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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: September 22, 2021, 01:26:15 PM »
It's interesting how cherry values integrity differently for the various people involved in covid-19.

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General Comments / Re: Afghanistan
« on: September 21, 2021, 06:34:58 PM »
"Seven Kids were kills so that America could look tough."

They were also killed because of the reliance on over the horizon warfare tactics. It's a tragic irony and quickly fatal repudiation of Biden's assurances too because we were promised that we could still strike effectively at terrorists even after we pulled out using such means and the very first time it results in this type of tragic mistake, one that could have been avoided with ground intel. Unfortunately those ground assets were all sent underground and into hiding or fleeing for their lives when we unleashed the Taliban on them.

The ongoing battle between the Air Force(and other proxies/equivalents) and every other organization still continues. Technology and air power alone are not, and never will be, adequate to the task of assuring America's military objectives on their own.

Unless we're willing to become a completely callous society as it relates to both how we wage war, and how we view the lives of others in that context.

You're never going to avoid the need for "boots on the ground" the best you can do is limit the number of them you need.

Tell that to Ender Wiggin. :)

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: September 21, 2021, 06:33:57 PM »
It took this long for you to find it and take it at face value.

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Papers, confirmed as genuine by a former member of the Trump administration, show they were hoping to introduce “human-specific cleavage sites” to bat coronaviruses which would make it easier for the virus to enter human cells.

Color me skeptical. The full article of course comes from the nearly radical Telegraph, and the author has been bleating

The report comes from D.R.A.S.T.I.C, which is also far from objective. Their website oozes credibility, don't you think?

It was founded to try to prove a foregone conclusion in their minds, China Bad.

Meet the team.

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(Decentralized Radical Autonomous Search Team Investigating COVID-19)

The Origin of SARS-CoV-2 is a Riddle:

Meet the Twitter Detectives Who Aim To Solve It

MM hm. All this may turn out to be accurate, but I'm not buying it on the say so of two dozen twitter warriors, most of whom are anonymous.

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General Comments / Re: Afghanistan
« on: September 20, 2021, 05:18:14 PM »
I talked before about the kill em all strategy. Twenty years of collaboration "on the ground" only gave us handfuls of dubious strikes in the first place. Just fire away on poor intelligence, we're bound to hit some terrorists.

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: September 20, 2021, 05:15:51 PM »
But if you ask the right wing press, vaccination doesn't do anything, mandates are illegal, masks don't work, and covid isn't that bad anyway.

I'm guessing that forced vaccination and /or testing for asylum seekers wouldn't stop newsmax or oan from beating the covid border drum.

Know how I know this? Because as of October 1, people applying to immigrate will have to show vaccination. Asylum seekers at El chaparral crossing are lined up to get vaccinated. Without any sign of approval of the policy changes.

Of course it might be because members of the right wing press are having a hard time writing new stories as they work hard to earn their own Herman Cain Award

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: September 20, 2021, 03:47:30 PM »
Just opened our borders to travelers from 33 countries but somehow the right wing press is silent on this relaxation of borders in the middle of a pandemic. It's almost like their border agenda had nothing to do with the virus.

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Common sense measures would include contraception, including unsolicited mailing of condoms to all households, making condoms and birth control purchasable by EBT without counting against benefit totals. Fully covered by national health plans.  Except then you'd get religious zealots whimpering about their principles being violated.

More of a nudge would be to put child tax credit on a sliding scale - except it is unclear that this would serve to reduce population as much as punish the ones increasing it.

You could make it legal to pay someone to sterilize themselves in a private transaction, and you could fully cover the cost as above for contraception.

I'm not sure how much that would actually be viable in the countries in question, such as Mali or Syria. I know far too little about it.

Going the furthest down the scale is the China model with forced abortions and massive fines.

I don't recall any clarity of what happens to an unsanctioned "third" in Ender's Game, but I believe it fell along the lines of the China model.

LR the problem with the "means" test is that a vast array of economic fortunes can befall a person in 18+ years. For that model to make sense, you'd actually only be able to procreate if you had the money to raise them in trust - which clearly isn't viable. Or you could grant procreation licenses like giving out mortgages. You'd have a baby underwriter who would examine all your parenting and economic skills before getting there.

Then there's Heinlein's model in Starship Troopers. There you are only granted a procreation license if you have performed a Federal Service, proving your reliability and loyalty to the state and filling holes in a military that suffers from a lot of attrition.

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General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: September 20, 2021, 01:20:50 PM »
Well duh. They don't want the internal emails discussing how to commit their own fraud to be made public.

Can't they at least tell us if the paper was Chinese? I'm dying to know.

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Moral questions are always framed in terms of perfect world or behavior.

The question here would be, is revenge morally justified in any way. Because many people would not see it that way. Of course some moral codes justify throwing acid in someone's face also.

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What if the "system" is complete anarchy and collapse of formal institutions? This would have been the case in Somalia, might still be.

A lighter form of vigilante justice appears to be perfectly acceptable to much of American society. A retribution beating if someone assaults a family member, rather than reporting it to police for instance.

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Well, yeah. They're bad people. They got away with the active promotion of painkillers for uses that were totally inappropriate. But that happened with the Explicit assistance of the doctors writing prescriptions, state agencies that were either asleep or equally bad.

Let's be clear that they never violated any criminal statute, this is all about whether their pay off was big enough. Meanwhile the executive leadership of the company is far more culpable. And, FYI, three of those execs were found criminally guilty.

Let's also note that they are not getting off particularly lightly, paying out 4.5 of an estimated 11 billion net worth.

You might as well say vigilante Justice is warranted for any plea deal where the perpetrator doesn't face penalties deemed sufficient by victims.

Back to vigilante justice as a concept. What if your court system is hopelessly corrupt, and the individual in question was a multiple murderer? Certain drug lords fall into that category in South America. I think you could claim that morally, someone plotting an execution for that individual is on relatively safe ground.

In the case of sackler, maybe vigilante justice might apply to stealing their money and giving it to their victims. Rand explored that concept in atlas shrugged.

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When did Indulgences not exist in one form or another?

But what they did pales compared to people writing the scrips, people pushing providers, etc. Why do people want vigilante justice against them rather than the people closer to it, and much more unethical - at least in my view.

What form would vigilante justice take in that case? Murdering sackler? To my point of view, I would ask what ethical transgression sackler is guilty of? Helping people get access to an addictive substance? Convincing providers to expand protocols?

Why shouldn't vigilante justice for opiates lead to firebombing the AMA instead, who didn't work to Purge Dr feelgood from their ranks?

Enabling people to indulge in an addiction hardly seems to rise to vigilante solutions. Even if it is reprehensible.

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I feel like the lack of specificity means that this isn't an abstract philosophical question, but perhaps some kind of setup. The most recent application of vigilante justice in the US press is about the Texas abortion law, but an inaccurate usage.

Full apologies if this is in fact a pure philosophical question in the abstract. If so, we'd have to start with what form of justice we are talking about. Most times vigilante is used is in situations where society at large generally agrees with the fact that someone committed a crime. We have guys like Goetz in real life, who felt that crime was so rampant he was lying in wait to punish someone. There are fictional characters like Bronson in death wish. Even Liam Neeson in taken falls into this very broad category.

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General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: September 15, 2021, 09:59:00 AM »
He might be letting proxies undermine the results instead of doing it directly, or maybe a 20-30 point margin is too much for even him to blame on fraudulent mail in ballots.

As for California and Democrat recalls leading to republican governors, it's not exactly unprecedented.

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General Comments / Re: Sept 18 DC rally for Jan 6
« on: September 15, 2021, 08:58:19 AM »
I think it is cute that they are pretending that biden supporters are among the 700 or so people expecting to attend. Counter protestors of such a fringe event would be bloc guys who loathe biden almost as much.

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General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: September 15, 2021, 08:49:40 AM »
Are you sure about that?

“Let’s be gracious in defeat,” Elder said at an Orange County rally for volunteers, even as some of his supporters called on him to not accept the result. “We may have lost the battle but we are going to win the war.”

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: September 14, 2021, 05:19:13 PM »
It is also hard to conceive if you die of covid. Dumb anecdotes aren't science, neither is a self-selected survey. You could have a few million women eat a banana, and a certain number of them will have a menstrual cycle change. It doesn't mean bananas will make you infertile. My grandpa got the covid shot and he died of a stroke three days later! Boogie boogie boogie!

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General Comments / Re: New trans laws
« on: September 14, 2021, 11:25:50 AM »
Regarding consent, etc. You can solve that problem by posting a sign "trans individuals are welcome in this locker room, as a result you might glimpse a penis". But that's never the proposed solution, the proposed solution is "we can't allow trans individuals into that locker room". It's also only about terrible predatory men, we don't hear about how awful it might be if someone caught a glimpse of a vagina in the men's room. It's a weird juxtaposition that extreme feminists and anti-trans individuals appear to agree that being in ownership of a penis means you are a rapist waiting in the wings and we must make rules to guard against you.

You can even codify that if you want to, California already has a hundred different things that people are required to post in establishments, from "employees must wash hands" to "beware: carcinogens!"

Meanwhile, most sexual crimes are committed by people known to the individual in question. You should be more worried about a kid's uncle or teacher than somebody lurking in the spa bathroom.

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General Comments / Re: New trans laws
« on: September 13, 2021, 01:26:46 PM »
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And making that distinction gets you labeled as hateful by some "trans-rights" activists,

Context again. If someone says they are male, and you ask if they are trans male, that's just bad. If you are talking about equality for trans males, no problem. If you are calling them trans males because you don't want them using the men's room, yeah they probably don't like that much.

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General Comments / Re: New trans laws
« on: September 12, 2021, 11:45:57 AM »
Can a word exist in different states in different context?

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Words are not inherently meaningful. They derive their meaning from four elements of language: the intent of the user, the understanding of the audience, the context in which they’re used, and the historical ‘baggage’ by a particular word.

I think this description is right. "You my N" said to a close friend is indeed quite different from "Shut up, N" said to a guy on the street.

Just like "a-hole" or "dick", etc.

Sometimes the same two people saying the same thing will be different because of the audience. Audience matters, and it includes everyone in earshot. Earshot including everyone who was there, saw a recording of the usage, or heard about it. Audience has grown exponentially, which is why most of these words are just better not used.

"cis-male" need not be pejorative, but it certainly can be. Especially when used in a group context, like "F all cis-males"

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: September 11, 2021, 07:55:23 PM »
It's almost like they are just now realizing that "right to work" really means "right to fire".

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General Comments / Re: New trans laws
« on: September 09, 2021, 02:36:04 PM »
I'm not sure why the risk to opposite sex kids is any different than the risk to same gender kids that already exists. We currently don't scrutinize men going into the men's locker room to make sure they won't expose themselves to little boys in an inappropriate way.

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General Comments / Re: Pedestal available
« on: September 09, 2021, 06:58:00 AM »
Carver is a cool idea. In general we should have fewer generals as statues and more scientists.

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General Comments / Pedestal available
« on: September 08, 2021, 12:42:18 PM »
Virginia has managed to get through various court challenges and Lee is gone to an undisclosed location. There is now a pedestal available, hopefully to be filled with a winning general like Grant who preserved our precious union under the Constitution.

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General Comments / Re: Misleading or false claims by the media
« on: September 08, 2021, 12:13:42 PM »
I don't know what TV news talking heads are doing, but wapo, BBC, and nyt have been pointing to the withdrawal as a disaster and splattering stories everywhere about the negative. Most polls show that biden voters agree and that as a result his approval overall has plunged.

So I don't get this concept of unwavering support without criticism.

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General Comments / Re: The Jan 6 Commission
« on: September 02, 2021, 09:35:47 AM »
Is powell still available to fight this illegal subpoena in court voting non existent law? If the biden administration wanted to, they could have pulled all this info using a national scoring letter, I think. Then we wouldn't even know about it.

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: August 31, 2021, 06:57:55 AM »
If you compare Biden's mask policies to the mask policies of many governors along with Trump's for the longest time especially the way he made fun of them for a long while Biden was onboard from the beginning then the difference is stark and I give Biden credit where it's due. He's better than most Republicans on the mask issue.

I'll just leave that full stop for now and maybe get to the "but" later on just so the admission can be savored and relished for a while.

Appreciated, and there's clearly room for criticism as well, and that can't get glossed over even if someone is "generally better"

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: August 31, 2021, 12:38:02 AM »
Costco has a cafeteria too, so I guess we won't need masks there either. So do most office buildings, as well as lunch rooms. If you were going to be exposed to radiation would you forgo the lead vest if it were only offered part time.

If you Google school cafeteria covid you'll see that your concern is far from novel and solutions include social distancing, staggered lunch times, and lunch delivery to home rooms. In many parts of the country the kids could take a sack lunch out to the playground.

You'll have to try harder to justify why you want to give biden zero credit for a strong pro mask policy.

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General Comments / Re: Afghanistan
« on: August 31, 2021, 12:28:12 AM »
We seem to be much better at creating failed states that are havens for terror than propping up their alternatives. Like trying to prop up the shah, and creating the Islamic revolution, or trying to prop up the Mujahideen and creating the taliban. Our removing Sadam and paving the way for isil.

Maybe we should sit on our f-ing hands for a decade or two.

Maybe we

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General Comments / Re: Afghanistan
« on: August 30, 2021, 03:16:47 PM »
Afghans were doing the fighting. That makes it sound like we weren't at risk. They weren't doing all of it. From 2016 to 2019, 64 US service members were killed. Not sure how many were just maimed.

Endless fighting also matters on the financial front as well. $45 billion in 2018.

BTW, the kill em all strategy isn't a straw man either. It doesn't even need much of a troop presence. Just drone targets removing civilian deaths and intelligence confidence from the equation. Expensive in terms of reputation and dollars, but doable.

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: August 30, 2021, 01:38:11 PM »
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The letters were sent to officials in Iowa, South Carolina, Utah, Oklahoma and Tennessee, all of which bar local districts from mandating masks. The letters allege that these states may be preventing districts from meeting the needs of students with disabilities who are at heightened risk for severe illness should they contract the coronavirus.
The move follows up on President Biden’s promise earlier this month that the Education Department would use its authority to try to stop states from interfering with school districts that want to require masks. Governors argue that masking should be a personal choice for parents and families, and over the last few weeks, the disputes have reflected the larger national pandemic debate over personal freedom vs. public health.

Want to give biden an attaboy, cherry?

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General Comments / Re: Afghanistan
« on: August 29, 2021, 03:56:31 PM »
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What about the one that was working reasonably well in 2016, and was only really fatally undermined in 2020?  Is that 'ruled out on time' too, or do you have specific criticisms of that?
 

This strategy to me lands in the "fought on endlessly" camp. Now sometimes fight on endlessly can eventually resolve to progressively better. We might consider northern ireland such a model for what that could look like. But I don't see how you get a bunch of corrupt dudes propped up by the US into a power sharing agreement with the taliban with a taliban disarmament. Not when neither side is particularly interested in a western style representative government.

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: August 29, 2021, 03:45:08 PM »
Actual scientific examination found that mask wearing in Japan contributed to their lower transmission rates, but notes other factors and concludes that mask use was not a particularly strong factor. Did it help? 100% it did, no question. But it doesn't look like the star atop a Christmas tree, it's just one of the better ornaments.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7207161/

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: August 27, 2021, 02:44:09 PM »
Meanwhile in mask news. One judge has ruled the DeSantis anti mask order to be unconstitutional. This seems far more impaction than non binding recommendations by cdc or the biden administration that DeSantis ignored in this case.

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General Comments / Re: Afghanistan
« on: August 27, 2021, 11:13:57 AM »
I had a whole answer and the back button wiped it. I concede that there is a dictionary definition of surrender that applies.

I truly don't see much room for anything that isn't fantasy other than the two options that I listed. You can call them straw men if you want, or you can give me the elevator speech that shows me my error and a functional strategy that would work in 2021. Not one that might have worked in 2005.

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General Comments / Re: Afghanistan
« on: August 26, 2021, 05:04:18 PM »
Surrender has a very specific meaning, we didn't disarm ourselves and show up on one of the talibans battleships and agree to their terms. Retreat would be more appropriate, in the proper parlance, or withdrawal.

You could certainly say we lost. Had we allowed the Afghan government to participate, that wouldn't even be surrender.

Even when Cornwallis surrendered his army at Yorktown, England did not surrender to the United States.

The term is clearly employed here to suggest we should feel shamefully emasculated and that we should have instead fought on endlessly or to employ a "kill em all" strategy like the successful conclusion to ww2 conflicts. Where Germany and Japan most definitely did surrender.

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: August 26, 2021, 10:06:38 AM »
How about a really sad reality show called Covid House where equal parts of infected, immunized, masked, and previously infected all live in a big house together.

Entertaining and educational.

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: August 25, 2021, 05:06:12 PM »
My company just officially pushed office return to November 1st.

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General Comments / Re: Afghanistan
« on: August 25, 2021, 04:31:47 PM »
5% of people polled by CBS think the withdrawal from Afghanistan went "very well".

🤔😢

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General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: August 25, 2021, 03:35:01 PM »
More law breaking by conservative lobbying groups giving out false info to suppress the black vote in 2020.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/conservative-hoaxers-face-5-1m-152755529.html

How do you suppose they thought they would get away with that one? You're going to robocall people and nobody will notice or know how to report it?

Breitbart and their readers don't seem to care about this one. Weird.

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: August 25, 2021, 12:36:55 PM »
Meanwhile, Nebraska is openly recruiting unvaccinated nurses to come infect veterans at state run facilities. No clear idea of whether they are also recruiting the unmasked, but the folks in their ad aren't wearing them.

https://www.3newsnow.com/news/coronavirus/no-covid-shots-required-nebraska-ads-for-nurses-criticized

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: August 25, 2021, 12:28:50 PM »
I hope they're only charging people who choose not to be vaccinated.

Correct.

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: August 25, 2021, 11:32:19 AM »
Here's another thing private companies can do. Delta is going to have unvaccinated employees take weekly covid tests and pay up to $200/mo more for health insurance. It's hard to find but I believe they all have to wear masks as well. Including non customer facing.

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: August 25, 2021, 11:15:05 AM »
There's definitely more we can do on both fronts. Biden is responding to republican governors pretty strongly. School districts that want mask mandates have been threatened with loss of state funds, biden is firing back by threatening those governors with loss of federal education dollars.

The same technique could be used to condition federal dollars on mask policies and vaccination. Medicare and medicaid dollars are about to be preconditioned on staff vaccination mandates for nursing homes.

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: August 24, 2021, 09:23:35 PM »
You misunderstand me. I'm all for mask mandates. I'd like abbot to put one in place statewide in Texas. I'd like every school district to have one without interference. If it were legal, I'd be all for a federal one with significant fines. That doesn't mean that vaccines should be downplayed, which seems to be your tone. You say we need both, but you only ever seem to be touting one, but only with a focus on the federal guidelines, which is just weird.

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: August 24, 2021, 07:35:22 PM »
And yet... Israel is one of the most vaccinated countries on Earth but still they're experiencing a massive covid surge. And why is that? The same reason we are. They thought that if enough people got vaccinated then they didn't need universal masking anymore. Big mistake. And we went right over that same cliff with them.

Israel is proving the folly of the course we seem intent on even though we see it doesn't work. Vaccines are no substitute for masks. Without both the virus wins. That's just so patently obvious and still our government won't do the right thing.

Define one of the most. They are barely more than the US at 68% versus our 60%. That's not so hot. You're implying that somehow this disease is ripping through Israel because of transmission from vaccinated to vaccinated, which is simply not the case. Your rant is a little untimely, since Israel restored their indoor mask mandate two months ago after just 10 days of removal. Do you research anything before you start beating your worn out drum?


https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-s-20-unvaccinated-now-account-for-half-of-all-serious-covid-19-cases-1.10146662
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210627/israel-indoor-face-masks-back-as-delta-variant-rises
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-57594155

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General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: August 24, 2021, 07:20:23 PM »
That'll make for some fresh conspiracies. Since covid isn't real Soros and the Clintons must have had them killed to suppress the report that never gets finished and released because everyone is dead.

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: August 24, 2021, 03:21:13 PM »
Good idea from the onion.

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ATLANTA—Urging the nation to protect themselves from the worst, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a warning Monday that going unvaccinated is not worth the risk of losing the ability to taste wings. “We are pleading with Americans who are yet vaccinated against Covid-19 to realize they are in severe danger of losing and never fully recovering the ability to appreciate a big plate of wings,” said CDC director Rochelle Walensky, who implored vaccine holdouts not to wait any longer, lest they lose the ability to taste and smell succulent and crispy wings forever. “Buffalo, barbecue, lemon pepper, garlic Parmesan, mango habanero—these are the precious and tangy flavors at risk. And this isn’t just about your ability to fully smell and taste wings, either. Together, we must safeguard our family’s ability to taste wings, our friends’ ability to taste wings, and our neighbors’ ability to taste wings as well.” At press time, nationwide vaccination rates had surged to 95%.

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General Comments / Re: The Jan 6 Commission
« on: August 24, 2021, 06:32:33 AM »
I guess we can let all of the BLM protester off the hook as well, since they were protesting actual slavery and hundreds of years of racisim? I mean what would we expect them to do?  Hell, I am surprised they did not do more. The treatment of the black community for the past 200-300 years more than justifies their reaction, right?

Have any meaning number of BLM protesters actually been brought to court? Prosecutors seemed to be almost eager to let them walk.

People keep saying that, but I haven't seen any evidence that prosecutors ignored or refused to charge individuals who threatened or committed bodily harm.

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General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: August 23, 2021, 08:28:51 AM »
Trump tried to give the vaccines a boost at his Alabama rally and his followers booed him. So he quickly changed his tune.  Not surprising.

Only Trump would hold an unmasked, unvaccinated super spreader rally in a hotspot where hospitals are already overwhelmed.

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