Author Topic: Is it Still DUI if the Horse is Sober?  (Read 1288 times)

Wayward Son

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Is it Still DUI if the Horse is Sober?
« on: September 19, 2019, 11:45:01 AM »
Apparently it is.

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wo Amish men drinking alcoholic beverages while operating a horse and buggy carrying a 12-pack of Michelob Ultra and outfitted with a giant stereo system.

It's not something you see every day. But the Trumbull County Sheriff's Department in Ohio say that's exactly what they witnessed during a routine patrol in the county's Amish community.
Deputy Eric Hermsdorfer came across the men while on patrol the early morning of September 15. When he attempted to stop and question them about drinking and driving, they leaped out of the buggy and disappeared into the woods by the side of the road, according to a police report.
Meanwhile, the horse pulling the buggy also took off, but Hermsdorfer caught up to it. The men, though, were gone.
Yeah, definitely not a routine stop.
Hermsdorfer turned the horse over to a local farmer until the two men came forward. The sheriff's department has attempted to call different people to pick up the horse, but no one has answered the phone, according to the report.
The two men could be charged with failure to comply with the deputy's commands, Chief Deputy Joe Dragovich told CNN affiliate WJW.
Dragovich also said drinking and driving laws still apply to the buggy, even if it's pulled by a horse and not licensed.

I would think that the horse would have enough sense not to do anything dangerous, mitigating most of the deleterious effects of the alcohol.

Is this another case of government overreach? :)

NobleHunter

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Re: Is it Still DUI if the Horse is Sober?
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2019, 01:19:33 PM »
I'd say the same logic for a car applies to a horse even though the sobriety of the horse can mitigate the drunkenness of the driver/rider. While a horse can be reasonable most of the time, there are situations where the human needs to be in control to prevent horse instincts from being dangerous. Or a drunk person might tell the horse to do something dangerous.

Fenring

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Re: Is it Still DUI if the Horse is Sober?
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2019, 01:28:23 PM »
I'm not sure how much of the law pertains to preventing self-harm compared to harming others, but I'd wager the chances of harming yourself in a car while a little drunk not as significant as harming yourself on a horse, where you could fall off or have various other accidents. At least in a car you're pretty protected and need to have an actual collision for you (and others) to be endangered.

TheDrake

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Re: Is it Still DUI if the Horse is Sober?
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2019, 02:41:52 PM »
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The sheriff's department has attempted to call different people to pick up the horse, but no one has answered the phone, according to the report.

No kidding. The Amish guys don't answer the phone. :P

TheDeamon

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Re: Is it Still DUI if the Horse is Sober?
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2019, 03:30:53 PM »
This is new for people in here?

Stories of people getting DUI's on horseback, on bicycles, even on riding lawnmowers mowing their yard(but within a public right-of-way for a road/highway), or even in one case(in Australia) riding on top of a motorized cooler are both out there to be found, and numerous.

D.W.

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Re: Is it Still DUI if the Horse is Sober?
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2019, 04:00:06 PM »
And it keeps getting funnier, every single time I see it!
-Beetlejuice

TheDrake

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Re: Is it Still DUI if the Horse is Sober?
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2019, 05:38:28 PM »
Sometimes you don't have to be riding anything at all.

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Authorities say that's what happened to an Albuquerque man who was arrested - again - for drunken driving, after he called police on himself.

Antonio Candelaria recently was arrested when officers found him drunk in his driveway and lying on the ground with his foot stuck in his motorcycle.

Police say the 50-year-old had called police for help after getting his foot stuck.

And an A for effort:

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A North Dakota man was on thin ice after he was arrested for allegedly driving a Zamboni while drunk during a high school hockey game.

cbs, but is it fake news?