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msquared

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« Reply #1700 on: October 28, 2021, 08:29:14 PM »
So no proof in this election (other than examples of Republican's doing it). Since some Dems did it 60 years ago, no election they win can ever be trusted. Hell why have elections?

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« Reply #1701 on: October 28, 2021, 08:34:51 PM »
Stop pretending Never-Trumpers in charge of any election are Republican cheaters. The audits have all shown violations of election law, haven't they?

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« Reply #1702 on: October 28, 2021, 09:38:51 PM »
I know y'all will hate to hear this but at some point the apparent lack of evidence of ANY DEMOCRAT VOTER FRAUD AT ALL is even more damning than if we saw some evidence of it but it wasn't all that much.

In other words, it's easier to believe that there was overwhelming undetectable Democrat voter fraud than that absolutely none existed.

Of course it's probably somewhere in the middle but the apparent lack of ability of our fraud detection systems to find any Democrat voter fraud at all doesn't give most people the confidence in our elections Democrats seem to assume, and even demand.

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« Reply #1703 on: October 28, 2021, 10:04:28 PM »
I know y'all will hate to hear this but at some point the apparent lack of evidence of ANY DEMOCRAT VOTER FRAUD AT ALL is even more damning than if we saw some evidence of it but it wasn't all that much.

In other words, it's easier to believe that there was overwhelming undetectable Democrat voter fraud than that absolutely none existed.

Of course it's probably somewhere in the middle but the apparent lack of ability of our fraud detection systems to find any Democrat voter fraud at all doesn't give most people the confidence in our elections Democrats seem to assume, and even demand.

Nope anything found will be seen by trumpers as the tip of the iceberg. Just look at you, we find only a few Republicans and you assume the systems are flawed. If we found something the same excuse would exist.

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« Reply #1704 on: October 29, 2021, 05:27:25 AM »
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I'm afraid that 90% of the people could vote for Trump and the Democrats would still steal it.
This worries me. I disagree with the statement and do not believe it to be true, but the fact that intelligent people can post this on open forums with apparent sincerity demonstrates that something is terribly broken in society and I have no idea how to fix it.

For the record: I'm sure there was some voter fraud, there always is, but not in quantities sufficient to make any difference and probably in similar quantities on each side (even the CyberNinja report said approx. that) and probably not not substantially greater quantity than in previous years.  I'm sure electoral law is always bent a bit, probably more this time than in previous years due to reasonable attempts to avoid disenfranchising voters who were affected by Covid restrictions or worries.  But on the whole I do actually believe that the US is capable of counting votes. I do think there are a number of "oddities" in its system (electoral college, gerrymandering, ...) that might be improved but those aren't relevant here.

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« Reply #1705 on: October 29, 2021, 07:27:40 AM »
How about Idaho?  Mike Lindell claimed that every, note EVERY, county had votes moved electronically from Trump to Biden.

Seven counties in that state do not use any electronic voting. None. All paper ballots, hand counted.  And the audit showed (drum roll please) that Biden was undercounted.

Trump still won, but Biden did better than originally counted.

And they were not Never Trumpers until they disagreed with Trump. GA officials supported Trump in the run up to the election. Trump wants people to put aside personal integrity for his own gains.  To him loyalty is the only thing, not truth.

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« Reply #1706 on: October 29, 2021, 10:18:02 AM »
Apparently when the proponents of the Big Lie have been sued for defamation, they've been unable to supply any evidence supporting their claims that the election was stolen. This can't be passed of as a failure on a point of law, like the dismissal of affidavits; these are people being asked why they said what they said and are unable to offer anything. It's going to bankrupt them.

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« Reply #1707 on: October 30, 2021, 07:23:01 PM »
So Lindell says that Trump will be re instated the week of Thanksgiving. I wonder what the odds are?

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« Reply #1708 on: October 30, 2021, 07:54:02 PM »
Are people betting that he will be? Because I will take their money.

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« Reply #1709 on: November 01, 2021, 12:48:22 PM »
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Overall, 58% said they trust elections in the country either a great deal or a good amount.

But while almost 9 in 10 Democrats and 60% of independents said so, just a third of Republicans agreed.

https://www.npr.org/2021/11/01/1050291610/most-americans-trust-elections-are-fair-but-sharp-divides-exist-a-new-poll-finds

90% of democrats trust elections, 60% of independents and 33% of Republicans. Democracy wept. Trump is still killing our nation. Worst president ever.

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« Reply #1710 on: November 01, 2021, 04:46:53 PM »
Lindell is just a regular guy, looking for truth, when possible. You look to obfuscate and find lint on the lapel. Who cares if there was a place that didn't use a computer? the ones that did were compromised. Your only argument was "how badly were they compromised."

The argument now isn't to throw Biden out, even if he did cheat to get in. The argument is about fixing potential cheating - and the Democrats want nothing to do with that. Quite telling.

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« Reply #1711 on: November 01, 2021, 04:59:51 PM »
"The argument is about fixing potential cheating - and the Democrats want nothing to do with that."

If no cheating by Democrats can ever be found and proven then there is nothing to fix. The system is working as intended.

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« Reply #1712 on: November 01, 2021, 05:29:40 PM »
If cheating can be found and proven, then we generally know there is no widespread fraud of the kind that was caught, do we not? I mean it would be really strange for a store to catch two or three shoplifters a year, and yet actually be losing significant inventory to shoplifting, wouldn't it?

Most of the hypothetical ways of cheating that are brought up (aka dead voters) are actually caught in small quantities.

Pick your category. Illegal immigrant voting, felon voting, mail in fraud, harvesting fraud. No evidence of widespread use, some evidence of scattered incidents.

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« Reply #1713 on: November 02, 2021, 07:17:03 AM »
Comment from Breitbart:

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The Democrat mantra is vote early, vote often.

This is complete and utter BS. Enough with this insane 'early voting' crap.

ONE DAY. Make it a holiday if you want. ONE DAY, show up in person, or you don't get to ****ing vote. Exceptions ONLY for people physically out of the state or country.


This is how out of touch many republicans are. As if early voting helps cheating somehow. Holidays work great for banks and schools. What about convenience stores, all retail, service industry, transportation, etc? They all getting the same one day off to vote? BTW, with the bus drivers all getting the day off, how are any of the people who rely on public transit getting to the polls?

Well, maybe that's just some random Breitbart crackpot. Nope.

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It’s not the first time West attacked early voting. In September, West and a handful of Republican officials sued Gov. Greg Abbott over his decision to extend early voting by six days amid the coronavirus pandemic.

What is clear is that early voting reduces pressure on urban population centers and allows people living there to avoid massive election day queues and makes voting more convenient for people working long hours or multiple jobs. Republicans wouldn't want that, and it is a transparent ploy.

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« Reply #1714 on: November 03, 2021, 02:33:25 PM »
And Republicans look to have won a close race in Virginia and greatly exceeded expectations in New Jersey. Are Democrats just getting worse at cheating? Or are elections not actually rigged and more people just see Trump as the toxic waste dump of a person that he is?

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« Reply #1715 on: November 03, 2021, 02:53:16 PM »
All of these elections were rigged.  I mean Trump didn't get any votes.  How could that be?  How could he drop from 74 million votes to none?  There is no statistical way that can happen.  So there must have been transfers of votes behind the scenes. Trump won every election across the country.


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« Reply #1716 on: November 03, 2021, 03:20:47 PM »
All of these elections were rigged.  I mean Trump didn't get any votes.  How could that be?  How could he drop from 74 million votes to none?  There is no statistical way that can happen.  So there must have been transfers of votes behind the scenes. Trump won every election across the country.

It's almost like there was a conspiracy to keep him off the ballot everywhere. I think it goes super deep. I mean, real deep, all the way back to the writing of the constitution deep. Talk about the deep state conspiring against Trump. All those founding father's making elections every 4 years preventing Trump from running again now. The conspiracy is deep, all the way to the foundation of our country.  The deep deep state, even the dead and buried state is against Trump.

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« Reply #1717 on: November 03, 2021, 05:17:40 PM »
Ignorant responses based on complicit media not reporting on proven vote scamming by Democrats is quite normal/ I've seen that for decades. In 2009, ACORN reorted on thier own voter discrepancies. "The arrests are 'further evidence we've been policing our own folks and report people attempting to commit voter registration fraud,' said ACORN spokesman Brian Kettenring." This was really some individuals who were trying to defraud their employer."

Problem there is ACORN was all over the country doing the same thing - not just in Dade County. In Nevada, ACORN had hundreds of bogus voters. The entire roster of football teams, for instance.

The manual vote recounts being insisted on by Democratic operatives in Palm Beach County, Fla., have been used for over 20 years to steal elections from Republicans, claim several GOP veterans of hand-recount election-upsets.

According to Bob Haueter, chief of staff to the California Assembly Republican Caucus, and an expert on manual recounts, a Democrat lawyer intimately involved in "stealing" elections from Republicans through hand recounts admitted to the process and even shared the techniques involved.

...An automatic recount still left GOP nominee George W. Bush ahead by a slim 288-vote margin, Palm Beach elections officials decided that a manual recount of all 425,000 votes should be undertaken.

"What's happening in Florida is exactly the game plan laid out to me by an attorney who represented the Democrats in a recount in California where they stole a seat from us." It is endemic and always has been.

ACVR found that, despite their heated rhetoric, paid Democrat operatives were far more involved in voter intimidation and suppression activities than were their Republican counterparts during the 2004 presidential election. Whether it was slashing tires on GOP get-out-the-vote vans in Milwaukee or court orders stopping the DNC from intimidating Republican volunteers in Florida, the evidence ... shows that paid Democrat operatives were responsible for using the same tactics in 2004 that they routinely accuse Republicans of engaging in.

Similar to Wikipedia reports taken down by Wikipedia Founders who didn't want scientific studies of Global Cooling to exist on their servers, most court proceedings against Democrats for vote scamming also disappeared.

Just look at the mindset. Hillary lost to Trump, and immediately invented reports on Russian intervention to explain her loss. We now know she did it all. The Russian intervention was on her side - not Trump's, yet to this day, the complicit media  repeats her accusations. Millions were spent and unfounded impeachments held. Unfounded. Nothing but blocking and negative reporting while Trump just went ahead performing seeming miracles in the face of unbelievable venom.

No. You do not get to skate on Democrat propensity of vote scamming. Hundreds of affidavits witnessing vote scamming were not proved wrong in court. They were just ignored. Take the time to explain about the non-existant water main break used to clear out the poll watchers. Don't be so snooty and dismissive. Actually use your brains and explain it.


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« Reply #1718 on: November 03, 2021, 06:08:23 PM »
Before I send the money off to the Salvation Army, I have a question.

When they say 86,391 Ballots Related Invisible Voters, how did they determine they were "invisible?"  Did they compare it to a database of voters?  If so, what database was it?

For my $10, I think you could at least answer that. :)

I noticed that you haven't answered my question, William.  Don't you want the Salivation Army to get some much needed cash? :)

Or did you sense that maybe you shouldn't try to answer that question.  That maybe, if you did, I might come back with another question or a statement that would prove, even to you, that your statement wasn't really true?  Because, deep in your heart, you know that what they've been telling you isn't on the up-and-up?  That it really isn't true, but because you want it to be true, and you want to belong with those who believe it is true, that there are questions that you really shouldn't ask, and really shouldn't inquire after?  Because if you did, you might lose your identification with that group.  You might begin to doubt them.  And doubt is the one thing anathema to Trump supporters, isn't it? :)

Which is why Trumpsters are so pathetic.  When a group tells you shouldn't ask certain questions, and you shouldn't find out  about certain facts, then you know that those are the things they are afraid of.  That that is their weakness.  That that is what will show them to be frauds and liars.  Like a good cult, they will tell you that you shouldn't ask certain questions or find out certain facts.

So will you find out which database they used to determine the "invisible voters?"  Or would you prefer to keep the blinders on like they would like you to?  ;D

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« Reply #1719 on: November 03, 2021, 08:26:36 PM »
Another case of voter fraud.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/column-crying-fraud-republicans-silent-120009082.html

Again by a Republican.

So far from what I have found, every case of vote fraud has been by a Republican. Are they just dumber than Democrats at how to do this?

I seem to recall a city-council race in New Jersey that was invalidated in 2020 due to widespread voter fraud... And the candidates involved were Democrats. But as it was a local election and not the November Presidential election, most would ignore that.

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« Reply #1720 on: November 04, 2021, 02:45:05 AM »
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/20/politics/paterson-new-jersey-city-council-voter-fraud/index.html

"The Attorney General has charged four individuals in Paterson, NJ—including one sitting city council member and one candidate for city council who nominally won his race—on charges arising from a scheme to collect and illegally mail in hundreds of absentee ballots in that election. That scheme led to a crisis in Paterson, requiring that the city hold another election between the indicted candidate and his opponent because it is impossible to determine just how many fraudulent ballots were cast," the Trump campaign and Republican Party wrote challenging New Jersey leaders.

"It was a local election in Paterson. Some guys tried to screw with the system," Murphy said on MSNBC Thursday. "I view it as a really positive data point. They got caught."

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It's a good thing that Democrats intent on voter fraud only care about local elections and every time they try it, 100%, they get caught and the fact that no Democrats were caught trying to commit voter fraud in the national election proves it.

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« Reply #1721 on: November 04, 2021, 07:51:18 AM »
So your proof of unfound election fraud is an example, at the local level, of voter fraud that was found out by the system. The system worked.

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« Reply #1722 on: November 04, 2021, 08:00:38 AM »
Local elections have always been the rational target of fraud. It doesn't require coordinating an interstate cabal. Let's assume that these same people were also manipulating the national election. They would have accomplished nothing with their hundreds of ballots.

Since we can see these guys were caught, and that one-off fraudulent votes have been caught, is it logical to believe that widespread fraud has flipped national elections. I'll grant you, Florida 2000 would be such an exceptional possible case, but I don't see how a plot could know in advance they could change things just a little bit.

As to why these guys were willing to risk up to 10 years of prison, that argues to the idea that they thought fraud would be easy.

Let's look how they were caught. Massive amounts of signature rejection that raised flags. Bundled ballots mailed together.

The second one probably could have been avoided by a more clever cabal. One could imagine them being invested enough to wander from one mailbox to another in every neighborhood. It's not impractical.

The first one is highly problematic. Where would one get thousands of representative signatures with which to commit fraud?

The one-off frauds of Republicans easily could be replicated by Democrats. Sending in a vote on behalf of your dead spouse is a lot easier to forge. It also doesn't matter. That's not the kind of fraud we need to be terrified by. Maybe the Democrats just haven't been found yet.

heritage database

You'll find plenty of one off examples here, some of which are Democrats.

In Philadelphia in 2020, there were 3 republicans and 1 democrat.

Why is it important to understand that Republicans and Democrats do it? Because if there are roughly equal amounts of fraud, there is no change to election results.

Here's another anecdote:

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Domenick Demuro, a Judge of Elections in Philadelphia and a Democratic ward leader, accepted bribes to add fraudulent ballots to voting machines and falsely certify election results for certain Democrat candidates in the 2014, 2015, and 2016 primary elections. According to the DOJ press release, Demuro “admitted that a local political consultant gave him directions and paid him money to add votes for candidates supported by the consultant, including candidates for judicial office whose campaigns actually hired the consultant, and other candidates for various federal, state and local elective offices preferred by that consultant for a variety of reasons.” Demuro pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to deprive Philadelphia voters of their civil rights and one violation of the Hatch act. He will be sentenced on July 20, 2021.

I'm sure there are more schemes to cheat local elections by finding one or two key individuals to corrupt. Isn't it telling that there aren't such examples of individuals scheming to sway statewide elections?

What was his mechanism?

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“Demuro fraudulently stuffed the ballot box by literally standing in a voting booth and voting over and over, as fast as he could, while he thought the coast was clear.

Now I wonder which of the repressive republican voting bills will address such a case?


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« Reply #1724 on: November 09, 2021, 10:58:41 AM »
"We setup the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization
 in the history of American politics" - Joe Biden"

And that's all I need to know about that website. An out of context quote from a random podcast that was seized upon by 8chan and breitbart NPCs.

As Fox News managed to grudgingly admit in their article:

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On Oct. 25, Fox News published a story picking up on Biden’s mix-up, with the headline “Biden says in video he has created ‘voter fraud organization’” ( here ). The 5th paragraph of the story states that “Biden may have been referring to his campaign's massive "election protection program," which includes former Attorney General Eric Holder and hundreds of other lawyers in preparation for a legal battle in the event of a contested election.”

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« Reply #1725 on: November 09, 2021, 12:25:50 PM »
That bothers you, yet you constantly roll out the old Trump "Very Fine People" misquote.

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« Reply #1726 on: November 09, 2021, 01:17:58 PM »
Except that, you really didn't feel that Trump was completely sincere with his denunciations of White Supremacists when he praised some of their side as being "very fine people."  ::)

In contrast, the full text/words of Biden show that the quote mine is factually wrong and the exact opposite of what Biden actually meant.  In other words, a bald-faced like meant to deceive the gullible.

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« Reply #1727 on: November 09, 2021, 03:11:18 PM »
There you go again.  Also, How do you know what I felt?  Can you read my mind?

Wayward Son

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« Reply #1728 on: November 09, 2021, 04:07:39 PM »
My apologies.  I was referring to the universal "you," as in anyone, not you in particular.

Perhaps I should rephrase it as "Except that, one really didn't feel that Trump was completely sincere with his denunciations..."

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« Reply #1729 on: November 09, 2021, 05:38:39 PM »
I'm sorry, how is that a misquote?

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According to a transcript from the White House, the Trump quote in question was in response to a reporter who asked, "Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?"

Trump responded: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves — and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."

It wasn't at all out of context. Some people have said that Trump meant the Nazis were fine people, which he did not. But neither was this some kind of exoneration. Marching around adjacent to Nazis, brandishing firearms and confederate flags, attending rallies staged by white supremacists with speeches by white supremacists defending the legacy of slave owners, this exempts you from being a "very fine person" and you are not morally equivalent to a person who is angry about all of those things.

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« Reply #1730 on: November 09, 2021, 09:09:46 PM »
“Biden says in video he has created ‘voter fraud organization’” . The 5th paragraph of the story states that “Biden may have been referring to his campaign's massive "election protection program..."

It just struck me as funny if the "election protection program" is actually just the euphemism being used for the campaign's massive "voter fraud organization" with Biden experiencing a senior moment and letting the cat out of the bag.

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« Reply #1731 on: November 09, 2021, 09:12:53 PM »
I remember that statement, I still like to poke fun at it. In the full context, it's clear that what he said isn't what he meant. But it was undeniably what he said. And it makes for fun times claiming it was a Freudian Slip.

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« Reply #1732 on: November 19, 2021, 11:30:08 AM »
The head of the RNC has finally admitted Biden won.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/republican-national-committee-head-ronna-152558924.html

I wonder what names Trump will call her now?

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« Reply #1733 on: November 19, 2021, 12:14:19 PM »
I wonder what names Trump will call her now?

Probably nothing.  She states that she still believes that Trump is the head of the Republican party and that it cannot win without him. 

I really can't fathom the level of sycophancy that I have witnessed from educated people to elevate a failed New York real estate developer with zero ability to messiah-like stature.  That being said, he's been gone a year and people still can't get over him.  Demon or savior, there's no inbetween. 

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« Reply #1734 on: November 19, 2021, 12:29:42 PM »
Not the fist time such 'men' have tapped into such a Zeitgeist. Its not reason but a subconscious phycology issue.
Not much can be done but to watch it play out

TheDrake

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« Reply #1735 on: November 19, 2021, 01:49:17 PM »
What has the study of algae to do with anything?

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« Reply #1736 on: November 20, 2021, 09:39:49 AM »
So no proof in this election (other than examples of Republican's doing it). Since some Dems did it 60 years ago, no election they win can ever be trusted. Hell why have elections?

So….

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The office of Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced 134 felony charges were filed against Gregg County Commissioner Shannon Brown and three co-defendants in connection to an alleged vote harvesting scheme involving a Democratic primary in 2018.

All 4 democrats.

 8)

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« Reply #1737 on: November 20, 2021, 09:47:20 AM »
What has the study of algae to do with anything?
It is the next evolution of the Republican Party? (sorry - just too easy) :-)

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« Reply #1738 on: November 20, 2021, 10:39:10 AM »
Good example. Fits with my understanding of voter fraud. Incentive is much higher the more local the election. The fraud was detected using existing systems. The presidential race was entirely unaffected, especially since it was Texas.

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« Reply #1739 on: November 20, 2021, 12:24:07 PM »
Crunch

Besides what has already been said, that charge was brought over a year ago, before the 2020 election.  How about evidence for the 2020 election?

And has been said, it was local and it got caught.

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« Reply #1740 on: November 22, 2021, 01:22:13 PM »
It is also interesting to see what they were charged with (not just the titles):

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“To increase the pool of ballots needed to swing the race in Brown’s favor, the group targeted young, able-bodied voters to cast ballots by mail by fraudulently claiming the voters were ‘disabled,’ in most cases without the voters’ knowledge or consent,” the AG’s office said in a statement.

Notice there was no mention of those votes being changed in any way.  No votes cast by people not allowed to vote.  No double votes.  No forcing people to change their votes.  Just allowing people to provide their legitimate vote in a manner that wasn't allowed by local ordinances.

This is the worst case of "fraud" that you can find for the past 60 years?  Democrats are a whole lot better than I thought!!  ;D

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« Reply #1741 on: November 23, 2021, 12:50:49 PM »
Mike Lindell's promise to bring the case to the Supreme Court has run into issues and he blames the GOP.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mike-lindell-blames-vast-gop-171131963.html

Let's use Occam's Razor. Which is more likely.  That the RNC has orchestrated to obstruct him, or his suite is frivolous because he has no case and everyone else knows it.

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« Reply #1742 on: November 25, 2021, 05:03:15 AM »
https://news.yahoo.com/jacksonville-men-charged-falsifying-voter-230541961.html



"The discovery of at least 60 voter registration applications for people who were dead or did not authorize them has led to the arrest of two Jacksonville men, the State Attorney's Office said."
Both the State Attorney's Office and Supervisor of Elections Mike Hogan said the motive doesn't appear to be political but for financial gain.

"This was a group working with what we call a third-party organization," Hogan said. "... We did not see anything political about it. It was, I think, people who were greedy. There's an incentive there to get as many as you can in."

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Not political. That was amusing.

Nothing political about it. Nope. Just wanted to make it look like as many people were voting so it seems like people care. They probably split the votes pretty much 47-47 between Democrats and Republicans with 6% thrown in for third parties.

Tip of the iceberg or we caught just about everyone doing this kind of thing? Not that it matters since it wasn't political anyway so each major party probably got an equal number of votes so it wouldn't influence the election.

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« Reply #1743 on: November 25, 2021, 09:50:34 AM »
What are you talking about, seems like people care? Also would be a political motive.

I'm baffled about taking such a risk on 60 votes for a paltry gain. Financial or political.

They were caught on inconsistencies, since they didn't know anything about the prior registration information. Anyone smart enough to avoid detection would also be smart enough not to do it

There is no indication that anyone attempted to cast ballots on the fraudulent registrations, is there? Very little political benefit to registering someone and then not casting a ballot.

The larger the amount of registrations, the more likely it will be detected as clerks have even more opportunity to spot something.

Meanwhile, Florida has one of the strictest voter ID laws in the nation, which I thought you said was supposed to nip fraud in the bud?

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« Reply #1744 on: November 25, 2021, 03:13:35 PM »
"I'm baffled about taking such a risk on 60 votes for a paltry gain."

Exactly. That would be a pointless exercise in futility just for 60 votes.

It makes no sense at all.

Unless... it's only a small part of a grander design.

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« Reply #1745 on: November 25, 2021, 03:50:44 PM »
Lol. So this is one of thousands of inept teams but only a handful have been detected? This seems plausible to you? Or are you suggesting that there is an uncoordinated autonomous collective that have been inspired by the cheating ways of the Democrats to sway an election? In which case, did they just forget to cast any actual ballots?

Meanwhile, a competing narrative is that a couple of idiots that have no better way to make money than registering voters thought they would never get caught, or didn't understand what the penalty was, wanted some extra spending money?

Even if it were a crazy scheme, these individuals are still risking those penalties for a silly amount of votes.

msquared

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« Reply #1746 on: November 26, 2021, 04:32:51 PM »
Well here we are, the day after Thanksgiving, and Trump is still not the President.  Lindell's suit to the SC is a no go since no state AG will sign on with him.  He has put out some of his evidence at the Cyber-symposium but it got shot down by his own people. He has put forth no new info except to accuse the RNC chair of sabotaging his efforts. What will the  next date be?  Christmas? Jan 20 2022?  Jan 20 2024?

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« Reply #1747 on: November 27, 2021, 01:30:45 PM »
Sure enough...

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/dr-fauci-not-surprised-omicron-181740793.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

"The Omicron COVID-19 variant could already be in the United States, according to Dr. Anthony Fauci.

"I would not be surprised if it is," Fauci, 80, told Peter Alexander and Kristen Welker Saturday on Weekend Today.

Fauci said the strain — currently known as B.1.1.529 — "has a large number of mutations" particularly affecting the virus' ability to bind to cells in the nose and lung.

"We have not detected it yet [in the U.S.]," he added, "but when you have a virus that is showing this degree of transmissibility and you're already having travel-related cases that they've noted in Israel and Belgium and in other places — when you have a virus like this, it almost invariably is ultimately going to go essentially all over."

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So knowing this and with everyone freaking out because the vaccines may not provide the hoped for protection against this variant, he still went out and said it was safe for all the vaccinated to gather for the holidays anyway.

Maybe omicron won't live up to the hype and it won't be a big deal but that wasn't the case with delta which did live up to the hype and was a pretty big deal.

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« Reply #1748 on: November 27, 2021, 02:01:57 PM »
Wrong thread. Ah well, them's the breaks.

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« Reply #1749 on: November 27, 2021, 04:01:47 PM »