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General Comments / Re: The Trump Papers
« on: October 01, 2022, 06:42:20 PM »
It must be nice to have your own pet judge there to say you don't have to follow the rules of the Special Master you selected.

I'm not sure I know the law well enough to determine that the special master did have that authority. Any evidence what other judges are saying?

General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: October 01, 2022, 09:41:27 AM »
I've never defended Hunter. He's a deeply flawed craven who rode shameless nepotism by proxy to riches he didn't deserve. But whenever you bring up any topic about justice, he gets trotted out. Since I was mocking the view that MAGAs have of the justice system, it seemed appropriate to include their most popular hit.

General Comments / Re: So, how is Uncle Joe working for you?
« on: October 01, 2022, 09:23:08 AM »
But other causes are outside policymakers’ control. The European Central Bank, which sets policy for 19 of 27 E.U. countries, has acknowledged it can only do so much to fight inflation caused by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. “The war is obviously something no central bank can do anything about,” Eshe said.

The same is largely true for the trajectory of the pandemic, which now mainly depends on the evolution of new variants.

All of that puts policymakers in a bind: They can address part of the inflation problem, but not all of it. That will limit how much policy can bring down price increases in the coming months.

So if there were a decision that Biden could have made, he could have drawn a line in the sand to prevent the invasion with unpredictable results. Or he could have withheld aid to Ukraine so that it would be overrun quickly, avoided sanctions, and generally sacrifice an entire country to make our stuff cheaper. Neither of those options is particularly palatable to me, and there's no way to avoid inflation with the invasion as-is. None.

General Comments / Re: So, how is Uncle Joe working for you?
« on: October 01, 2022, 09:15:30 AM »

"Unrelenting inflation is taking a toll, leaving more Americans living paycheck to paycheck"

"Even high-income earners are feeling the strain, the report found. Of those earning more than six figures, 45% reported living paycheck to paycheck, a jump from the previous year’s 38%...

... Although real average hourly earnings also rose a seasonally adjusted 0.2% for the month, they remained down 2.8% from a year ago, which means those paychecks don’t stretch as far as they used to.

A separate report by Bank of America found that 71% of workers feel their pay isn’t keeping up with the cost of living, bringing the number of people who feel financially secure to a five-year low.

Many Americans are dipping into their cash reserves, and nearly half are falling deeper in debt."


Biden is crushing it. Am I using that term correctly? Well he's crushing Americans under debt and financial insecurity. We used to hear about how the low information MAGA voters were hurting their own financial self interest by voting for Trump but it seems like they knew what they were doing if this is the alternative. Financially, America cut off its nose to spite its face by choosing Biden over Trump.

Inflation hits record 10% in 19 EU countries using euro

Oddly, Europeans haven't figured out that the inflation is Biden's fault.

General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: October 01, 2022, 09:12:59 AM »
A conviction for Election Fraud in NC.  Guess who was involved?  Not Democrats.

From most of the stories about election fraud the Republicans claims of fraud sure seem to be projection. They know there is fraud going on because they are the ones committing it.

That's only because of the corrupt justice system in all fifty states that only try to prosecute Republicans while giving Democrats a pass. WWG1WGA

PS Wh0t 4bout Hun7erZ L4pT0p!

General Comments / Re: Who funds the candidates?
« on: September 30, 2022, 07:53:29 PM »
The marginal utility of researching a candidate is approximately zero.

It is irrational to learn about a politician enough to make an 'informed vote' unless you are someone who can spend a lot of money to influence the election of a candidate or have a lot of social influence.

No more or less so than the marginal utility of voting at all. But I think you're wrong because you are thinking of whopping giant races like Mayor of New York or Governor of Georgia.

Your local school board and city council are likely decided by a few hundred votes if not fewer. The same reason that in local races, the marginal utility of cheating is so much higher. I couldn't find online information on what two competing council candidates had as policy goals. One of them responded to me with a thoughtful response. The other didn't respond at all. Research complete. Was that irrational?

General Comments / Re: Who funds the candidates?
« on: September 30, 2022, 05:50:09 PM »
Personally, I think the problem is not with campaign money, its the fact that voters are so damn stupid that seeing political ads changes their opinion.

If you're going to go down this rabbit hole it gets much darker than just 'public stupidity'. You are looking at a populace uninvolved in the operation of politics, unschooled in civics, mistrustful of government (on both sides), and subjected to an economic system which deliberately puts them in the position of having to work free overtime to prove their worth and having zero free time to ponder the study of candidates. Realistically you expect all of them to spend their free time doing research? Aristotle may have had a glimmer of a point when he suggested that only gentlemen of leisure could be expected to pursue virtue in any serious way. That may be dated and overstated, but it does point to the fact that if you take away too much free time, apply too much stress, divide the classes too much, and otherwise incentivize mindless pleasure to decompress from a stressful life, you are simply not going to get anyone but intellectuals who will push themselves to do private study.

Sure. That's a fair presentation. Part of the reason why I oppose mandatory voting, and I hate the "get out the vote, just vote" blanket message. It should be "it's August, register and start researching candidates in your area."

I don't think for most people there's not enough time. It might take 3-5 hours if you want to research every candidate. So if you just don't watch a football game, you can get it done. People don't care to. Most of them already set who they would vote for, and all the ads just keep reminding them not to forget - kind of like a Coca-Cola ad.

Money doesn't entirely buy wins though, Bloomberg showed us that much.

General Comments / Re: Who funds the candidates?
« on: September 30, 2022, 02:40:00 PM »
Personally, I think the problem is not with campaign money, its the fact that voters are so damn stupid that seeing political ads changes their opinion.

General Comments / Re: Who funds the candidates?
« on: September 30, 2022, 12:56:58 PM »

This and other breakdown on opensecrets (the definitive follow the money site for federal offices), do not show an overwhelming advantage to Democrats.

General Comments / Re: Who funds the candidates?
« on: September 29, 2022, 10:51:33 PM »
Why don't you just skip the pretense of posing a question and just tell us your conclusion that no one will be able to sway you from.

General Comments / Re: So, how is Uncle Joe working for you?
« on: September 29, 2022, 11:32:34 AM »
I retract my statement about gun control. Republicans did agree to compromise, well 15 out of 50 Republican Sentors did.

What did the Ultra-MAGAs have to say about it?

Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Georgia Republican, vowed to "remove" GOP senators from office for backing the bipartisan gun bill, describing the 15 lawmakers as "sellouts."

The Senate passed the bipartisan legislation late Thursday in a 65-33 vote, marking the most significant step toward gun reform from Congress in nearly three decades. Fifteen GOP senators, including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, voted in favor of the bill, despite the strong opposition of former President Donald Trump.

Conclusion: There is no compromising with the Ultra-MAGA. Anybody who doesn't toe their uncompromising line is a "sellout" or "traitor".

General Comments / Re: So, how is Uncle Joe working for you?
« on: September 29, 2022, 09:34:34 AM »
Biden and the Democrats made many attempts to compromise. They ripped out half of their proposal, and we're met with, zero. The only acceptable position to republicans is zero new spending, zero new entitlements, zero new programs. Zero tax increases. That's not possible to compromise with. You can't divide by zero.

“We spent hours and hours and hours over months and months working on this," Biden said. "No one got everything they wanted, including me. But that's what compromise is. That's consensus. And that's what I ran on."

General Comments / Re: Trump looses again
« on: September 28, 2022, 06:30:32 PM »
It's not really tournament rules, its etiquette. You don't have to be in a tournament to know that you NEVER EVER advance beyond the away golfer, unless you are pals and you are on the opposite side of the fairway. You'll get thrown out of any club in the country for repeatedly driving your cart onto the green, unless you happen to own the place. You replace your divots (or let your caddy do it, if you're rich), you certainly don't interfere with someone else's ball. Trust me when I say that any golfer who got paired up with someone playing like Trump on a public municipal course would get pissed off. I don't think that you'd put up with someone grabbing your ball and throwing it in the sand trap, would you? If you're playing pool for the fun of it, is it okay if your opponent just picks a ball up off the table and drops it in a hole?

I'm impressed you read the book, though, wm.

General Comments / Re: So, how is Uncle Joe working for you?
« on: September 28, 2022, 06:23:31 PM »
The people Biden vilified and called dangerous, how would you envision Biden reaching out to them? You know, you've got a really good point that I might have stolen the election. My son can often act like a piece of *censored*, he should probably go to jail. I got loads of cash from the Chinese and Ukranians, I am after all "the big guy". I just *censored* my pants just like you thought I did. I'm doing my best to destroy the economy, just like you knew all along. I can't wait to put you all in concentration camps.

How do you compromise on those values? If we're talking about about some of the divisive policy issues, should Biden support a weak national abortion ban? How about withholding federal education funds used to buy LGBT books? He certainly made his attempt to compromise on gun laws, and he got a "never give an inch" response. Name one thing he could have done to get Republicans to support him, on even just that one issue, that wouldn't have sold out his core beliefs and those of his supporters.

General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: September 28, 2022, 05:30:10 PM »
Well Sydney Powell's counter suit gets tossed.

Her claim? That their defamation suit was an abuse of process. That was it. One suit was an abuse of process.

I wonder if she was ever a real lawyer?

I'm starting to think that getting suits tossed is part of their design. Look at all the suits they brought where they absolutely knew that they didn't have standing. So it gets tossed, and they get to claim it is because the system is biased, AND never have to actually show the evidence and have it rejected. This one will be used to continue to undermine faith in the justice system. Because Cleetus and friends will be told its anti-Trump bias, and they will lap it up. Look at all the suits they refused to hear! It MUST be because they didn't want the evidence to get out! Ignoring the fact that any evidence they had could just be posted to a website.

General Comments / Re: So, how is Uncle Joe working for you?
« on: September 28, 2022, 12:53:24 PM »
Abolitionists were extremely divisive. That didn't make them wrong. Nelson Mandela was divisive. So were all the founding fathers. So it seems silly to point at divisiveness as a negative character trait in a vacuum.

General Comments / Re: Guns
« on: September 28, 2022, 12:51:05 PM »

Don’t go sophist on me. Grosskreutz chased Rittenhouse down, threatened him physically, feigned retreat, and then pointed a semiautomatic pistol at Rittenhouse. He lost his right bicep over his actions, and complained that he regretted not killing Rittenhouse.

If the word “deserve” confuses you then substitute “invited”. Does your man Grosskreutz have a moral basis for complaint?

I'll answer that question that according to your apparent worldview, Grosskreutz was completely within his right to try to detain or neutralize someone who had already fired his weapon at Rosenbaum. He was your "good guy with a gun" and his big mistake was that he hesitated and also wasn't sufficiently armed with his own semi-automatic rifle with a high capacity magazine.

According to my worldview, Grosskreutz shouldn't have gone down there armed, deserved to be arrested for doing so as it should be a gun free zone, and should have let the authorities deal with Rittenhouse.

The argument that got Rittenhouse off was that the unarmed Rosenbaum posed enough of a threat walking toward Rittenhouse that he was justified in ending his life. In my worldview, the moral thing to do would have been a tactical retreat by Rittenhouse, which he made no attempt to do.

If you saw a guy shoot an unarmed man in the crowd, and you are carrying a firearm Noel, are you going to watch him go or are you going to Judge Dredd the guy before ever finding out what was going on? There's a reason why cops shoot the "good guy" when he's toting a weapon after taking down the actual criminal.

Rittenhouse might have been a good shot, but his tactical awareness was atrocious. Even a cursory reading of Sun Tzu would have indicated that numbers matter. he was completely banking on the entire crowd cowering at his manly image with an eagle soaring over him. Not a great strategy. If more members of the crowd were armed, as you advocate, he would be dead now. And they also would have got off as being justifiably in fear for their lives.

General Comments / Re: Guns
« on: September 27, 2022, 11:19:42 PM »
Drake, Tom,

I just recalled that Gaige Grosskreutz, the self-styled “medic” who had his right bicep vaporized by a reasonably well aimed shot from Rittenhouse, is one of you. He pointed a semiautomatic pistol at Mr. Rittenhouse after feigned submission, and immediately regretted it.

Did he deserve to be shot?

Deserve is an interesting word. To quote Eastwood's character in unforgiven, "deserves got nothing to do with it". It's a construct that crusader types fantasize about. Punishing the wicked.

Did Rosenbaum deserve to get shot for throwing a plastic bag at Rittenhouse? Did Rittenhouse deserve to get shot for sticking his neck out and confronting and angry mob? It is always a tragedy when a life is lost. Particularly when it could have been avoided.

This entire chain of events happened because Floyd didn't deserve to die, most people think. Although there's a significant number of people who thought that he deserved to suffocate because he was high on drugs and resisted.

That's the problem with posting judgement, which I think Jesus had something to say about. Not the meme Jesus wrapped in the American flag, but the philosopher who advocated for peace and forgiveness. The one who forgave the people who executed him.

Reducing the ability of people to go judge dredd on their fellow citizens, that's a good thing. If Rittenhouse didn't have his long gun, he probably wouldn't have had the bravado to even go down to the protest in the first place. And more people would still be breathing today.

General Comments / Re: Guns
« on: September 27, 2022, 10:08:00 PM »
That's hard to break down. My opinion could be disregarded by the unsavy (sic) voter?

Assuming you meant unsavvy, that would mean that the ignorant could ignore my arguments? They usually do, they usually do.

General Comments / Re: Guns
« on: September 27, 2022, 08:33:15 PM »

You just proved my point.

“A semiautomatic assault rifle” is oxymoronic terminology. That is why we laugh at, and deride you.

Would it make a difference if we called them the McGuffin Rifles? It's still going to be the same list. If me and my people have their way, you won't get to have AK47s, Ar-15s, or any other nonsense rambo weapon that you all pose with on social media to look tough, like Rittenhouse. How about we just say semiautomatic rifle, that's clear enough and to the point, is it not?

General Comments / Re: Guns
« on: September 27, 2022, 07:25:37 PM »
Here's your definition, Noel.

Assault Weapons Ban of 2022

It really doesn't matter what anybody thinks the term means, this is how it is defined for the purpose of legislation to reduce mass slaughter. There is nothing fluid about the proposed legislation.

General Comments / Re: So, how is Uncle Joe working for you?
« on: September 27, 2022, 01:14:52 PM »
I just wish anyone who complained about unlawful IRS audits of non-political conservative groups would also list the names of these supposed non-political conservative groups. 

It's always fun to see people argue that this "Tea Party" group or that "Patriot" group had absolutely nothing to do with politics while also arguing it was only the politically conservative of these groups that were targeted.  ;D

This. They are always careful not to argue that they were not, in fact, political groups. Because it is nakedly obvious that they are.

Trump "charity" is a political advocacy group

In a Washington, D.C., townhouse just blocks from the U.S. Capitol, multiple figures connected to the failed plot to overturn the 2020 election have coalesced around an increasingly influential organization: the nonprofit Conservative Partnership Institute (CPI).

Among those at the center of the group are former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and former Trump campaign lawyer Cleta Mitchell. Both Meadows and Mitchell have been subpoenaed by a grand jury as part of a Georgia district attorney's investigation into former President Donald Trump's effort to overturn the election.

An NPR review of social media accounts, campaign finance records and leaked audio suggests that CPI may be risking legal trouble as well over its tax-exempt status. Experts in tax law told NPR that the nonprofit group appears to be pushing the boundaries of charity law by closely entwining itself with explicitly Republican and pro-Trump political organizations.

At CPI's event in Pennsylvania, according to leaked audio obtained by the investigative watchdog organization Documented, two RNC "election integrity" officials told the audience about how to enlist in the party's poll watching efforts in the 2022 midterms. Those efforts, they said, could help with the Republicans' election-related legal challenges.

The account for CPI's Election Integrity Network has retweeted the campaign accounts of U.S. Rep. Lauren Boebert, R-Colo., as well as Kari Lake, the Republican candidate for Arizona governor.

Another official CPI Twitter account also promoted an op-ed from its chairman, former Republican Sen. Jim DeMint, about what congressional Republicans should do to win the 2020 election. (DeMint's advice: "be more like Trump.") After NPR contacted CPI for comment and asked about that post, every tweet from CPI from before March 2022 was deleted.

Love to see a member of the Trump Army explain how they think the IRS would be unfair to even review their status.

General Comments / Re: Guns
« on: September 26, 2022, 11:17:46 PM »
Are they well trained to keep their gun in the holster? As opposed to pointing it at anyone who argues their rights in a situation? Are they well trained to give someone the benefit of the doubt, that they might be dealing with someone who is deaf or has a learning disability? We can't even keep cops from gunning down harmless pets because they walk the earth terrified of getting hurt. Are they well trained to fire blindly into apartment buildings.

But I'll take an armed cop all day compared to the proud boys, oath keepers, and other self styled gun toting patriots.

General Comments / Re: So, how is Uncle Joe working for you?
« on: September 26, 2022, 11:09:43 PM »

“I suspect that distribution would have been slower and more uneven without Biden in charge of the WH.”

Setting aside the unprecedented speed with which the Trump administration developed two viral vaccines, you “suspect” that we needed Biden to act as the delivery boy? Can you bring yourself to give any credit to Trump? Just curious.

I give credit to trump for at least not inhibiting approval, he was largely neutral which I found baffling. He's never failed to take credit for anything in his life. If he promoted "his own" vaccine half as hard as his personal brand and trump steaks, a lot more of his followers would have taken advantage. Should I admire the server for bringing my food quickly and then not ask me why I haven't touched the meal? And not committing to whether he's ever tasted it?

General Comments / Re: So, how is Uncle Joe working for you?
« on: September 26, 2022, 08:06:32 PM »

Yes, “everyone knew in November that the vaccine existed”, but you must recall the derision directed at Trump for neglect prior to that revelation. I believe that you are giving tacit credit to the prior administration for the heavy lifting, correct? Biden could claim “expedite(d) delivery” because Trump gave him something to deliver, right?

You left the other points unaddressed. Was that an oversight?

Other than crippling the commercial supply chain through COVID restrictions, and hiring gun toting IRS agents to finance his green agenda, what do you believe Biden has accomplished?

I'm not really interested in responding to all the other points, as I don't have anything unique to say on those subjects. The Trump administration and Trump himself downplayed distribution, and their playbook showed that they preferred to leave most things up to the individual states (see ventilator debacle). I suspect that distribution would have been slower and more uneven without Biden in charge of the WH.

General Comments / Re: So, how is Uncle Joe working for you?
« on: September 26, 2022, 07:36:40 PM »
1 - Biden administration expedited all the mass innoculation, everyone knew in November that the vaccine existed, but there was no expedited deal in place for delivery.

Speaking February 11 at the National Institutes of Health, President Biden said the federal government has inked a final deal with Moderna and Pfizer for 200 million more doses of their vaccines including a faster delivery timeline than initially expected.

The companies will deliver a 100 million doses each of their vaccines by the end of July, Biden said. They also agreed to expedite delivery of another 100 million doses for delivery by the end of May, instead of June as originally planned.

General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: September 26, 2022, 02:49:38 PM »
And when the WHO says the pandemic is over, are you going to gainsay them as well? They are moving in that direction.

General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: September 26, 2022, 12:51:31 PM »
Pandemic over! Says Canada.

Canada has said it is dropping all remaining Covid border restrictions, including vaccine requirements for travellers.

As of 1 October, travellers will also no longer need to provide proof of Covid vaccination, to undergo any testing or to isolate and quarantine.

The mask mandate on planes and trains will also be lifted.

The ArriveCan app - used to upload health documents when entering Canada - will become optional.

General Comments / Re: Joke, not a joke
« on: September 26, 2022, 12:17:55 PM »
I belong to a facebook group called "That's it, I'm architecture shaming". The point is to post pictures of bizarre, unappealing examples of architecture. It nearly got shut down because people kept posting about "burning them to the ground" or "blowing them up". This causes the older and more conservative generation to become apoplectic with rants about thought police and stupidity and censorship and failure to understand a joke.

I confess, I started out thinking like that also. But the more I think about it, the more I realize that every joke, conjecture, and other expression of the idea that it is okay to burn a building down normalizes that idea. Now, the vast majority of people will be exposed to that idea and not feel any temptation toward arson. But there is also a certain limited group of people who were already contemplating burning a building to the ground. For them, might it be possible that hearing this over and over again actually does encourage them to act on that desire? And wouldn't it be better if we just always expressed disapproval when this is suggested?

Just to be very clear, I am talking about voluntary discretion and I am in no way suggesting that the government should be able to dictate this. But for facebook to be able to threaten my architecture group with a ban? I don't see why not.

Numerous videos have emerged of newly minted draftees staggering around drunk, throwing punches, shouting at military officers, cursing when told to form lines, and in Primorye territory in the Far East, swearing at the rusted-out Kalashnikovs they were handed

Looking real good there, Vlad.

General Comments / Re: Whose cell/womb is it anyways?
« on: September 23, 2022, 05:46:44 PM »
I think the important thing is to remember that good people believe the other side of it

I have a problem with that. There are some things that are just wrong, and people on the other side are not deserving of respect. Like the folks that thought slavery wasn't a crime against humanity. I'm not bringing that up by accident, it is in fact a similar question of personhood. If a slave is a person, then they would have all the rights and privileges of other persons. You can't say, "well, I don't agree with you that negros are sub-human, but to each their own."

I will continue to try to turn people who think that Plan B is killing a person, and I refuse to give them any respect. I just know its futile to throw tragic cases at them and say, what about this? At best you'd get them to admit that the law should be amended to clarify specific cases, all of which would only apply to 0% viability cases. At best.

General Comments / Re: Joke, not a joke
« on: September 23, 2022, 05:30:29 PM »
It seems to me there didn't have to be a binary here. What's to stop them from taking such a person in for questioning, verifying what the situation is, and if it was a stupid joke requiring the person to recant online, as well as maybe doing a little community service to make up for perhaps spooking some folks? Charging someone for a clear dumb joke doesn't teach terrorists that they have zero tolerance. But perhaps the student's problem was being too realistic. For instance if the message had been "If we don't win today, I'll have to go ahead and detonate the sun" would a person be arrested for that? How about "I'll change the gravitational constant of the universe?" How out there does a 'threat' have to be before we can say, ok, this is just silliness? Maybe "nuclear reactor" is a little too close to some TV shows to feel like goofy hyperbole.

If a threat is impossible, then I'm sure its going to be different. I don't see that the student has been charged with anything as of yet. Just arrested. I mean this is far out there as opposed to "I'm going to stab the quarterback."

"I'm going to blow up the cold fusion lab, I swear!"

General Comments / Re: Alex Jones, scumbag
« on: September 23, 2022, 02:50:59 PM »
Quite a meltdown.

"Just like all the Iraqis you liberals kill and love. You're unbelievable. You switch emotions on and off when you want."

two minute video, worth watching unless you are a Jones supporter

General Comments / Joke, not a joke
« on: September 23, 2022, 12:24:36 PM »
On Saturday, Sept. 17, the University of Utah Police Department was notified someone had posted a message on YikYak: “If we don’t win today, I’m detonating the nuclear reactor on campus.”

Police investigated and determined the statement was posted by Meredith Lile Uluave Miller, a 21-year-old engineering student. When the student was interviewed on Wednesday, Sept. 21, she acknowledged posting the statement and was arrested and taken to the Salt Lake County Jail and booked for making terroristic threats.

Although the student said her statement was meant as a joke, University Police Chief Jason Hinojosa notes that Utah law doesn’t distinguish between jokes or terroristic threats that are not attempted or not possible.

“Just don’t do it: Don’t post a threat on social media. We have a zero-tolerance policy for these kinds of threats,” said Chief Jason Hinojosa. “In the age that we’re living in, we have to take every threat seriously.”

So, I like this example because it isn't in any way politically charged. One could say that it is quite obvious that someone isn't going to detonate a nuclear reactor over a football game. It's just harmless hyperbole. Arresting someone over it demonstrates threats to our right of free speech.

Or, you could say, that's a pretty stupid thing to say and we've seen bizarre threats turn into action, even if it isn't the action that someone posts. Maybe she's not going to blow up the reactor, but maybe she's going to harm a coach. Maybe in this day and age, we should just all understand that joking about violence is just not funny and that threats have to be taken seriously.

press release

General Comments / Re: Whose cell/womb is it anyways?
« on: September 22, 2022, 10:51:32 PM »
As Fenring points out, all of this hinges on the intractable question of personhood. If the fetus has an equal right to life as the mother, then its difficult to allow any abortion except one where the viability of the pregnancy is 0%. You might just have to strap the Mom in restraints for the duration of her suicidal thoughts. She needs to be committed involuntarily to protect the child.

Now, I personally think it is absolute nonsense to consider an entity without brain and therefore without thought as a person, but if I can't convince people on that front, very few of these tragic cases hold up as morally wrong according to their deduction from that premise. Would we allow one conjoined twin to deliberately kill the other in order to be separated?

General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: September 22, 2022, 05:01:06 PM »
Thank you for providing a source. Did you read your own article?

So far nothing bad has happened. The advisory said, “While these vulnerabilities present risks that should be mitigated as soon as possible, CISA has no evidence that these vulnerabilities have been exploited in any elections.”

Indeed, CISA has called the 2020 election “the most secure in American history.”

The descriptions of the nine vulnerabilities are fairly technical and include recommendations for election officials to mitigate them.

No evidence that these have been exploited, and has mitigation advice.

“They are things that we should worry could be exploited by sophisticated attackers, such as hostile nation states, or by election insiders, and they would carry very serious consequences,” he told the AP.

In other words, it requires an insider as I said. At some point you have to trust someone, even with paper ballots which an election insider can exploit by simply destroying some of the ballots.

Did you read the CISA document? Nowhere do they assert that the machines should be taken out of service. Most of the mitigation advice involves making sure only authorized people have access to the machines. Which is why the machines that have been given to third parties trying to prove fraud will never be put back into service. The vast majority of these machines are air-gapped. A strong mitigation recommendation is, don't connect them to the internet. There are isolated incidents where a contractor working from home accessed some machines remotely. It didn't happen in hundreds of precincts, as would be necessary to flip the 2020 election for President.

Such vulnerabilities would be particularly valuable in smaller jurisdictions, where all the machines necessary would be in one place, not hundreds.

Then there's a gaping question here - Democrats have this awesome power to flip elections through these vulnerabilities. They have no scruples. Why do they only use it for the Presidency? Why didn't Soros and his pals hand-deliver all the Senate and Congressional results as well with a wave of the remote magic wand?

General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: September 22, 2022, 12:30:25 PM »
Most of the "machine changed my vote" accusations have to do with touchscreen calibration and in many cases simply voter error. This is one of the reasons why the narrative of suspicious machines is so dangerous.


Could this be done maliciously? At least on some machines. But to allege that enough people were doing this to flip multiple states without detection is ludicrous. Hordes of people would be describing getting checkmarks on the wrong candidates. Examination of the machines by election officials would expose the conspiracy.

can be, not has been

Is it right to be worried about these issues and trying to make the system foolproof? Of course there is. But let's get a grip. It reminds me of the non-political hand wringing over the exposure of memory cache to programs that should not have access on Intel platforms running windows. A researcher proved that it was possible for a hack to extract meaningful information, some of which could be very sensitive data. But nobody had ever actually done it, it would require a massive amount of effort and technical sophistication.

All electronic and physical security is about making intrusion difficult - not impossible. And once you start to have a wholesale distrust for all elections officials, I'm not sure what system will keep you from claiming unproven fraud. Even if people were marking ballots with sharpies, you could blame the calculation machines, the operators of scanning devices, or just the reported precinct totals themselves.

Flights out of Russia sold out fast after Vladimir Putin's announcement.

You don't say....

General Comments / Re: here comes the next ice age
« on: September 21, 2022, 02:21:48 PM »
Oh, great.  Just what we needed.  Something to add to the warming we're getting from the carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gasses. Like it wasn't bad enough beforehand. :(

95% of all "greenhouse" gas in the atmosphere is water vapor. It's been that way forever. By all means, be afraid, very afraid, as nothing can be done about that. But don't worry, the remaining 5% is going to make all the difference. Swearsie.

By all means, expose your ignorance.

Although water vapor probably accounts for about 60% of the Earth’s greenhouse warming effect, water vapor does not control the Earth’s temperature. Instead, the amount of water vapor is controlled by the temperature. This is because the temperature of the surrounding atmosphere limits the maximum amount of water vapor the atmosphere can contain. If a volume of air contains its maximum amount of water vapor and the temperature is decreased, some of the water vapor will condense to form liquid water. This is why clouds form as warm air containing water vapor rises and cools at higher altitudes where the water condenses to the tiny droplets that make up clouds.

So as CO2 increases (along with other non-condensibles), it allows for water vapor to also increase.

General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: September 21, 2022, 01:51:11 PM »
Are you paraphrasing again William? If I look up the court transcripts, will I find someone from any voting machine company or their representatives saying "It is impossible for our products to be hacked."? Or will they be talking about the safeguards employed to avoid hacking and why it wasn't likely? If you're so confident, why not help us out with a quote, or at least a link, to the thing you are claiming? Is it because you are also knowingly making false statements?

General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: September 21, 2022, 10:31:40 AM »
I think it is fair to say that worries about insecure voting machines have been around forever.  They've been insecure in the last election, the election before that and the election before that, but to suggest that the results of those elections hung on which side had the better hackers seems implausible to me. I would have been utterly astonished if a security audit hadn't found any holes. But so far there is no proof that they have been hacked by Republicans or anyone else.

To me the paper trail largely settles the issue. That was a glaring hole not only for malfeasance, but just plain software errors. It is possible that a hacked machine could flip the votes on both the screen and the paper, but the machines I've used print the paper, which I hand carry over to be recorded. If the recording machine got hacked, then you'd still have the paper for a hand recount or audit. And no amount of hacking can make the recording machine alter the paper. I've seen other systems where the paper trail is just visible to the voter, and some of the voters could overlook a discrepancy, but not all of them. It would be exposed, it seems.

General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: September 20, 2022, 09:50:43 PM »
Judge Wright also found sufficient evidence that Lindell knew or should have known his statements were false and acted with “actual malice” in promoting them, a key legal threshold in defamation cases.

That doesn't sound much like "the facts Mike had and presented as proved and accurate". It kind of sounds like the opposite.

General Comments / Re: The Trump Papers
« on: September 20, 2022, 03:07:40 PM »
Specifically, the legal team objected to what it said was Dearie’s request that it “disclose specific information regarding declassification to the Court and to the Government.”

How long before they call the special master that they named a biased never trumper?

General Comments / Re: Election Results
« on: September 19, 2022, 09:35:56 PM »
The flaws, many of which are highly technical and which mostly stem from machine design as opposed to coding errors, generally require an attacker to have physical access to the devices or other equipment used to manage the election, CISA said.

But you already know this. Almost any electronic system is vulnerable to hacking if someone gains access to the physical machines for a significant period of time. That's why there are safeguards to prevent people from messing with them. You'd only be worried about that if you already thought there was widespread interstate fraud being committed by elections officials. Which is nonsense on its face.

General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: September 19, 2022, 02:32:40 PM »
cherry, do you think there's any realistic way to lower the current transmission, hospitalization, and death rates in the US? I mean, you can look at the number of deaths, sure, and say "that's still a lot", but it doesn't really matter if there's no way to get it down. Otherwise the "war on covid" works out like the "war on drugs" and the "war on poverty" and the other endless fights against things that kill people that we never got rid of. We missed our chance at containment a long time ago, and that's not on Biden. I think we might have still had a chance to avoid the future we're in '21 if people had committed to vaccines before the mutations, kept their mask mandates, and tested and traced. That's no longer possible. I think the death rate we have now is likely to persist, at least until we develop better treatments.

If Biden hadn't suggested the pandemic was over, would any additional people be getting vaccinated, wearing masks, or isolating?

General Comments / Re: London Bridge is Falling?
« on: September 19, 2022, 12:41:39 PM »
I thought the pets of royalty got buried with them?

General Comments / Re: coronavirus
« on: September 19, 2022, 12:38:13 PM »
Because it transitioned to endemic. Over 60% of Americans have already had covid. From a policy perspective, it is really about funds. There are a lot of deaths annually from influenza, but it is not considered a pandemic partly because it is seasonal. Covid doesn't appear to be seasonal, but strains may be. They are anticipating the WHO, whom you cited, but they are not so far off from WHO assessment.

"Last week, the number of weekly reported deaths from COVID-19 was the lowest since March 2020," Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus of the World Health Organization said. "We have never been in a better position to end the pandemic. We're not there yet, but the end is in sight."

The WHO outlined six key actions for countries to take in order to reduce the threat of COVID. Their recommendations include continued testing, treatment and vaccinations, infection control in health care facilities, steps to combat misinformation and clear public communication.

Unclear how much more of that could get traction in the US. I think we know that most of our conservative pals are going to avoid getting tested for COVID until they have to get treated at a medical facility. They're not likely to quarantine, or wear a mask, and they'll continue to spread misinformation. So you might want to save your handwringing for them, and not Biden. You know, the people banning mask mandates.

Meanwhile, I just got my Omicron booster and bought a fresh pack of N95 masks for when I travel. I probably had a little extra urgency thanks to you, cherry, so thank you.

Meanwhile -

Overall, 1 in 13 adults in the U.S. (7.5%) have “long COVID” symptoms, defined as symptoms lasting three or more months after first contracting the virus, and that they didn’t have prior to their COVID-19 infection.

The infection dies but the health effects live on forever, but don't try convincing the crowd spreading memes about chicken soup and bed rest.

General Comments / Re: The Trump Papers
« on: September 19, 2022, 12:21:35 PM »
I mean, we're talking about defense lawyers here. Epstein found competent lawyers to represent him. So did R Kelly. Are you saying all the competent lawyers at all the competent firms, and the independent lawyers, all of them are part of the Qspiracy to discredit Trump? I have no doubt that some of the lawyers don't want to explain to their friends, families, and colleagues why they took Trump's losing case. Maybe they don't want to be associated with the likes of Guiliani and Powell. Maybe it isn't that they are secretly champing at the bit to Free Trump, but held in check by shadowy figures inside their law firms. Particularly that none of the Partners, who cannot be directly overruled in which cases they take. A partner can get voted out - but that would mean a full majority of the partners would have to be anti-Trump.

Plenty of evidence of Trump lawyer reluctance to claim fraud in court. One small example in PA:

In a recent Pennsylvania federal case, Giuliani alleged “widespread, nationwide voter fraud” in his opening remarks. But under questioning from the judge, he retreated. “This is not a fraud case,” Giuliani later admitted. In the same case, Trump lawyer Linda Kearns said explicitly that she is “not proceeding” on allegations of fraud.

In their own words, that was not a fraud case.

I can't find a comprehensive list but most of them only seem like they alleged fraud because that's what his lawyers talked about in public. Instead, they attacked the way elections were lawfully conducted, trying to exploit a technicality to toss votes because they deemed them "suspicious" - like all mail in ballots. Not fraudulent ones, all of them. They whined about the placement of their observers, also not fraud. Texas tried to claim that other states didn't have the right to change their election rules. Also not fraud. That was thrown out on standing, because of course Texas can't tell Georgia how to run their elections - any more than California can demand that Texas allow unlimited mail in votes. That case, also not about fraud, "Whether "voters committed fraud" was not the "constitutional issue" in this case, according to Texas. Therefore, Texas declared that it did not need to "prove" fraud."

General Comments / Re: London Bridge is Falling?
« on: September 18, 2022, 06:44:53 PM »
It's not like there are good American beers.

Oh stop. There are 2,538 breweries operating in the US. Well in 2013. Each of those have at least a half-dozen varieties.

Koenig is no better than Budweiser, if you want to focus on the largest garbage brands. Tsingtao is okay, but nothing special. Corona is *censored*tier than the vast majority of beer brewed in the US.

I think you might misunderstand me. It's not about only supporting countries in a naked self interest. And you acknowledge the realities. But there's a difference between liberating Kuwait and having a nuclear exchange with China or Russia. We have a stake in a stable world order, but we shouldn't trade it for the annihilation of the human race. If we were going to intervene on merit, we should have defended Tibet a long time ago. And the Palestinians for that matter. By expanding alliances in Estonia, we avoid the hard calculus by stating our intention up front. Which arguably we should have done with Ukraine, but Ukraine had a lot of problems - not as many as Turkey recently - but headaches that maybe we didn't need. We, as NATO by the way, not the US in isolation.

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