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D.W.

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Re: Deplatforming
« Reply #150 on: July 22, 2019, 07:56:49 PM »
I'm kinda surprised those places are for "women" only and that it would be an issue what's in someone's undies.  Unless it's a liability issue and the process is different somehow... 

I suppose you could run into a situation where the employee was worried about the process being perceived as sexual / a fetish for the customer and making them uncomfortable with it... but otherwise, what's it matter the anatomy of the person paying you to torture them in the name of silky smoothness?   ;D

TheDrake

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« Reply #151 on: July 22, 2019, 08:09:43 PM »
Again, I'm going to have to say that if someone doesn't respect your lifestyle choice, you probably don't want them to put hot wax on your genitals.

DonaldD

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« Reply #152 on: July 23, 2019, 09:57:10 AM »
Waxing the exceedingly loose skin of that particular area would seem to be a bit more challenging than an otherwise standard brazillian... not saying it's impossible, but waxing requires ripping the hair out of a relatively taught patch of skin... if the skin tends to stretch towards the direction of the ripping motion... significant discomfort and even trauma could occur.

I do not know that this has anything to do with this situation and this refusal, but it would certainly factor into my decision on the matter...

TheDrake

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« Reply #153 on: July 23, 2019, 10:31:25 AM »
Fair. It may be a more complicated or just different technique.

But it is offered by some salons, so it's not physically impossible. Look up back, crack, and sack waxing, but probably not at work.

TheDrake

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Re: Deplatforming
« Reply #154 on: July 23, 2019, 02:06:19 PM »
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Two Louisiana police officers were fired Monday for a Facebook post that suggested Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) should be shot.

Charlie Rispoli, an officer with the police force in Gretna, La., wrote on Facebook: “This vile idiot needs a round........and I don’t mean the kind she used to serve,” referring to a gunshot and the lawmaker’s earlier career as a bartender. It was not clear from Rispoli’s post, which has since been deleted, whether he knew he was sharing and commenting on a story from a satire website.

Nola.com originally reported the Facebook post and acquired an image before it was deleted.

Rispoli was fired along with another officer, Angelo Varisco, who “liked” the Facebook post, Gretna Police Chief Arthur Lawson said at a news conference.

Just two more conservatives being deplatformed. Free speech is dead, I guess.  ;D

TheDrake

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« Reply #155 on: July 23, 2019, 02:08:47 PM »
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In Philadelphia, the Plain View Project identified some 3,100 offensive or potentially offensive posts from 328 active-duty police officers. Of that number, the most offensive were placed on leave while a department-hired law firm probed the matter, Commissioner Richard Ross said at a news conference. In addition to the officers that will be dismissed, four others will be suspended for a month.


Their conduct, Ross said, “demonstrates the officers have little or no regard for their positions as police officers.”

“I continue to be very disappointed and angered by these posts, many of which violate basic human decency,” Ross said. “We need to move past this ridiculous hate that has consumed this country and has done so for centuries.”

The most egregious posts, he said, included Islamophobic cries such as “death to Islam,” references to African Americans as “thugs,” homophobic slurs, advocating violence against trans people and generally encouraging police brutality.

What?! More firing people for free speech.

TheDeamon

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« Reply #156 on: July 24, 2019, 12:02:47 AM »
I have a question after the one citation, is it racist if you refer to a bunch of actual "thugs" as being thugs if they're African American?

I need to make sure I understand the current status quo on truthful labeling. My money is on "racist" in common "woke" parlance, but whatever.

Crunch

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« Reply #157 on: July 24, 2019, 07:25:19 AM »
I have a question after the one citation, is it racist if you refer to a bunch of actual "thugs" as being thugs if they're African American?

I need to make sure I understand the current status quo on truthful labeling. My money is on "racist" in common "woke" parlance, but whatever.

So you know, in his world a white person saying anything critical of a minority is racist. There is no truth.

rightleft22

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« Reply #158 on: July 24, 2019, 09:39:02 AM »
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So you know, in his world a white person saying anything critical of a minority is racist. There is no truth.

That's a bunch of poor me victim bull crap.

TheDrake

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« Reply #159 on: July 24, 2019, 10:11:24 AM »
I have a question after the one citation, is it racist if you refer to a bunch of actual "thugs" as being thugs if they're African American?

I need to make sure I understand the current status quo on truthful labeling. My money is on "racist" in common "woke" parlance, but whatever.

Gotta ask yourself, what other context do we hear "Thug"? Are we hearing about Japanese thugs, white thugs, Russian thugs, hispanic thugs? Rarely, if at all. You can't really pretend that this isn't tied to race.

Incidentally, I searched for Japanese thug, and the top citation in media was from the NY Times. In 1932. Everything else was off topic.

Hispanic thug showed a couple of 30 second you tube videos with less than a thousand views.

Now look at the google usage for the word thug on a steady trajectory upward since about 1980.

Part of this has been amplified and propagated by the hip hop community. Thug Life is a thing. That only more strongly associates the terms with African Americans, doesn't it? Note that in that context, "thug" was not at all about being a criminal, it was about being a reformed criminal. It was also about systemic oppression and lack of opportunity.

By the way, the original use of thug was to label a group in India who attacked British soldiers. Which has its own (lost) connotations.

Words mean something, and words have connotations. The fact that some people are not educated enough to recognize that risk calling a young black man "boy". Hey, what's wrong with the word boy, he seems young to me? Am I not allowed to say anything critical about this boy?

On that last one, courts also have issues determining whether someone was being racist calling employees "boy". An appeals court said:

The speaker's meaning may depend on various factors including context, tone of voice, local custom and historical usage.

So if you're grinning and you gesture to a young black man to "come on over here, boy" and you regularly also refer to young white men with "boy", you're probably not being racist. But you are probably being somewhat ignorant and insensitive. And for what it is worth, you probably shouldn't refer to your white employee as "boy" either.

D.W.

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« Reply #160 on: July 24, 2019, 10:18:04 AM »
We use it playing various table top fantasy role playing games...  Those thugs aren't even always human, let alone being specific to skin color or country of origin.  :P

Crunch

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« Reply #161 on: July 24, 2019, 10:27:35 AM »
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So you know, in his world a white person saying anything critical of a minority is racist. There is no truth.

That's a bunch of poor me victim bull crap.

It was an actual poll, of Democrats.

TheDrake

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« Reply #162 on: July 24, 2019, 11:07:42 AM »
We use it playing various table top fantasy role playing games...  Those thugs aren't even always human, let alone being specific to skin color or country of origin.  :P

There's a lot I've seen in fantasy role playing and fantasy novels that I wouldn't want someone doing IRL.

TheDrake

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Re: Deplatforming
« Reply #163 on: August 05, 2019, 10:14:03 AM »
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He is believed to be the author of a text posted on 8chan, an online message board frequently used by the far right, which says "this attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas" and talks about "cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by invasion".

The four-page document, reportedly posted some 20 minutes before police received the first emergency call from the Walmart, also expresses support for the gunman who killed 51 people in Christchurch, New Zealand, in March.

US cyber security firm Cloudflare said it would terminate 8chan as a customer following the attack.

Deplatformed, well not entirely. It'd have been nice if they didn't need a mass shooting to stop supporting them.

What is 8chan?

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The absolutist free speech ethos also attracted people who want to announce their violent plans. Prior to the El Paso attack, a short document appeared on /pol/ which appeared to outline the shooter's beliefs. It appeared along with a letter from a college that included the shooter's name.

Similarly, 8chan posts were made by suspects in the March shooting in Christchurch, New Zealand, and the synagogue shooting in Poway, California in April, prior to the attacks.

At least Google wasn't helping people find them.

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Although 8chan does not appear in Google search results, internet ranking company Alexa says it is among the top 5,000 websites worldwide.

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“Shut the site down,” Mr. Brennan said in an interview. “It’s not doing the world any good. It’s a complete negative to everybody except the users that are there. And you know what? It’s a negative to them, too. They just don’t realize it.”

Mr. Brennan, who has claimed that he got the idea for 8chan while on psychedelic mushrooms, set out to create what he called a free speech alternative to 4chan, a better-known online message board. He was upset that 4chan had become too restrictive, and he envisioned a site where any legal speech would be welcome, no matter how toxic.

That's the result of unrestricted support for "extreme free speech". It encourages radicalization, just like terrorist websites advocating violent acts.

TheDeamon

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« Reply #164 on: August 05, 2019, 11:27:18 PM »
Well, it seems the Dayton shooter isn't likely to be connected to 8chan at the least.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/dayton-shooter-warren/

Self-described leftist, recently supported Elizabeth Warren, and previously supported Bernie according to his social media history. Is a self-described leftist and satanist as per his social media bio.

I guess the devil made him do it?

TheDrake

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« Reply #165 on: August 06, 2019, 12:19:22 PM »
True, he was a leftist. Doesn't appear that shooting his sister, making out a list of women he'd like to rape has much to do with his politics.

D.W.

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Re: Deplatforming
« Reply #166 on: August 06, 2019, 01:24:29 PM »
We're gonna pass up the opportunity to lay violent incels at the feet of the Misogynist in Chief as well?   Slackers

TheDrake

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Re: Deplatforming
« Reply #167 on: August 20, 2019, 01:02:30 PM »

Seriati

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« Reply #168 on: August 20, 2019, 05:04:20 PM »
Lol, so they won't allow ads by media controlled by the state, but still no problem with media controlled by the Democratic party?  ;)

TheDrake

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Re: Deplatforming
« Reply #169 on: November 26, 2019, 01:25:55 PM »
Not exactly deplatforming, but in the realm. Just recently my employer blocked bbc, cnn, and msnbc. But foxnews is still available.  ???

Seriati

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« Reply #170 on: November 26, 2019, 01:29:14 PM »
How about the fascinating news that Bloomberg will continue not to report negatively on Bloomberg, even though he's a candidate, and will extend the same courtesy to all the DNC candidates but not to Trump.

Everything that is important about a free press is openly compromised by that decision.

TheDrake

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« Reply #171 on: November 26, 2019, 01:33:14 PM »
How about the fascinating news that Bloomberg will continue not to report negatively on Bloomberg, even though he's a candidate, and will extend the same courtesy to all the DNC candidates but not to Trump.

Everything that is important about a free press is openly compromised by that decision.

That is interesting. Based on something specific and credible? Or just the general "media biased" story?

DonaldD

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« Reply #172 on: November 26, 2019, 02:02:41 PM »
Bloomberg (the media company) has an editorial policy of not investigating Bloomberg (the man).

Bloomberg (the company) in order not to unfairly benefit Bloomberg (the democratic candidate for president) will also avoid investigating (giving negative coverage?) to the other democratic candidates.

Bloomberg (the company) would have been better served to go the other way - and allow itself to investigate the man.

TheDrake

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« Reply #173 on: November 26, 2019, 02:25:34 PM »
Curious choice. I'm not really sure how you manage to cover the race at all at that point. And wouldn't it also suggest that it should refrain from any negative political coverage of the President who will one day be their opponent?

TheDrake

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« Reply #174 on: November 26, 2019, 02:28:32 PM »
My company just unblocked cnn and the other news outlets. Maybe they were listening to me....

More likely some exec overrode it because they are so liberal.