Okay. Well, just off the top of my head, we had right wing attacks on Obama on things like which type of mustard he used...
Never heard of this one, did any one take it seriously and what was the context? The google searches, where most of the articles are left wing and 8 years after the event make it look like a deliberate case of pulling up something nonsensical to justify truly hatefilled nonsense attacks now.
...was he holding coffee when he saluted his guards,...
Kind of remember that, was a breach of protocol, and I'd guess interested about 2% of the country?
...how he greeted the Saudi dictator...
This one bothered me a lot, I don't think a President should be bowing to any royalty or foreign dictator. America prohibited grants of nobility for a reason. This is fully distinguishable, from a custom where both parties bow.
...is he really an American.
I think has been beaten to death, but it actually goes to a Constitutional requirement to hold office.
In any event, that's a pretty poor list of soft criticisms that largely would have filtered through 1 station - FOX - for minor amounts of time, and a whole bunch of web based media sources - that at the time - were considered little better than extremist or fringe sources.
That doesn't honestly compare to the main stream media's deliberate campaign against Trump. Heck, it doesn't even compare to the media campaign against
George Bush. There is no comparison, as much as you want to imagine the slights against Obama were bad, the attacks on Trump and Bush outweigh them at 100:1, and the lies against those 2 are even greater.
I mean really the "worst" attack on Obama was the birther controversy, which the friendly media labelled a conspiracy theory and defended him from to the point where he didn't have to prove anything.
I get what you're saying about TDS but for your own sake don't try to pretend the opposite wasn't a thing during Obama'a term.
I actually think there was more derangement with Bill Clinton's first election than Obama's. You may recall, with Perot in the mix it really seemed like a stolen election at the time. Heck, I think I remember that Rush opened every show with a counter of how many day's it had been since the stolen election (my barber at the time was a huge fan), not that this stopped Bill from getting reelected.
On the whataboutism...I have to admit I'm confused. You're a right wing apparatchik, you spread your conspiracy theories and Facebook posts like a good boy.
Turn on your critical reasoning. What specific conspiracy theories? Are you really digging back to Obama's birth certificate as your evidence?
Meanwhile, you openly ignore the falseness of the media narratives that get pushed. I mean I read an article on the NYT's that flat our said the Trump tax cuts were a middle class tax cut, and asked why does no one believe it? Their conclusion was that Democratic propaganda so poisoned the message that people actually didn't believe the facts. We discussed that real time, has any revised their thoughts? Nope. Apologized? Nope. That was an actual propaganda effort, not an imagined conspiracy theory.
Your side already set the scene with how you treated Obama. Why in the world would you object to treating Trump the same way?
Because your concept of relativism is not true. You seem to live in a world where if the other "side" reaches across the table and steals a fry from your plate, then the seen is "set" for you to whip out a 9 mm and shoot him in the arm. There's no actual attempt at proportionate response, and the whole idea of "both sides do it" is just a cover so that your side can tell any lie, make any attack or promise anything real or imagined and it's all justified.
PS I'm not actually confused.
I agree, I think you're cynical and not prone to honest examination because of rage.
Edit - Don't forget the right wing attacks on Obama playing golf or basketball or whatever because who cares. Ya'll dinged Obama on time off, reap what you sow.
So by "reap what we sow" should we expect more attacks on Trump playing golf? Or on how he eats Ice Cream?
Or have we "sown" false claims that he raped someone?
There's plenty of legitimate reasons to criticize a President, that doesn't justify either side lying or making false representations. That's on us personally and no amount of the other side does justifies it.
