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8/28/2019

STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

We are tracking closely tropical storm Dorian as it heads, as usual, to Puerto Rico.  FEMA and all others are ready, and will do a great job.  When they do, let them know it, and give them a big Thank You - Not like last time.  That includes the incompetent Mayor of San Juan! 

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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2019, 07:42:22 PM »
8/28/2019

STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

Just watched Fox News heavily promoting the Democrats through their DNC Communications Director, spewing out whatever whe wanted with zero pushback by anchor Sandra Smith.  Terrible considering that Fox couldn't even land a debate, the Dems give them NOTHING!  CNN & MSNBC are all in for the Open Border Socialists (or beyond).  Fox hires "give Hillary the questions" Donna Brazile, Juan Williams, and low ratings Shep Smith.  HOPELESS & CLUELESS!  They should go all the way LEFT and I will still find a way to Win - That's what I do, Win.  Too Bad!...

...I don't want to Win for myself, I only want to Win for the people.  The New Fox News is letting millions of GREAT people down!  We have to start looking for a new News Outlet.  Fox isn't working for us anymore! 

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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2019, 07:45:05 PM »
8/28/19

A STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

Puerto Rico is one of the most corrupt places on earth.  Their political system is broken and their politicians are either incompetent or Corrupt.  Congress approved Billions of Dollars last time, more than anyplace else has ever gotten, and it is sent to Crooked Pols.  No good!...

...And by the way, I'm the best thing that's ever happened to Puerto Rico!

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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2019, 07:47:24 PM »
8/27/19

A STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

They do stories so big on Elizabeth "Pocahontas" Warren's crowd sizes, adding many more people than are actually there, and yet my crowds, which are far bigger, get no coverage at all.  Fake News!

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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2019, 07:49:29 PM »
8/27/19

A STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

Wow!  Yet another big storm heading to Puerto Rico.  Will it ever end?  Congress approved 92 Billion Dollars for Puerto Rico last year, an all time record of its kind for "anywhere". 

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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2019, 07:51:24 PM »
8/25/19

A STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

My Stock Market gains must be judged from the day after the Election, November 9, 2016, where the Market went up big after the win, and because of the win.  Had my opponent won, CRASH!

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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2019, 07:57:25 PM »
8/23/19

A STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

As usual, the Fed did NOTHING!  It is incredible that they can "speak" without knowing or asking what I am doing, which will be announced very short.  We have a very strong dollar and a very weak Fed.  I will work "brilliantly" with both, and the US will do great.  My only question is, who is our bigger enemy, Jay Powell or Chairman Xi? 

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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2019, 08:02:38 PM »
8/23/19

A STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

Our Country has lost, stupidly, Trillions of Dollars with China over many years.   They have stolen our Intellectual Property at a rate of Hundreds of Billions of Dollars a year, & they want to continue.  I won't let that happen!  We don't need China and, frankly, would be far better off without them.  The vast amounts of money made and stolen by China from the United States, year after year, for decades, will and must STOP.  Our great American companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China, including bringing your companies HOME and making your products in the USA.  I will be responding to China's Tariffs this afternoon.  This is a GREAT opportunity for the United States. 

Also, I am ordering all carriers, including Fed Ex, Amazon, UPS and the Post Office, to SEARCH FOR & REFUSE all deliveries of Fentanyl from China (or anywhere else!).  Fentanyl kills 100,000 Americans a year.  President Xi said this would stop - it didn't.  Our Economy, because of our gains in the last 2 1/2 years, is MUCH larger than that or China.  We will keep it that way! 

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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2019, 08:09:12 PM »
8/2/19

A STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

Kim Jong Un and North Korea tested 3 short range missiles over the last number of days.  These missiles[sic] tests are not a violation of our signed Singapore agreement, nor was there discussion of short range missiles when we shook hands.  There may be a United Nations violation, but Chairman Kim does not want to disappoint me with a violation of trust, there is far too much for North Korea to gain - the potential as a Country, under Kim Jong Un's leadership, is unlimited.  Also, there is far too much to lose. I may be wrong, but I believe that Chairman Kim has a great and beautiful vision for his country, and only the United States, with me as President, can make that vision come true.  He will do the right thing because he is far too smart not to, and he does not want to disappoint his friend, President Trump! 

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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2019, 08:15:40 PM »
3/17/19

A STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

It’s truly incredible that shows like Saturday Night Live, not funny/no talent, can spend all of their time knocking the same person (me), over & over, without so much of a mention of “the other side.” Like an advertisement without consequences. Same with Late Night Shows.  Should Federal Election Commission and/or FCC look into this? There must be Collusion with the Democrats and, of course, Russia! Such one sided media coverage, most of it Fake News. Hard to believe I won and am winning. Approval Rating 52%, 93% with Republicans. Sorry! 

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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2019, 08:24:44 PM »
1/6/18

A STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

Now that Russian collusion, after one year of intense study, has proven to be a total hoax on the American public, the Democrats and their lapdogs, the Fake News Mainstream Media, are taking out the old Ronald Reagan playbook and screaming mental stability and intelligence.  Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart. Crooked Hillary Clinton also played these cards very hard and, as everyone knows, went down in flames. I went from VERY successful businessman, to top T.V. Star to President of the United States (on my first try). I think that would qualify as not smart, but genius....and a very stable genius at that!

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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2019, 09:00:06 AM »
Trump says mean and stupid things. OK. But I, like a lot of people, don't really care what he says. I care about what he does. I think actions and results are what we should measure, not if he says things that give some people a sad.

More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
Median household income has hit the highest level ever recorded.
African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
Veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.

Record number of regulations eliminated. Freeing businesses to produce

Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.

Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.

A raft of new trade deals that are more favorable to the US.

The list goes on and on. For only a first term, this is pretty incredible. The results have been amazing and if the media weren't so rabidly biased and dishonest Trump's approval rating would be through the roof.


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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2019, 09:18:12 AM »
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The results have been amazing and if the media weren't so rabidly biased and dishonest Trump's approval rating would be through the roof.
He'd probably gain double digits if he did nothing but abstain from using twitter.

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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2019, 10:54:31 AM »
Trump says mean and stupid things. OK. But I, like a lot of people, don't really care what he says. I care about what he does. I think actions and results are what we should measure, not if he says things that give some people a sad.

A STATEMENT BY DONALD J TRUMP

1/23/16

The people...my people...are so smart.  And you know what else they say about my people?  The polls?  They say I have the most loyal people.  Did you ever see that?  Where I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters! Ok?  It's incredible. 


Seriati

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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2019, 02:08:11 PM »
I'm not sure I understand the point of this thread.

Am I supposed to not like Trump because of the things he says?  And somehow like the "other guys" who say things that demean everyone that doesn't support them?

I think Crunch points out a fair point, should I reject Trump who's making real progress on a lot of issues the political class talks about but has no intent in changing in favor of backing a member of the political class who will say nicer words but do nothing but increase the power of the political class?

For all people call Trump a nazi, the real fascists are opposing him.  For all they call him an anti-Semite, they are uncritical of the real anti-semites in their own party.  For all they call him a racist, they turn a blind eye to the actual racists in their own party and support things that were unequivacolly racist just 10 years ago (safe spaces = separate but equal; identity politics = using race in discriminatory and illegal ways).  Trumps a bully?  So is the leftist media.  Trump says mean words, so does the leftist media.  Trump's an autocrat?  Hasn't overridden a single court decision, even when they violated the Constitutional separation of powers and directly tread on executive authority, didn't terminate a witch hunt conducted on false premises either, his predecessor?  Had no problem telling the country that it would be unConstituional for him to act and then doing it anyway.

Like or not, Hillary declared half the country deplorables, that's the people not just their politicians, Obama was not much better with his dismissal of those people who cling to their religion and guns and fail to see the shining light that is him. 

Could we have a better President than Trump, absolutely and without question.  Is that person a politician?  Not a chance. 

So why the angst?  Seriously, other than his crassness, Trump is milder than just about every other President where it matters and mostly didn't care.

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« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2019, 02:13:07 PM »
Trump says mean and stupid things. OK. But I, like a lot of people, don't really care what he says. I care about what he does. I think actions and results are what we should measure, not if he says things that give some people a sad.

It's his high level of respect for other people that allows me to call Trump an idiot with a good conscience. :)

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More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
Median household income has hit the highest level ever recorded.
African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
Veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.

How much of this is because of Trump, and how much is just the natural recovery from the last recession?

Consider this chart.  Does this show Trump doing an exceptionally better job than Obama?

And if the economy goes south before the election, will you give him credit for that, too?  Or will you blame the Democrats, the Federal Reserve Bank, the media, the Chinese, and everyone else you can think of, like Trump will?

Remember: Presidents don't control the economy.  There are a myriad of other forces at play.  They can do things that help the economy (like cutting taxes), but those don't guarantee a good economy.  Contrariwise, they can do things that hurt the economy (like trade wars).  In fact, it is much easier for a President to hurt an economy than to help it, just like it is much easier to become poor than to become rich.

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Record number of regulations eliminated. Freeing businesses to produce.

And freeing business to pollute, cheat, and do other bad things that those regulations were intended to prevent.

BTW, do you have a list of those regulations eliminated?  It would be interesting to see.

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Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.

Helps our economy for now.  Not so good since it also contributes to AGW.

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Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.

Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.

It helps when you have a Senate Majority Leader that won't sit on your nominations and lie to the American people that there is some made-up "tradition" that prevents him from doing so.

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A raft of new trade deals that are more favorable to the US.

Do you have list?  The ones I've heard of (e.g. the new NAFTA) were just small modifications of old ones.

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The list goes on and on. For only a first term, this is pretty incredible. The results have been amazing and if the media weren't so rabidly biased and dishonest Trump's approval rating would be through the roof.

It amazes me that people still believe that every news reporter and editor in every single network are "rabidly biased and dishonest" about Trump, when we all know that Trump lies. :)  (Not to mention being stupid and despicable--see above.)

Seriati

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« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2019, 02:41:27 PM »
Lol, sure Wayward, it's just delusion that the media hates Trump.  It was totally their practice to cover Obama for 95% of the time from the second he was inaugerated in a negative way.  I remember how they went out of their way to cite every negative thing Obama said as a nightly headline and bury the positives and the caveat.  I remember how they went out of their way to expose all of Obama's lies on his healthcare plan and to explode every negative detail and bury the positive.

I remember how they spent two years selling a fake story about Obama, how they routinely published as fact "anonymous" and ridiculous claims about him, rather than demanding on the record proven accounts that they then buried or 'splained away.  Sure, and I remember how the NYT's had a meeting after 2 years of lies about Obama fell apart to choose a new lie to sell rather than tell the truth.

Oh and I especially remember how they didn't go out of their way to claim that any political opposition to Obama had no legitimate policy concerns about it and was only because his opponents were racist.

I mean heck, it's not like he won a Nobel Peace Prize before he actually accomplished anything like Trump.

I've also really appreciated how the media has torn apart the lies about Obama's economic recovery and the fake claim that Trump's massive boost to economic confidence was just a carry over from Obama's underwhelming policies that suppressed growth and investment.  I mean without their dedication to honesty, someone like you might be able to get away with a nonsense soundbite that sounds reasonable based on nothing more than an unexamined trend line. 

Yes, I'm so thankful that our media turns the light of truth wherever there is darkness and lies without any consideration of who it might benefit, rather than say openly and secretly committing to phrase everything in ways and only report things that benefit one party, to which they happen to overwhelming align.  Thank goodness they spent so much time pointing out how trivial Russian influence was next to their own massive propaganda efforts, to clear up any confusing someone might have.

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2019, 02:50:59 PM »
I'm not sure I understand the point of this thread.

Am I supposed to not like Trump because of the things he says?

8/2/19

A STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

Really bad news! The Baltimore house of Elijah Cummings was robbed. Too bad!


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« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2019, 02:55:14 PM »
Actually, that one was pretty funny.

Trump’s trolling of Gillebrand after she withdrew was hysterical.

8/28/19

A STATEMENT BU THE PRESIDENT

A sad day for the Democrats, Kirsten Gillibrand has dropped out of the Presidential Primary. I’m glad they never found out that she was the one I was really afraid of!

 :o ;D
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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2019, 03:02:37 PM »
So why the angst?  Seriously, other than his crassness, Trump is milder than just about every other President where it matters and mostly didn't care.

5/3/16

A STATEMENT BY DONALD J TRUMP

His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald's being — you know, shot. I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous.  What is this, right prior to his being shot, and nobody even brings it up. They don't even talk about that. That was reported, and nobody talks about it.  I mean, what was he doing — what was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald shortly before the death? Before the shooting? It’s horrible.


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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2019, 03:06:03 PM »
Is the point then to waste our time?

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2019, 06:31:34 PM »
The point is that it doesn't matter what the media says about Trump.  These are Trump's words.

The point is to see how much of Trump's own words you can take before you have to throw up.  How many fallacies, insults, conspiracy theories, stupidities, idiocies, and shameful utterances it takes before you realize that this man is not qualified to be President.

Grant isn't doing any spin.  He's not commenting.  He's not trying to tell you what you should think about any particular post, or even this thread.  He's just laying it out, clear as day, exactly what the President is saying.

If nothing else, it's going to show you what your price is.  For what you are willing to sell this nation for.  To demonstrate your values, and how much you can tolerate this juvenile behavior.

Please keep reading this thread.  And ask yourself after each one, is this the man you want to lead the greatest nation in the world?  Is this the man you want as the face of America?  Is this the man you want to have the most powerful post in the world?  Is this the man you want to have his finger on the nuclear button?

Remember--no spin.  Just President Donald Trump's own words, unaltered.

At least, that's what I think his point is.

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« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2019, 07:10:07 PM »
10/16/2018

A STATEMENT FROM THE PRESIDENT

Just spoke with the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia who totally denied any knowledge of what took place in their Turkish Consulate. He was with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo during the call, and told me that he has already started, and will rapidly expand, a full and complete investigation into this matter. Answers will be forthcoming shortly.

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« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2019, 07:21:10 PM »
2/6/2017

A STATEMENT FROM THE PRESIDENT

There are a lot of killers.  We've got a lot of killers.  What, do you think our country's so innocent? 

Take a look at what we've done too.  We've made a lot of mistakes.  I've been against the war in Iraq from the beginning.  A lot of mistakes, ok.  But a lot of people were killed.  So a lot of killers around, believe me. 

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« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2019, 07:25:15 PM »
Okay then, just the liked the ones that don't bother me at all.  Which is, so far, all of them other than the Oswald one, which in fairness I don't understand.

Still don't see the point of the thread.

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2019, 11:41:14 PM »
At a minimum, for those of us who refuse to engage with twitter, its an informative read.

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2019, 08:55:06 AM »
How so?

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« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2019, 08:58:09 AM »
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Remember--no spin.  Just President Donald Trump's own words, unaltered.

A highly selective subset of Trump’s tweets. Yeah, no way that could be spin! Literally unpossible.

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« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2019, 10:21:08 AM »
A highly selective subset of Trump’s tweets. Yeah, no way that could be spin! Literally unpossible.

4/10/18

A STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

A TOTAL WITCH HUNT!!

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« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2019, 10:29:50 AM »
11/29/17

A STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

Theresa May, don't focus on me, focus on the destructive Radical Islamic Terrorism that is taking place within the United Kingdom.  We are doing just fine!

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2019, 12:52:12 PM »
The list of Trump's accomplishments includes:

Unprecedented corruption among his appointees.
Unmitigated torrent of lies. (Notably including several tweets that "don't bother Seriati at all".)
Exploding federal deficit.
First creating a crisis for US agriculture, then increasing "socialist" payments to farmers to compensate.
Letting N. Korea do whatever they want, continue to praise the dictator.
Letting Iran get back to its nuclear program.
Advocating for Putin at every opportunity.
Emboldening white supremacists.
Got away with illegal payoff to Stormy Daniels.
Demonstrably ruined the US standing in the international community.
Won a presidential campaign based on racism and empty promises.

Then there's the lack of accomplishments:
Doing something to prevent foreign election interference.
Implementing his promised (but secret) solutions on health care.
Mexico paying for the wall.
Weren't those tax cuts supposed to boost federal revenues?

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2019, 01:04:13 PM »
The list of Trump's accomplishments includes:

Unprecedented corruption among his appointees.
Unmitigated torrent of lies. (Notably including several tweets that "don't bother Seriati at all".)
Exploding federal deficit.
First creating a crisis for US agriculture, then increasing "socialist" payments to farmers to compensate.
Letting N. Korea do whatever they want, continue to praise the dictator.
Letting Iran get back to its nuclear program.
Advocating for Putin at every opportunity.
Emboldening white supremacists.
Got away with illegal payoff to Stormy Daniels.
Demonstrably ruined the US standing in the international community.
Won a presidential campaign based on racism and empty promises.

Then there's the lack of accomplishments:
Doing something to prevent foreign election interference.
Implementing his promised (but secret) solutions on health care.
Mexico paying for the wall.
Weren't those tax cuts supposed to boost federal revenues?

2/22/2019

A STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

Fake News is so bad for our Country!

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« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2019, 01:46:49 PM »
The list of Trump's accomplishments includes:

Unprecedented corruption among his appointees.

Not demonstratable on any basis.  In fact, pretty nonsensical if you know any history, and that's before we get into Obama's corruption of the bureacracy.

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Unmitigated torrent of lies. (Notably including several tweets that "don't bother Seriati at all".)

Shrug.  90% or more of the lies are not lies, just things the leftists disagree with.  And it's not like the choices were between a liar and a truth teller, the DNC's emails opened the book on that.

So I'm taking this as a fake complaint, unless you want to walk through a couple lies and how they are more damaging than the media's lies about him, or the left's lies about policies?

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Exploding federal deficit.

Yep, though it's question complicated, I agree Trump hasn't done anything effective to cut spending and his predecessors were not spendthrifts either.

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First creating a crisis for US agriculture, then increasing "socialist" payments to farmers to compensate.

Lol, that's a masterpiece in misdirection.  I think what you mean, is biting the bullet and confronting abusive global trade practices ignored by both parties for decades while our middle class jobs disappeared and the wealthy used international trade to build the income gap; and then having the compassion to actually support those who were asked to bear the harms of trying to combat that trade policy.

Or you could just pretend that you both have a problem with the income of billionaires and the elimination of the middle class, and support the uncontrolled global trade abuse that creates that situation.

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Letting N. Korea do whatever they want, continue to praise the dictator.

Lol, that's a warped interpretation of that, that completely glosses over the actual progress.  Can you really not give any credit?
 
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Letting Iran get back to its nuclear program.

Lie.  The Iran deal did next to nothing to stop that, and everything about it gave the money to the Iranian economy it needed to get there.  Obama's policy on Iran was moronic, and did nothing real to prevent Iranian nuclear development.

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Advocating for Putin at every opportunity.

Lie.  Remind me again, who was it that did nothing when Putin annexed Crimea?  Who refused to provide support to Ukraine after promising he would do so?  Who backed off his line in the sand when Russia ignored it?

Oh yeah, who was it who was President when Russia interfered with our elections and did nothing about it, other than use it as an excuse to spy on the opposition party's Presidential campaign (something that forced Nixon to resign, but apparently has no consequence these days)?
 
Or maybe you can just list out some examples of this advocacy?  Or policies that demonstrate it?

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Emboldening white supremacists.

Lie.  He can't control how the media lies about what he says, nor the media's desire to puff up the dying breed of white supremacists for political points.

Meanwhile, not one policy that supports them, and dozens that support minorities. 
 
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Got away with illegal payoff to Stormy Daniels.

What law made them illegal again?  Just another lie here.

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Demonstrably ruined the US standing in the international community.

Maybe, of course you made the same charge against Bush, and against first Bush, and against Reagan, and it was demonstrably true that Obama did so.

In any event, whoop'dee do.  The fact that a bunch of fascists and self serving Europeans claim our "standing" is diminshed while they still follow Real Politick and cut deals with us and act the same they always have where we lead is just a talking point not a fact.
 
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Won a presidential campaign based on racism and empty promises.

Lies.  No racism in the campaign.  Better record on carrying out promises than any recent administration.

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Then there's the lack of accomplishments:
Doing something to prevent foreign election interference.

Actually false, a ton has been done, the media just doesn't report on it.  Lots of hardening of electronic resources and dedication to identifying and disrupting foreign influence campaigns.

Are you actually arguing this doesn't exist, or just making an assertion from ignorance?

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Implementing his promised (but secret) solutions on health care.

I agree, no one who claimed they had a solution for health care really did.  Let you in on a secret, neither does the left.  Unless you think it's a real plan to eliminate the wealthy and use their resources to pay for a year or two of Bernie's plan before it collapses?

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Mexico paying for the wall.

I think the interpretation on this one is particularly spitefull.  It's just a matter of fact that the US government pays for things, whether or not the economics ultimately tracks back to another source.  Trump has - without any honest basis for dispute - gotten more concessions out of Mexico on immigration than pretty much the last what 6 Presidents combined?  He's also gotten a better trade deal out of them, which Congress may hold up anyway.

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Weren't those tax cuts supposed to boost federal revenues?

You're just not paying attention, 2019 revenue is up, despite lower corporate revenue (dropping from 35% to 21% only lowered revenue by 7%) and income taxes being generally flat, despite big cuts giving the vast majority a tax break.  So how did that happen?  Literally the way it should if Trump is right, pay roll tax revenue is massively up because more people are employed and more people got raises.

So literally, Trump's theory played out in reality, and I think your angst has been debunked.

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2019, 02:01:50 PM »
It would obviously take years to deprogram you, so I'll pick just one:

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Lies.  No racism in the campaign.

He ran on bigotry against Muslims and Mexicans. You've got some kind of no true Scotsman definition of racism.

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2019, 02:10:22 PM »
In any event, whoop'dee do.  The fact that a bunch of fascists and self serving Europeans claim our "standing" is diminshed while they still follow Real Politick and cut deals with us and act the same they always have where we lead is just a talking point not a fact.
 

7/14/2017

A STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

Great evening with President Emmanuel Macron and Mrs. Macron.  Went to Eiffel Tower for dinner.  Relationship with France stronger than ever! 

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2019, 02:14:18 PM »

He ran on bigotry against Muslims and Mexicans. You've got some kind of no true Scotsman definition of racism.

6/11/2016

A STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

Don King, and so many other African Americans who know me well and endorse me, would not have done so if they thought I was a racist! 

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2019, 02:15:16 PM »
It would obviously take years to deprogram you, so I'll pick just one:

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Lies.  No racism in the campaign.

He ran on bigotry against Muslims and Mexicans. You've got some kind of no true Scotsman definition of racism.

I'll go in on the second clause that was in this particular claim:

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Won a presidential campaign based on racism and empty promises.

This has been the only Presidency that I can remember where, after being elected, the President would outright name a campaign promise and say "ok now we are going to tackle this!" Actually, the biggest problem liberals seem to have had with Trump is that he actually goes ahead with his campaign promises. Since they hated his campaign and its promises, going through with them is basically their worst nightmare. It's fine to argue that his campaign promises were horrible, but that position is incompatible with then claiming that his campaign was builty on empty promises. I've never seen a President act like such a tryhard to make his promises happen - for better or worse.


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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2019, 02:41:51 PM »
It would obviously take years to deprogram you, so I'll pick just one:

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Lies.  No racism in the campaign.

He ran on bigotry against Muslims and Mexicans. You've got some kind of no true Scotsman definition of racism.

In my view, you picked that largely because the others were things you knew you couldn't defend.

So let's ask ourselves, was Trump's running on securing the border, more likely because 80%+ of the population wanted a secure border at the time and the Government refused to do anything but lie about it, or because he hates Mexicans, in some context that's failed to appear in any of his interpersonal interactions over decades?  I know which is more likely, but haters gotta hate, so I'm guessing you don't.

Even the actual quotes here that get cited as "racist" are often falsely cropped and always pulled out of context.  I've seen hundreds of times leftists claim that Trump said all Mexicans are rapists or animals, and totally ignore the facts in question.  Something like 1 out of 3 women seeking Asylum across the border is raped on the way, there's a proven history of criminals who are deported using the open borders to re-enter (and now there's a proven history of leftist activists letting them go free when arrested rather than work with ICE to deport them). 

I've walked through at least a dozen times, how the current situation oppresses the poor and the migrants, but that falls on deaf ears because you want to believe your side is good.  Calling Trump a racist feeds a meme you want to believe about yourself while ignoring that the policies you are opposing would replace a terrible situation with a better one.

Muslims?  I've seen no evidence of that.  The so called Muslim ban was in fact a sensible targetting at countries with broken record keeping systems where the identity of the people coming in couldn't reasonably be verified.  Any anti-Muslim actions against other majority Muslim countries?  Nope.  Against US Muslims?  Not really.

Is it shocking that any real racists are not going to support the Democrat positions of Open borders and unlimited immigration from the third world without regard to who is coming in?  Not really, but the fact is that's a position that a couple hundred million people in this country could support without the least trace of racism behind it.

So yeah, I find it functionally stupid to believe that appealing to a tiny demographic of racists that everyone else in the country hates and goes out of their way to disclaim any connection to, was really the "strategy" of the Trump campaign.  You seem not to be able to consider that the strategy was to appeal to massively popular positions of a majority of the country rather than to fringe racists.  And why is that?  There's only one group that sells the narrative you're selling, and they're doing it for power, not out of conviction.

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2019, 02:42:10 PM »

This has been the only Presidency that I can remember where, after being elected, the President would outright name a campaign promise and say "ok now we are going to tackle this!" Actually, the biggest problem liberals seem to have had with Trump is that he actually goes ahead with his campaign promises. Since they hated his campaign and its promises, going through with them is basically their worst nightmare. It's fine to argue that his campaign promises were horrible, but that position is incompatible with then claiming that his campaign was builty on empty promises. I've never seen a President act like such a tryhard to make his promises happen - for better or worse.

8/21/2018

A STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

Bill DeBlasio, the high taxing Mayor of NYC, just stole my campaign slogan:  PROMISES MADE PROMISES KEPT!  That's not at all nice.  No imagination!

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2019, 02:48:15 PM »

So yeah, I find it functionally stupid to believe that appealing to a tiny demographic of racists that everyone else in the country hates and goes out of their way to disclaim any connection to, was really the "strategy" of the Trump campaign.  You seem not to be able to consider that the strategy was to appeal to massively popular positions of a majority of the country rather than to fringe racists.  And why is that?  There's only one group that sells the narrative you're selling, and they're doing it for power, not out of conviction.

7/16/2019

A STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

Those Tweets were NOT Racist. I don’t have a Racist bone in my body! The so-called vote to be taken is a Democrat con game. Republicans should not show “weakness” and fall into their trap. This should be a vote on the filthy language, statements and lies told by the Democrat Congresswomen, who I truly believe, based on their actions, hate our Country. Get a list of the HORRIBLE things they have said. Omar is polling at 8%, Cortez at 21%. Nancy Pelosi tried to push them away, but now they are forever wedded to the Democrat Party. See you in 2020!

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #40 on: August 30, 2019, 05:00:51 PM »
"Democrat positions of Open borders and unlimited immigration"

Go ahead and find me the policy statement...I'll wait.

I'll note that the Freedom Caucus killed bipartisan immigration reform that included MASSIVE spending on border security. Democrats tried to pass that. 

You're just repeating a false dichotomy that Trump has been selling, that it's his way or "open borders".

I seem to remember you were credulous of Trump's lies about a massive "invasion" last fall too.

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #41 on: August 30, 2019, 05:36:04 PM »
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"Democrat positions of Open borders and unlimited immigration"

Go ahead and find me the policy statement...I'll wait.

You didn't prove anything you said, the evidence of Trump's policies and actions is life is directly contrary to the racism story, yet according to you, Trump is a racist notwithstanding the evidence, but I have to prove that the Dems want open borders with a signed memo?

How about all but 2 Presidential candidates raising their hands to de criminalize illegal border crossings?  How about protesting any changes to the current "nonenforcement" at the border?  Protesting detaining people until their claims can be adjudicated.  Protesting removing back to a safe country for processing.  Protesting a requirement that they apply at the legitimate border crossing?  Protesting a raid on an employer that actually caught illegal aliens?  Refusing to work with ICE, or honor ICE detainers even for criminal aliens and repeated illegal crossers?  How about issuing ids that intentionally mask immigration status, or handing out freebies to incentivise coming?  How about refusing to address overworked justice systems that have never been provided the resources to actually manage the flows?

Is there something about that reality that requires I also produce a signed affadavit?  ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.

And I like how you cropped by quote, in a thread where I'm asserting the media loves to misrepresent to drop the reference to where the unlimited immigration comes from.

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I'll note that the Freedom Caucus killed bipartisan immigration reform that included MASSIVE spending on border security. Democrats tried to pass that.

Prove that to me.  What exact bill did the Freedom Caucus kill how much was the massive border security spend of the Democrats, and specifically, I'd like you to assert in a provable manner than such bill did not include obvious poison pills, like say prohibiting building a wall, prohibitting detention pending adjudication, mandating what amounts to an illegal immigrant green card and path to citizenship.

Seriously, since this is your fact situation it shouldn't be any problem for you.  Or was it just a nice sounding soundbite that you know is misleading?

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You're just repeating a false dichotomy that Trump has been selling, that it's his way or "open borders".

Nah.  The real dichotomy is that any anyone but Trump will do anything to actually control the borders.  There's a million and one things that could be done, they've all been on the table for decades and not a one of them has seriously advanced.

So, the reach dichotomy is the choice between empty promises and actual actions, you just don't get to pick the actions.

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I seem to remember you were credulous of Trump's lies about a massive "invasion" last fall too.

What lies would those be?  The ones the media had to actual support a month after Trump said them because it got so obvious it couldn't be ignored, and they really wanted to flip the script from "no crisis" to evil Trump administration runs "overcrowded concentration camps."

Cognitive dissonnance forcing people to continually ignore reality is no way to live.  Trump's not evil, get over it.

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #42 on: August 30, 2019, 05:55:46 PM »
Trump's not evil, get over it.

2/3/17

A STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

We must keep "evil" out of our country! 

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2019, 06:33:01 PM »
Which only proves that anyone who's against Trump is for evil.  Evil, I say!  Evil, EVIL, EEEEVVVVIIIIILLLLL!!! :)

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #44 on: August 30, 2019, 07:03:12 PM »
Which only proves that anyone who's against Trump is for evil.  Evil, I say!  Evil, EVIL, EEEEVVVVIIIIILLLLL!!! :)

11/1/17

A STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

CHAIN MIGRATION must end now! Some people come in, and they bring their whole family with them, who can be truly evil. NOT ACCEPTABLE!

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #45 on: August 31, 2019, 07:49:02 AM »
8/30/19

A STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

The United States of America was not involved in the catastrophic accident during final launch preparations for the Safir SLV Launch at Semnan Launch Site One in Iran. I wish Iran best wishes and good luck in determining what happened at Site One.

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #46 on: September 02, 2019, 03:51:47 PM »
Looks like Trump may have tweeted out a classified image from a spy satellite. Whoops.

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/02/756673481/amateurs-identify-u-s-spy-satellite-behind-president-trumps-tweet

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #47 on: September 03, 2019, 04:09:45 AM »
^  Primary reason the Area 51 raid sounds super lame.

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #48 on: September 03, 2019, 08:31:22 AM »
^  Primary reason the Area 51 raid sounds super lame.

I thought the reason it was super lame was getting shot and dying for no reason in the Nevada desert.

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Re: A Message from the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump:
« Reply #49 on: September 03, 2019, 10:37:14 AM »
"In addition to Florida - South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia, and Alabama, will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated. Looking like one of the largest hurricanes ever. Already category 5. BE CAREFUL! GOD BLESS EVERYONE!"

"Such a phony hurricane report by lightweight reporter @jonkarl of @ABCWorldNews. I suggested yesterday at FEMA that, along with Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and North Carolina, even Alabama could possibly come into play, which WAS true. They made a big deal about this..."

"....when in fact, under certain original scenarios, it was in fact correct that Alabama could have received some “hurt.” Always good to be prepared! But the Fake News is only interested in demeaning and belittling. Didn’t play my whole sentence or statement. Bad people!"