Those are the ones -- among others -- that're reduced by getting vaccinated, vs getting the disease.
There are costs (risks) of having covid that get reduced by getting the vaccine. And there are other risks that are increased by getting the vaccine. Some of them are the same risk. Yes, death is one of them. Getting the shot reduces the chances of dying from covid influence and complications, but increases the chances of dying from influence and complications
from the vaccine.
Linnkee.If the vaccine reduces the chances of dying from covid by X%, but now there is Y% chance of dying from the vaccine, Y still happens
even if X > Y. Yes, net gain and that's good, but the net gain doesn't
eliminate the risks from the vaccine.
Or more likely, there isn't. I might as well say that we don't know the long-term effects of prior infection. In thirty years' time you might turn purple and explode! Implausible, I hear you say? Indeed. But more plausible than speculating endlessly about "unknown long-term effects" that ignore how vaccines actually work.
Why throw out a ridiculous thing like turning purple? What kind of argument is that? I'm not speculating endlessly, but "long term effects" are a real thing, particularly in the medicine field. Right, we don't know what the long term effects, if any, exist. Compare that to: I think we CAN say, with a very strong footing in being sure, that there are NO long term side effects of wearing a hard hat, temporarily, on a job.
Imagine not being able to reverse gaining a degree of immunity to a disease. How terrible!
Again with the childishness. Obviously I'm talking about the risks to one's health and well-being that can no longer be removed once you take the vaccine. Try to remember we're comparing taking the vaccine (permanent) with wearing a hard hat (temporary). And try to argue with some actual reasoning instead of childish fob-offs.
(No, not risky. Keep saying it all you like.) And not required, if alternatives exist -- like wearing a mask and getting tested
Yes, risky. Keep denying it all you like. I've already provided one link.
Here's another. From this link;
"Premier League players are reportedly concerned that recent on-field heart problems are a possible consequence of taking the Covid-19 vaccine.
There have been a number of recent high-profile incidents involving players enduring heart problems on the field - including Christian Eriksen who collapsed due to a cardiac arrest at the European Championships and Sergio Aguero who was forced into retirement after he was diagnosed with heart arrhythmia.
The worrying spate of heart-related episodes in football has raised concerns over links with Covid and the vaccination programme to prevent it."
If you investigate this a little, you'll find that athletes dying from heart attacks on the field is (was) an incredibly rare occurrence. Now there's this spike of it, and only with vaccinated athletes.
And not required, if alternatives exist -- like wearing a mask and getting tested
Except those alternatives are disappearing quickly:
Yet another link. From this link:
"But Murphy's mandate goes further than Biden's. It requires booster shots, expands the number of covered facilities and
eliminates the test-out option for all unvaccinated employees, allowing employers to fire workers for not getting their shots."
Like any sort of medical exam whatsoever.
A medical exam is not a medical procedure. You were just skeptical of my definition of medical procedure just one post ago, but now you've suddenly expanded it into an area that is very clearly NOT a medical procedure to.....what? What's the point? Can you point to a job that requires an actual medical procedure in order to get the job? Even if you can, recognize that one has a choice, in that case, to take the medical procedure or not. In the case of the vaccine, it's being mandated to get a job, or for people who already have the job/career, to eat in a restaurant, and in
some cases to even go outside. Once again, incomparable situations. We don't "do this all the time".
Comparing wearing a hard hat on a job to getting the vaccine to have a job is ridiculous. So is "having a hard time seeing the difference between the two".