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« Reply #150 on: October 26, 2020, 11:27:29 AM »
Again it is not what he did it is that he lied about it.

Again. It is always Biden and the Left who lies. The big news is Hunter's graft and payoffs to Joe Biden. Yet the deflection to moot issues like Trump no longer running his company is uppermost in your minds.

Does anyone here believe Biden has the mental acuity and strength to even run the Presidency by himself? Trump has been out of his companies for close to five years now, and canceled most international projects, at a great personal hit to his income, while donating all of his Presidential salary. Is Biden still getting his cuts from China, Russia, and the other countries that have him wrapped around their fingers? Why are you focusing on what you think hurts Trump and not on Biden's proven incapacity and peculations? The Left and the MSM poured over Kavanaugh's high School yearbook and diaries, yet can't bother to look at Hunter's hard drive. A young man smiling and wearing a MAGA hat was the top story for weeks, yet they can't even bother themselves to look at the proven story of Biden's lies and graft. Three plus years you threw everything you had against Trump's Russian collusion, now we know it was Hillary who told Obama to launch the Russian hoax against Trump to deflect from her email felonies and paid Russian sources for a disinformation dossier. Except for Trump and his supporters, there is no honor or integrity in Washington.

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« Reply #151 on: October 26, 2020, 12:10:12 PM »
Again it is not what he did it is that he lied about it.

Again. It is always Biden and the Left who lies. The big news is Hunter's graft and payoffs to Joe Biden. Yet the deflection to moot issues like Trump no longer running his company is uppermost in your minds.

Does anyone here believe Biden has the mental acuity and strength to even run the Presidency by himself? Trump has been out of his companies for close to five years now, and canceled most international projects, at a great personal hit to his income, while donating all of his Presidential salary. Is Biden still getting his cuts from China, Russia, and the other countries that have him wrapped around their fingers? Why are you focusing on what you think hurts Trump and not on Biden's proven incapacity and peculations? The Left and the MSM poured over Kavanaugh's high School yearbook and diaries, yet can't bother to look at Hunter's hard drive. A young man smiling and wearing a MAGA hat was the top story for weeks, yet they can't even bother themselves to look at the proven story of Biden's lies and graft. Three plus years you threw everything you had against Trump's Russian collusion, now we know it was Hillary who told Obama to launch the Russian hoax against Trump to deflect from her email felonies and paid Russian sources for a disinformation dossier. Except for Trump and his supporters, there is no honor or integrity in Washington.

The denial and misinformation is strong in this one.

"It is always Biden and the Left who lies" That is quite the generalization.

Please identify the International projects that Trump has canceled due to him getting elected. Other then the Russian one which he claimed in 2016 was never happening. 
Trump charges $650 a night for his entourage which includes security personal to stay at his properties. The amount of money that just the secret service has reported having to paid to Trump properties is well above the Presidential salary Trump said he is donating.
It has been reported that since his Presidency Trump company has earned over a billion dollars from countries and companies seeking "favors"

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« Reply #152 on: October 26, 2020, 12:28:59 PM »
Does anyone here believe Biden has the mental acuity and strength to even run the Presidency by himself?
Trump has pretty much shown that one can remain president, regardless of mental acuity, if you command enough adulation and blindness from your base.

That being said, Biden is clearly more prepared and better suited to be president than Trump has shown himself to be.  Yes, that is a pretty low bar, but "it is what it is".

We're not actually pretending that Trump is actually running the executive branch now, are we? 

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« Reply #153 on: October 26, 2020, 01:08:58 PM »
Does anyone here believe Biden has the mental acuity and strength to even run the Presidency by himself?
Trump has pretty much shown that one can remain president, regardless of mental acuity, if you command enough adulation and blindness from your base.

That being said, Biden is clearly more prepared and better suited to be president than Trump has shown himself to be.  Yes, that is a pretty low bar, but "it is what it is".

We're not actually pretending that Trump is actually running the executive branch now, are we?

The 60 min interviews were telling. Trump was asked most of the same questions that Biden was asked, But as the incumbent didn't understand that he has to defend his performance where as the one running against gets to respond with what they think should have been done. 
Trump did not appear as having the necessary mental acuity to lead. He came off as a baby. I can't handle the tough questions, Its not fair, I'm a victim, I'm in charge you can't question my answers. 

I believe that Trump very much is running the executive branch as he has removed anyone that might not bow to him. My expectation of Biden is that he will surround himself with capable people and that he has the ability to Listen and parse information.

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« Reply #154 on: October 26, 2020, 01:16:42 PM »
Does anyone here believe Biden has the mental acuity and strength to even run the Presidency by himself?
Trump has pretty much shown that one can remain president, regardless of mental acuity, if you command enough adulation and blindness from your base.

That being said, Biden is clearly more prepared and better suited to be president than Trump has shown himself to be.  Yes, that is a pretty low bar, but "it is what it is".

We're not actually pretending that Trump is actually running the executive branch now, are we?

Ar you truly clueless or just pretending to be? Yes, Democrats lie. If you haven't noticed Barrack told 19 big whoppers in his stand-in speech for Biden, since Biden was hiding in the basement again. His crowd of 76 was much larger than what turns out for Biden, but still outnumbered by all the Trump supporters looking on and laughing at them.

BTW: Biden is not better prepared than the average stump in a cut-down forest. He forgot Trumps name last time he spoke and called him "George." In the debate, Biden denied he was against frakking, and when Trump said he was on tape saying it, he told Trump to play them. He did. He proved Biden was lying. Where was the MSM in replaying those tapes? Does Biden know that the plexiglass he wants in restaurants and stores are made with petroleum?

As for Biden being better suited to be President, what are you smoking? For 47 years his record was embarrassing. His opponents can point at almost anything he did to prove his inadequacy. His racist rhetoric and backing his KKK mentors is embarrassing. His calling young Black men super-predators is all over YouTube. His meager political salary has never added up to an ability to live in a ten million dollar home and have a three million dollar vacation home on the seashore. The record of his family is embarrassing. He even lied about his first wife and child being killed by a drunk driver. Nothing is sacred to him. His son and other family members are all wealthy based on his political machinations, and Hunter chided the whole family for him supporting them for years, without thanks, or having to kick back 50% of whatever they got to the "Big Guy."

You dare to say anything bad about Trump, but refuse to admit who he is running against.

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« Reply #155 on: October 26, 2020, 01:32:23 PM »
...The 60 min interviews were telling. Trump was asked most of the same questions that Biden was asked, But as the incumbent didn't understand that he has to defend his performance where as the one running against gets to respond with what they think should have been done. 
Trump did not appear as having the necessary mental acuity to lead. He came off as a baby. I can't handle the tough questions, Its not fair, I'm a victim, I'm in charge you can't question my answers.
 
Thank God, Trump released the entire 60 Minutes interview so we can see how it was rigged. No, Biden did not get the same level of attack questions as did Trump. Saying so proves your own bias. Trump did not "Act the baby." He tried to set the record straight, even though most questions were of the "Have you stopped beating your wife?" variety. There is no way to answer wrongfully accusatory questions without challenging the question,which he did perfectly. And also, no one running against gets to only respond with what should have been done, when that person's own actions and words were exactly opposite of what he says should have been done.

...I believe that Trump very much is running the executive branch as he has removed anyone that might not bow to him. My expectation of Biden is that he will surround himself with capable people and that he has the ability to Listen and parse information.

Again, very elusive with the logic. The people who Trump removed were working against him, and often revealed them selves as Never-Trumpers after being dismissed. One of his main campaign promises was to get rid of the power from the political swamp. He attacks them as theu come into the light, but like in the upper ranks of the Intelligence agencies, they live in the shadows and work against their own country.

As for Biden listening to anyone, that is a fool's response. He can't remember the office he is running for or what his opponent's name is, or even what city or state he is in. He says he would do what Trump has already done and acts as if it hadn't already been put in place. He may do whatever his handlers tell him to do, but if he leads at all, it will be from the rear. The Green New Deal. in its entirety, is on his website, and was called the basic framework for all he will do. Not a Biden plan, but whoever puts something in front of the serial plagiarist.

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« Reply #156 on: October 26, 2020, 02:58:12 PM »
Did you watch the 60 min version of the interviews?

Without paying attention to the answers
Pay attention to the questions asked both Trump and Biden.

Both candidates had their answers questioned only one candidate remained cool.

I'm worried your TDS is clouding your ability of discernment.



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« Reply #157 on: October 26, 2020, 06:21:20 PM »
Did you watch the 60 min version of the interviews?

Without paying attention to the answers
Pay attention to the questions asked both Trump and Biden.

Both candidates had their answers questioned only one candidate remained cool.

I'm worried your TDS is clouding your ability of discernment.

No. The question is, did you see the full tape of the entire questioning that Trump released? If you only see the edited version, you haven't a clue, so don't act knowledgeable when you are being had.

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« Reply #158 on: October 26, 2020, 06:27:19 PM »
Big news breaking against Biden. ...But it is hard to actually see the videos or the posts, because of Big Tech blocking.

Just so you know what is being kept from you: There are hard porn photos of Hunter and underage victims. At least one is a relative that Joe and his wife are said to have colluded to cover up. Evidently, China has all the info and released four more photos of Hunter having actionable sex while smoking Crack.

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« Reply #159 on: October 26, 2020, 06:33:01 PM »
Big news breaking against Biden. ...But it is hard to actually see the videos or the posts, because of Big Tech blocking.

Just so you know what is being kept from you: There are hard porn photos of Hunter and underage victims. At least one is a relative that Joe and his wife are said to have colluded to cover up. Evidently, China has all the info and released four more photos of Hunter having actionable sex while smoking Crack.

Or we have our first deep fakes of the election season.

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« Reply #160 on: October 26, 2020, 07:31:56 PM »
Big news breaking against Biden. ...But it is hard to actually see the videos or the posts, because of Big Tech blocking.

Just so you know what is being kept from you: There are hard porn photos of Hunter and underage victims. At least one is a relative that Joe and his wife are said to have colluded to cover up. Evidently, China has all the info and released four more photos of Hunter having actionable sex while smoking Crack.

Or we have our first deep fakes of the election season.

Like I said. The MSM poured over Kavanaugh's Yearbook and calendars, yet won't bother to look at Hunter Biden's hard drive. They kept a story alive for weeks about a young man smiling while wearing a MAGA hat, yet won't allow a major story by the nation's fourth largest newspaper to be reprinted or even discussed. Everything about the hard drive is verified from chain of custody to checking the other sides of the emails. No fictitious material. Even Hunter's business partner stated personal meetings with Joe Biden being fully informed about Hunter's business dealings. Everything is real, yet the anti-Trumpers refuse to be real journalists. I'm surprised so many here in this forum are so clueless, and proud of it.

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« Reply #161 on: October 26, 2020, 07:40:57 PM »
It's sad when you can get more reliable information nowadays from Russian media than you can from American so called journalists who bury everything that doesn't fit their agenda. That's probably why our media is so upset about "Russian interference", because it is interfering with their ability to hide reality from Americans.

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« Reply #162 on: October 26, 2020, 07:49:16 PM »
Are you suggesting you can more readily access Russian propaganda on Russian media sites? 

Colour me shocked.

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« Reply #163 on: October 26, 2020, 07:59:34 PM »
Like I said. The MSM poured over Kavanaugh's Yearbook and calendars, yet won't bother to look at Hunter Biden's hard drive.

The MSM doesn’t have the hard drive. Rudy only gave it to the post. So now you expect them to run stories without being able to access the source material?

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« Reply #164 on: October 26, 2020, 08:39:24 PM »
Like I said. The MSM poured over Kavanaugh's Yearbook and calendars, yet won't bother to look at Hunter Biden's hard drive.

The MSM doesn’t have the hard drive. Rudy only gave it to the post. So now you expect them to run stories without being able to access the source material?

And the Post reporter that Rudy evidently gave it to is claiming he's offered to share it, but nobody is taking him up on it.

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« Reply #165 on: October 26, 2020, 08:43:28 PM »
Sometimes you look at their so called propaganda or the stories coming out of their media and then you look at the stories coming out of our media and you compare and contrast the two and just look at which one comes closer to the reality of the world and their media actually comes out on top.

You can look at their stories and then verify them independently including with American media sources, though not American mainstream media sources with a leftist agenda, to determine their accuracy. So it's not that the Russian media is lying. Not always anyway. It's that they often tell stories that the mainstream American media decides not to tell or tells only partially. You can often times see the same thing with the British media too. They will tell stories that the mainstream American media doesn't want to run or just does a quick drive by story on and then buries it. And that hits the other point about it too as far as truth telling. Often the American media will cover the story in a half-hearted and obligatory manner just to cover their bases but the don't go in-depth or answer many of the obvious questions so to get the whole story you have to go to the British media or sometimes the Russian media.

You can see the same thing in reverse with Fox News which won't cover most of the things you'll see on Al Jazeera. Does that mean that Al Jazeera is lying and it's total propaganda? Well, Al Jazeera isn't lying. They are showing us reality that Fox News won't show. Isn't propaganda anyway like the Russian news? If it can be propaganda and true at the same time then sure. It's the truth fitted to an agenda. And how is that different from what we're getting from our own mainstream media? What they tell us is true as far as it goes but it only goes as far as necessary to fit their agenda.

You could really see it in the yahoo news comments section where someone would share a link to another news source, often foreign, that filled in the gaps and gave the details that almost always didn't fit the liberal agenda so were omitted from the American version of the story. And now yahoo news suspended all comments, perhaps until after the election, so it's harder to find out what the American media isn't telling us.

The only way to get to reality since there isn't really any news that is unbiased nowadays is to look at it from one side and then look at it from the other to offset the parallax error.

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« Reply #166 on: October 26, 2020, 09:07:43 PM »
And the Post reporter that Rudy evidently gave it to is claiming he's offered to share it, but nobody is taking him up on it.
How exactly would he be able to do that, if the hard drive is in the possession of the FBI?

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« Reply #167 on: October 26, 2020, 09:20:45 PM »
Cherry,

Russian media 'report' exactly what they are told to without regard to facts.  They are state controlled and run complete fabrications when it suits Putins purposes.

It is rather disheartening to hear you believe they are reporting the 'hidden story'.

Anywhere Russia believes they have a strategic interest - Ukraine, Baltic, US, Russia - the stories are completely unreliable.

See

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Pillars-of-Russia%25E2%2580%2599s-Disinformation-and-Propaganda-Ecosystem_08-04-20.pdf

for a recent report on the Russian propaganda and disinformation campaigns including official media.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2020, 09:26:37 PM by LetterRip »

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« Reply #168 on: October 26, 2020, 10:50:02 PM »
And the Post reporter that Rudy evidently gave it to is claiming he's offered to share it, but nobody is taking him up on it.
How exactly would he be able to do that, if the hard drive is in the possession of the FBI?

Mack Isaac made copies of the Hunter Biden hard drive that he owned, because he was afraid of repercussions from it in the midst of the impeachment. Good thing he did, as the FBI seemed to disappeared it. After he turned over the original to the FBI, but didn't hear anything more except threats not to make waves, he looked for someone he could trust to keep him safe. He took it to Rudy's legal staff because journalism died in 2007. They got it to the Post but the MSM and big tech refused to even look at it. All the copies of the hard drive were under the seal of chain of custody and admissible in court.

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« Reply #169 on: October 26, 2020, 10:57:57 PM »
Trying to think of an example here and one might be the way the U.S. media covered the DNC hack. They focused on the fact that there was a DNC hack and it was perpetrated by Russia. Fine. Accurate enough.

But what they didn't talk about that Russian media of course was more than willing to go into detail about were the revelations of the hack, about how corrupt the DNC is and the collusion between CNN and Hillary Clinton to rig the debate by providing her with the questions in advance. So if you just listen to the U.S. mainstream media you don't get all of the available information and end up living in a reality bubble. Of course Fox covered it so there is that but the rest of the media glossed over it and it wasn't because of the way the information was obtained either. If it had been about Trump or the Republicans they wouldn't hesitate to publish and shout it from the rooftops no matter how ill-gotten the goods.

If the truth is also propaganda does that make it right to hide it?

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« Reply #170 on: October 27, 2020, 12:00:02 AM »
I understand that you are incapable of seeing the problem there, William, but most other people have no problem doing so.

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« Reply #171 on: October 27, 2020, 02:19:03 AM »
And the Post reporter that Rudy evidently gave it to is claiming he's offered to share it, but nobody is taking him up on it.
How exactly would he be able to do that, if the hard drive is in the possession of the FBI?

The drive was copied before being turned over to the FBI.

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« Reply #172 on: October 27, 2020, 02:23:41 AM »
I understand that you are incapable of seeing the problem there, William, but most other people have no problem doing so.

Trump's tax return summaries anyone? They were not released in any kind of legal manner, and not subject to third party verification beyond the New York Times saying it's Trump's Tax summary. No effort to suppress the illegally obtained information at all.

But the moment someone with a clear and compelling case of having a legal chain of custody on potential evidence regarding the Bidens? Try to call it a Russian Hoax, even after US Government officials say no intel indicates russia, and there are third parties verifying the e-mail contents...

But the MSM goes radio silent, tries to debunk it, or claims the information was "illegally obtained" (What about the Trump's taxes again?) instead?

Really?

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« Reply #173 on: October 27, 2020, 10:15:26 AM »
Trump's tax return summaries anyone? They were not released in any kind of legal manner, and not subject to third party verification beyond the New York Times saying it's Trump's Tax summary. No effort to suppress the illegally obtained information at all.

But the moment someone with a clear and compelling case of having a legal chain of custody on potential evidence regarding the Bidens? Try to call it a Russian Hoax, even after US Government officials say no intel indicates russia, and there are third parties verifying the e-mail contents...

But the MSM goes radio silent, tries to debunk it, or claims the information was "illegally obtained" (What about the Trump's taxes again?) instead?

Really?

The MSM is rightfully skeptical of the laptop. Its possible some of the material is legit, some of the emails for instance. But its also likely that there is misinformation on the laptop. I think its safe to say that there isn't child porn starring Hunter on the drive or we would have seen arrests. Or if those videos are on the drive the FBI has concluded they are fakes. And if the laptop contains some hacked emails and some misinformation then the MSM is rightly ignoring the story as disinformation.

And the only thing the media would have access to is something that claims to be a copy of the drive that has been in the hands of Rudy. Every single item on that drive would need to be independently verified before they could publish anything about it.

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« Reply #174 on: October 27, 2020, 11:28:24 AM »
I understand that you are incapable of seeing the problem there, William, but most other people have no problem doing so.

Trump's tax return summaries anyone? They were not released in any kind of legal manner, and not subject to third party verification beyond the New York Times saying it's Trump's Tax summary. No effort to suppress the illegally obtained information at all.

But the moment someone with a clear and compelling case of having a legal chain of custody on potential evidence regarding the Bidens? Try to call it a Russian Hoax, even after US Government officials say no intel indicates russia, and there are third parties verifying the e-mail contents...

But the MSM goes radio silent, tries to debunk it, or claims the information was "illegally obtained" (What about the Trump's taxes again?) instead?

Really?
Without access to the drive itself, it is not possible to validate metadata, disk sectors, file system structures, all things that would go into verifying the data, of which the provenance is in question.

For Trump's tax returns - it would be academic to show that the data was incorrect: Trump could simply release his tax returns and prove the New York Times was either lying or being played.  Also, the New York Times has a reputation to guard, and business interests at stake; they would be liable.  Giuliani, if the laptop is shown to have been faked, is not going to suffer from passing it on.  Similarly for the NY Post - they are reporting on the existence of the laptop. And neither really has any reputation at stake.

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« Reply #175 on: October 27, 2020, 12:54:41 PM »
...I think its safe to say that there isn't child porn starring Hunter on the drive or we would have seen arrests. Or if those videos are on the drive the FBI has concluded they are fakes. And if the laptop contains some hacked emails and some misinformation then the MSM is rightly ignoring the story as disinformation.

And the only thing the media would have access to is something that claims to be a copy of the drive that has been in the hands of Rudy. Every single item on that drive would need to be independently verified before they could publish anything about it.

Exactly. The normal procedure with child endangerment is immediate action with proof to follow. Since the instant reaction is missing, someone interfered with normal procedure. There is no way pictures of Hunter having sex with Malia Obama that have now surfaced would not hove required inmediate action. As a professional in the film industry, I know that pix can be Photoshopped, but video is much harder to spoof.

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« Reply #176 on: October 27, 2020, 12:59:22 PM »
You've looked the other way for Clinton, Epstein, Weinstein, and now Hunter. Good record.

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« Reply #177 on: October 27, 2020, 01:14:07 PM »
Well now it's official. You will believe literally anything.

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« Reply #178 on: October 27, 2020, 01:28:16 PM »
You've looked the other way for Clinton, Epstein, Weinstein, and now Hunter. Good record.

You looked away from everything Trump and his kids - Good record. You have no credibility.

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« Reply #179 on: October 27, 2020, 01:35:23 PM »
Clinton lost his law license, Epstein was arrested and going to trial when he died. Weinstein has been arrested and is in the process of being tried or worse. What have they been ignoring?

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« Reply #180 on: October 27, 2020, 01:53:10 PM »
You've looked the other way for Clinton, Epstein, Weinstein, and now Hunter. Good record.

Is that directed at me? I had never heard of Epstein or Weinstein until they were in the process of being outed and arrested and I never posted any defense of either. I haven't posted much in support of Bill's sexcapades either, I may of said at some point there isn't evidence he's a rapist, but that's about as strong as my defense of him went.

If there is real evidence of Hunter committing statutory rape then I'll call for him to be arrested as well. But the fact that not even the NYP ran with that story makes me think they believe the video (if one exists) has been faked.

Imagine if some video and tech savvy individuals made a realistic looking film showing Trump committing a crime involving children. Then dropped it off with a blind computer tech claiming to be Don Jr. When the video came to light should Trump be immediately arrested and then be released once the video was shown to be a forgery? 

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« Reply #181 on: October 27, 2020, 01:56:56 PM »
Also, if Hunter did have sex with minors, unless there is proof his father knew and covered it, how does that make Joe less of a candidate? The sins of the son prevent the father from being a good man?

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« Reply #182 on: October 27, 2020, 04:10:36 PM »
Also, if Hunter did have sex with minors, unless there is proof his father knew and covered it, how does that make Joe less of a candidate? The sins of the son prevent the father from being a good man?

Okay, challenge accepted. Let's look at creepy Joe Biden, who likes to touch little girls and other men's wives in uncomfortable ways and sniff their hair. He even fantasizes about little kids rubbing their hands up and down his legs to feel his little blonde leg hairs. Joe has always been creepy. Who but a self-rationalizing creep plagiarizes anything and everything to get ahead? Even when Hunter was supposedly in rehab, his hard drive showed him smoking crack, with no parental incentive to stop. The emails have been verified by simply contacting the other parties in the email chain and verifying the emails were legitimate. Please explain why that is not acceptable to you.

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« Reply #183 on: October 27, 2020, 04:17:16 PM »
Also, if Hunter did have sex with minors, unless there is proof his father knew and covered it, how does that make Joe less of a candidate? The sins of the son prevent the father from being a good man?
... Even when Hunter was supposedly in rehab, his hard drive showed him smoking crack, with no parental incentive to stop. The emails have been verified by simply contacting the other parties in the email chain and verifying the emails were legitimate. Please explain why that is not acceptable to you.

This is the point I made above. Even if someone got a hold of some legitimate emails it does nothing to authenticate anything else on the drive. Also Hunter is 50 years old, he's a little past the point where Joe can send him to his room.

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« Reply #184 on: October 29, 2020, 09:36:06 AM »
And... Tucker Carlson's dog ate his homework.  'Damning' Hunter Biden documents mysteriously vanish in transit to Los Angeles, Tucker says

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A shipment of "damning" documents linked to Hunter Biden and his father mysteriously disappeared in transit to Los Angeles, Fox News host Tucker Carlson revealed on his show Wednesday night.


"There is always a lot going on that we don't have time to get to on the air," the "Tucker Carlson Tonight" host told his audience, "but there is something specific going on behind the screens that we did feel like we should tell you about.

"On Monday of this week, we received from a source a collection of confidential documents related to the Biden family," Carlson went on. "We believe they are authentic, they're real and they're damning."

How very... convenient.

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« Reply #185 on: October 29, 2020, 09:49:02 AM »
And... Tucker Carlson's dog ate his homework.  'Damning' Hunter Biden documents mysteriously vanish in transit to Los Angeles, Tucker says

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A shipment of "damning" documents linked to Hunter Biden and his father mysteriously disappeared in transit to Los Angeles, Fox News host Tucker Carlson revealed on his show Wednesday night.


"There is always a lot going on that we don't have time to get to on the air," the "Tucker Carlson Tonight" host told his audience, "but there is something specific going on behind the screens that we did feel like we should tell you about.

"On Monday of this week, we received from a source a collection of confidential documents related to the Biden family," Carlson went on. "We believe they are authentic, they're real and they're damning."

How very... convenient.

Clearly a case of the deep state postal service workers colluding for Biden. </sarc>

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« Reply #186 on: October 29, 2020, 10:02:25 AM »
You mean Deep State FedEx or UPS or DHL since Carlson knew the USPS has been intentionally slowing down the mail at election time.

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« Reply #187 on: October 29, 2020, 05:44:50 PM »
...Clearly a case of the deep state postal service workers colluding for Biden. </sarc>

No, a case of some Biden operative who is so afraid of info getting out that they are willing to break the law in order to protect him.

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« Reply #188 on: October 29, 2020, 06:21:30 PM »
It looks like they found it. Thank goodness they went with UPS instead of the U.S. Postal Service.

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« Reply #189 on: October 29, 2020, 07:48:36 PM »
There is an investigative report circulating now, but little confirmation of just which intel agency leaked it. It looks like the FBI - but without more info, it is just a useful tool to see what is out there. It names all the players. If it is the FBI, then some patriot is afraid the info will be buried until after the election.

https://www.baldingsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/KVBJHB.pdf

Man you sure are gullible. The document is attributed to "Typhoon Investigations". Wonder who they are?

Turns out, they have a wordpress blog.

So legitimate! The gravitas is just dripping off the pages! They didn't even bother to register a domain name for $15, their contact address is @protonmail. Their archive page contains exactly one document - about Hunter and Seneca.

It get's getter.  NBC News: How a fake persona laid the groundwork for a Hunter Biden conspiracy deluge

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The document, a 64-page composition that was later disseminated by close associates of President Donald Trump, appears to be the work of a fake "intelligence firm" called Typhoon Investigations, according to researchers and public documents.

The author of the document, a self-identified Swiss security analyst named Martin Aspen, is a fabricated identity, according to analysis by disinformation researchers, who also concluded that Aspen's profile picture was created with an artificial intelligence face generator. The intelligence firm that Aspen lists as his previous employer said that no one by that name had ever worked for the company

William, what will it take to make you question your sources of information?


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« Reply #190 on: October 29, 2020, 09:53:38 PM »
William, what will it take to make you question just one of your sources of information? It seems your entire criteria is if they support your agenda or don't.

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« Reply #191 on: October 29, 2020, 10:10:58 PM »
...Clearly a case of the deep state postal service workers colluding for Biden. </sarc>

No, a case of some Biden operative who is so afraid of info getting out that they are willing to break the law in order to protect him.
Now, how exactly would that work?  Clearly, there would have been copies made of the documents, so stealing these copies would have achieved literally nothing.  Why would somebody have risked their career over stealing copies of documents?

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« Reply #192 on: October 30, 2020, 11:50:54 AM »
Just to prove to Lambert that the Left isn't completely ignoring the story, here's a post from a liberal professor who thinks Biden is too conservative, giving Guiliani full rein to tell it like it is! :)

Of course, Rudy is about what's left of those touting the story.  As ElectoralVote.com points out:

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[T]he Hunter Biden e-mail/corruption story ... hasn't taken hold outside of the far-right-wing media bubble. There are a number of reasons why: (1) the story is so full of holes it could pass for Swiss cheese; (2) the whole thing reeks of desperation; (3) the key figures in bringing "the truth" to light are Rudy Giuliani and Steve Bannon, who aren't exactly the most credible folks in the world; (4) every time there are new "revelations," they are published by outlets like The Daily Mail, The New York Post, and Gateway Pundit, which aren't exactly the most credible media outlets in the world; and (5) even many right-wing outlets, like Fox and The Wall Street Journal, have conceded that even if the claims about Hunter Biden are true, there is nothing to implicate his father.

In view of this, and with Election Day just four days away, TrumpWorld (politicians and media) have shifted their approach. Now, instead of focusing on corruption in the Biden family, they are trying to spin this into a story about corruption in the media. "Why is the fake news trying to bury this story?" is the general idea. Of course, that spin implicitly acknowledges that there is little smoke and no fire here, and so provides its own answer to the question that is being raised.

Also, there is still the open question of exactly what laws were broken by Hunter's dealings.  Is providing "access" to a politician a crime?  Is being on a foreign business board a crime?  And please don't repeat that old canard that Joe fired the Ukrainian prosecutor because he was looking into Hunter.  No one believe that  anymore.  ::)

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« Reply #193 on: October 30, 2020, 12:20:07 PM »
Further to that - I think the country is simply getting exhausted by the far-right's surrender to personal attack as the exclusive argument for voting for their candidate. 8 Benghazis, several Wikileaks, pizzagate, an Obamagate and several Huntergates later, with absolutely nothing to show for it, and people are starting to wise up - when reporting on false narratives is the only way to convince people, and when that becomes obvious to the people being targeted, the desired effect starts getting lost.

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« Reply #194 on: October 30, 2020, 02:17:25 PM »
Just to prove to Lambert that the Left isn't completely ignoring the story, here's a post from a liberal professor who thinks Biden is too conservative, giving Guiliani full rein to tell it like it is! :)

Of course, Rudy is about what's left of those touting the story.  As ElectoralVote.com points out:

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[T]he Hunter Biden e-mail/corruption story ... hasn't taken hold outside of the far-right-wing media bubble. There are a number of reasons why: (1) the story is so full of holes it could pass for Swiss cheese; (2) the whole thing reeks of desperation; (3) the key figures in bringing "the truth" to light are Rudy Giuliani and Steve Bannon, who aren't exactly the most credible folks in the world; (4) every time there are new "revelations," they are published by outlets like The Daily Mail, The New York Post, and Gateway Pundit, which aren't exactly the most credible media outlets in the world; and (5) even many right-wing outlets, like Fox and The Wall Street Journal, have conceded that even if the claims about Hunter Biden are true, there is nothing to implicate his father.

In view of this, and with Election Day just four days away, TrumpWorld (politicians and media) have shifted their approach. Now, instead of focusing on corruption in the Biden family, they are trying to spin this into a story about corruption in the media. "Why is the fake news trying to bury this story?" is the general idea. Of course, that spin implicitly acknowledges that there is little smoke and no fire here, and so provides its own answer to the question that is being raised.

Also, there is still the open question of exactly what laws were broken by Hunter's dealings.  Is providing "access" to a politician a crime?  Is being on a foreign business board a crime?  And please don't repeat that old canard that Joe fired the Ukrainian prosecutor because he was looking into Hunter.  No one believe that  anymore.  ::)

What are you drinking? Taking money from foreigners for influence peddling is not a crime? Are you serious? Yesterday we had a release from the confirmed and vetted Hunter Biden Laptop hard drive that was a recording of him lashing out at his father for taking the goodies away from him and ruining his life. He said Joe had reached out to Devon Archer on the Chinese graft rather than to him and felt he was being bypassed. As scummy a lowlife as he has proven to be, he was actually playing the victim. These are the people you champion?

No one has said "the story is so full of holes it could pass for Swiss cheese." Everything is corroborated. Especially how the MSM and Big Tech has pulled out all the stops to avoid publishing the proof. It is pitiful the depths the Biden apologists are going to avoid facing the music.
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« Reply #195 on: October 30, 2020, 02:21:51 PM »
BTW; please explain how Joe Biden earned $16 million in the two years after he was out of office. No book deals. Nothing except government pensions. Where are the journalists asking questions?

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« Reply #196 on: October 30, 2020, 02:28:41 PM »
What are you drinking? Taking money from foreigners for influence peddling is not a crime? Are you serious? Yesterday we had a release form the confirmed and vetted Hunter Biden Laptop hard drive that was a recording of him lashing out at his father for taking the goodies away from him and ruining his life.

Again you aren't using confirmed and vetted in their common understanding. A few of the emails off the drive have been confirmed and vetted, but we're still well short of the hard drive copy that Rudy has being a confirmed and vetted copy of a computer actually belonging to Hunter.

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He said Joe had reached out to Devon Archer on the Chinese graft rather than to him and felt he was being bypassed. As scummy a lowlife as he has proven to be, he was actually playing the victim. These are the people you champion?

No one has said "the story is so full of holes it could pass for Swiss cheese." Everything is corroborated. Especially how the MSM and Big Tech has pulled out all the stops to avoid publishing the proof. It is pitiful the depths the Biden apologists are going to avoid facing the music.

He literally quoted a website saying the story is so full of holes it could pass for Swiss cheese. So there is at least one person/group saying that. You have extreme blinders for data/people that contradict your world view and believe the right wing and Trump to the point of being gullible.

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« Reply #197 on: October 30, 2020, 02:34:01 PM »
BTW; please explain how Joe Biden earned $16 million in the two years after he was out of office. No book deals. Nothing except government pensions. Where are the journalists asking questions?
The question I have is - why would you make such an obviously incorrect, yet easily verified statement?

You have years, you have specific claims (no books, nothing except government pensions) and it would have taken 5 seconds to check any of that.  Is it your goal to be seen as... lightweight?

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The spike in wealth was largely attributed to sales of his 2017 book: "Promise Me, Dad," a best-selling book about the final year of his son Beau's life, came out in November 2017, almost two years after Beau died. Biden also made 47 paid speaking engagements from January 2017 through the end of May 2019, a majority of which were for the book tour. In total, he received about $4.29 million in fees from those speeches. 

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« Reply #198 on: October 30, 2020, 02:35:21 PM »
BTW; please explain how Joe Biden earned $16 million in the two years after he was out of office. No book deals. Nothing except government pensions. Where are the journalists asking questions?

Like other former presidents and VPs by speaking gigs. As a professor at UPenn and with a book deal.

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics/a31265187/joe-biden-net-worth/

If you care I'm sure you could dig up his tax returns as well. But $100k per speaking engagement adds up quick.


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« Reply #199 on: October 30, 2020, 02:39:43 PM »
William means no book he would read.

Also, Bidens' book had to have been ghost written since no president or VP ever has had a book ghost written, unlike Trump who writes all his own books. Especially those under the pen name of Tony Scwartz