance crimes.

[Tom]

I did say "about Soros in particular."

[wmLambert]

Has anyone viewed the latest Soros interviews where he defends his millions of dollars of donations to prosecutors who let crooks out and his crowing about how polls show his people are supported. The polls he quoted were researched and say the opposite.

According to Soros, open borders policies are about importing poverty and it is meant to destroy our citizenship, rendering it meaningless. Patriotism will be replaced by socialism once that is complete.

That is why Democrats don’t talk of American exceptionalism but go on apology tours.

The architect of these policies is George Soros. It’s all in his book – The Crisis of Capitalism. He wants a world without borders with the UN in charge. For that to happen, America must go.

That is what team Biden is doing. Please look up Immiseration, Global Immiseration, and Cloward and Pivens.
They create victims and only the democrats can protect them. That is in The Communist Manifesto. The freedom lovers — independent thinkers — people who love this country — are always painted as the oppressors who must be punished.
Criminals aren’t the bad guys — they too are victims. It’s all part of the George Soros plan.

[Tom]

The polls he quoted were researched and say the opposite.

Citation, please.

They create victims and only the democrats can protect them. That is in The Communist Manifesto.

I have read the Communist Manifesto, but it's been many years. Can you point me to the relevant passage?

[TheDrake]

I think we can now conclude that those polls don't exist, and that wm has never read the Communist Manifesto, or even the cliff notes.