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General Comments / Re: Deplatforming
« on: January 16, 2019, 09:50:45 PM »
Free speech > Free Market? 
Just because you can say something doesn't mean people have to supply the soap box and megaphone for ya.  (or run their adds when you do)

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General Comments / Re: Why is May still around?
« on: January 16, 2019, 03:39:32 PM »
All indications are the minority party is such a minority that they can't get what they want.  The majority party can't agree on who would be better, not sure if it's a fractured party with multiple sides having different goals or what. 

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General Comments / Re: Misleading or false claims by the media
« on: January 14, 2019, 06:05:04 PM »
Depends also upon how exaggerated the whole narrative of "Trump is impossible to advise and won't listen to anyone".  If there's any truth to it, leaks seem more plausible; as does sabotage.  (Is it still sabotage when you are trying to stop a saboteur?)

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General Comments / Re: Misleading or false claims by the media
« on: January 14, 2019, 04:45:32 PM »
Or...  This leak was intentional to ratchet up the threat to Iran to negotiate from a position of weakness.  Or so a hawk would see it. 

A controlled and well timed leak (no clue if this qualifies) can be every bit as potent a tool as actual diplomatic outreach or overt threat. 

Sets you up for good cop bad cop, military overreach, anti-whistleblower measures and countless other things. 

OR... it's just more incompetence and backstabbing from a government in turmoil. 

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General Comments / Re: Speaking in Tongs
« on: January 14, 2019, 11:10:53 AM »
I think I need to find ways to work "goo-log" into regular usage.   ;D

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Reminds me of a comic I saw once where robots were imprisoning humans and forcing them to translate CAPTCHA strings...

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General Comments / Re: Fake News (the fight we needed to have?)
« on: January 14, 2019, 11:02:29 AM »
While that is interesting, and I'm all for highlighting news distortion for political ends, that's not the kinda thing I was talking about.

Unless I missed it and they turned the hosts of the station into digital sock puppets against their wishes and made them say exactly what they wanted, when the real reporting didn't line up with the political goal?

We're approaching, or already at a point that any scandalous accusation can be furnished with a believable fake video.  Selective reporting and biased propaganda will soon be "the good ol' days" of media manipulation.

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General Comments / Re: Law enforcement tweets
« on: January 10, 2019, 12:28:35 PM »
Hey, all, we've got a copter out, don't freak, the suspect isn't a threat to the public, but if you see someone comically falling over fences, tripping over bird baths or find a random shoe in the kiddy-pool, let us know.

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General Comments / Re: Fake News (the fight we needed to have?)
« on: January 07, 2019, 10:20:51 PM »
Took me awhile to find this original post. 
The AI generated fake puppet show video is back in the news.  Or at least the social media. 

This time it was Scarlet Johansson raising awareness of people pasting whoever they want onto porn star's bodies.  Maybe this will be the thing that gets attention to this threat? 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/business/technology/deepfakes-how-a-new-technology-is-being-used-to-put-womens-faces-on-porn-stars-bodies/2018/12/30/af0cff27-f7d1-4fcc-bb4f-011e6e086f30_video.html?utm_term=.231f04fc44f3

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General Comments / Re: Election Security
« on: January 03, 2019, 12:58:58 PM »
not bad points
but *censored* like "use the black felt tip pen only" being listed on the instructions, then being provided a pencil... makes people nervous some times.  :P

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General Comments / Re: Election Security
« on: January 03, 2019, 11:49:45 AM »
If you don't trust the machine, why would you trust the printout?

An output could only catch a bad scan, not fraud.
Bad scans is what I fear.  A distant second to that would be flawed programming / code that outputs incorrectly.  Then a WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY distant third, overt fraud / hacking.

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General Comments / Re: Election Security
« on: January 02, 2019, 12:40:09 PM »
Michigan does the scanned paper ballot.  It would be nice to get a print out though to confirm the machine read what you fed it... 

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General Comments / Re: Avoid Women at All Cost
« on: December 18, 2018, 04:50:21 PM »
I know I made the room uncomfortable at our last harassment training HR meeting. 

A friend who works in HR and her husband who work in security talk about this kinda stuff and break out the occasional horror stories.  Well in one case, someone got wind that a co worker was complaining about their behavior.  If I recall correctly it was crass humor type stuff.  Anyhow, they made it a point to get into HR and filed a false complaint about this person preemptively. 

Then when the "real" complaint came in, it was seen by HR as retaliatory.  Muddied the waters and the real perpetrator (regardless of how acceptable/unacceptable their behavior was) skated. 

ANYHOW...

Our training came up with, "Try and work it out with your coworker if you feel comfortable, if not, or if that doesn't work, then see HR."

So I asked, "Should you really give them a heads up that you may be filing a complaint?  What if they try and retaliate with a false claim?"

<dead silence>

Then I proceeded to dig the hole deeper for a bit explaining the above rambling story from my friends in HR/security... 

 :-[

Wonder how many people thought... "Note to self:  stay away from DW!"

FWIW the answer I got was, "That really doesn't happen..."

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General Comments / Re: Avoid Women at All Cost
« on: December 13, 2018, 01:52:34 PM »
I'd suggest offering your spare bedroom to a co-worker be put on the "don't do it" list.  ;)

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General Comments / Re: Misleading or False Claims by Trump
« on: December 10, 2018, 11:34:12 AM »
Sure you can bury the cost and hide it from the end consumer... but it's still going to cost.  It's still going to impact the way we live.  Most people want to feel like "WE" are "doing something", but don't want to pay for it out of their pocket or reduce their standard of living.  Heck, most want the standard of living for people to improve overall (including those who are already doing OK).

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General Comments / Re: Avoid Women at All Cost
« on: December 10, 2018, 11:26:47 AM »
thanks

That's a pretty insane read.  That anyone knowledgeable about her (even "secondary involvement") would give her a mic blows my mind...

Not every day you read something and thing, "It can't be THAT bad, there must be more to it..."  Only to learn, Yep!  It's that nuts.

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General Comments / Re: Misleading or False Claims by Trump
« on: December 10, 2018, 09:38:53 AM »
While all that is true DonaldD, it WAS kicked off by a tax hike on fuel.  Something that seems inevitable under policies combating climate change... 

The statement that they "want Trump" (or his policies) is a distortion to be sure, but the people certainly flinched when asked to walk the walk of the international goals and trend setting.

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General Comments / Re: Abuses of Power
« on: December 10, 2018, 09:32:41 AM »
The more terrifying prospect is not deciding whether or not she crossed a line and how if at all she should be rebuked; it's if this is going to be the new normal in politics. 

Has the standard of communication and politics been infected by social media quips and jabs?  Is this here to stay or is the current admin an aberration?  Is THIS all that We The People, respond to anymore?  Are they speaking our language?   :'(

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General Comments / Re: Avoid Women at All Cost
« on: December 10, 2018, 09:26:37 AM »
While TheDrake’s point about leaving families out of it is more condusive to good discussions, Crunch has either taken Wayward’s point in the worst possible (and IMO the most ridiculously wrong) way.  Wayward it seemed perfectly obvious to me what you were saying.  I hope rather that this is indeed Crunch Brand Distracti-O’s for our enjoyment…

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That's why the women's march on washington doesn't blink when a woman that raped and murdered a gay man was a keynote speaker.
Pete, who are you talking about?  I expect the reason “nobody blinked” is nobody knew about it.  It’s not often that an ex-con convicted of murder gets to be a keynote speaker at this type of event. 

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General Comments / Re: Avoid Women at All Cost
« on: December 07, 2018, 11:40:16 AM »
While I get the concern, it seems just a tad too convenient that we go from, "they can't do the job men can", to "they aren't as sound an investment as they may leave to raise children", to "we're afraid they may disrupt operations with false claims".

One can always come up with a justification.  Maybe this isn't a case of that... but it sure looks suspicious to me.

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General Comments / Re: Is Money Laundering a High Crime or Misdemeanor?
« on: December 07, 2018, 11:02:52 AM »
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You spent 8 years defending a guy that literally murdered American citizens, lied routinely, broke laws, and set race relations back decades.
Are you from the future?

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General Comments / Re: Deplatforming
« on: December 06, 2018, 09:19:33 AM »
Maybe it's all about framing the discussion in terms the audience can understand?   ;D

May the holy spirit and your spam filter protect you, lest you be lead into temptation and identity theft.

Granted that assumes he's "explaining" anything, and not fishing for pats on the head by those who already agree with him.

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General Comments / Re: Misleading or False Claims by Trump
« on: December 06, 2018, 09:16:52 AM »
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(any Republican was going to beat Clinton so there was a different choice being made in saying yes to Trump)
To be fair to the Trump supporters, I think he was, as crazy as it sounds, the only one on the field capable of beating her.  An amazing thing really as she was, IMO, the candidate the Democrats could select to be most likely to lose. 

When you believe deeply in smaller government, flipping the bird to the whole system and throwing a wrench in the gears sounds quite appealing.  Why wouldn't they support Trump?  It's not like they want someone who embodies what they claim to be their values.  They want someone who dislikes/hates what they hate.  Government interference in both business and culture. 

I would say they actually want preferential treatment for their religion/culture, but that's not accurate.  They have that now.  They want to stop it from changing. 

Trump makes sense if you felt that even moderate Republicans were not restraining the fearsome beast of progress.

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I think I speak for everyone on Ornery when I say that nobody speaks for everyone on Ornery.

  ;)
Easy to get mixed up and think you are on The Agreeable American website.

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General Comments / Re: A gun control law that I would support
« on: December 03, 2018, 09:44:15 AM »
A lot of time I'm willing to concede that lawmakers are ignorant computer illiterate grandparents and they just naively blunder into these laws that would upset "modern society", but on this count?  I think Crunch is right.  This is intended.  It's a scare tactic to defacto take away a right. 

"Sure you CAN have a weapon...  Whatcha wanna trade for it?  Privacy?  You don't need that.  YOU aren't a badguy... are you?

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General Comments / Re: Is Money Laundering a High Crime or Misdemeanor?
« on: December 03, 2018, 09:38:47 AM »
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They’re relevant because those are the standards the left set and the rules they created.
  I get not wanting to let Obama off the hook.  I'm cool with that.  But it seems absurd to insist you are following 'rules and standards' when the things you are citing have nothing to do with present criticism. 

The only way I can see to stretch this is if you are suggesting, "You on the left let Obama do whatever he wanted without criticism, why is it different now?"  (Thus ignoring the types of things one criticizes, or the motivations for those acts, or the criminality vs "things I don't like".)  Is that the point I was missing?  Is that the standard "the left" set? 

That you think we (the left) believe the president should be beyond suspicion and always to be granted the benefit of the doubt?

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General Comments / Re: Is Money Laundering a High Crime or Misdemeanor?
« on: December 01, 2018, 11:32:51 AM »
I'm not going to try and defend either of those policy actions but other than trying to shine a light on shady things Obama approved of and our government acted on, why are those even slightly relevant, let alone an apples to apples comparison in your mind to alleged illegal activity for personal gain by our current president?

How does that thought even pop into one's head?  Oh sure Trump MAY have done something wrong, but here's a government decision with Obama's signature on it!  It's "bad" too... right?   ::)

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General Comments / Re: A gun control law that I would support
« on: December 01, 2018, 11:27:47 AM »
I'd give up my pistol before I ever (willingly) gave someone full access to all my internet activity and passwords...

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General Comments / Re: What's the worst that could happen?
« on: November 30, 2018, 09:56:08 AM »
Won't be the first time I signed up for beta projects and bitched about them till the bugs were worked out.   ;)

I suppose the baseline is complaining as one gets older, so... why not? 

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General Comments / Re: What's the worst that could happen?
« on: November 29, 2018, 11:31:40 AM »
I'm not terribly keen on being a bleeding edge trail blazing guinea pig... 
But beyond that?  I'm all in.   8)

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General Comments / Re: What's the worst that could happen?
« on: November 28, 2018, 02:32:45 PM »
Time to get off this rock then.  ;)

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General Comments / Re: What's the worst that could happen?
« on: November 27, 2018, 11:55:58 AM »
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So yes 'GATTACA' is coming.
I'm just sitting here feeling like an idiot for not realizing the title was a play on the genetic code letters for the first time...

I'm all for the tinkering.  As for "hoping they'll be nice to us", I'm banking on live editing of adults being a future breakthrough in my lifetime.  I may be too old to be a millennial, but still looking forward to being a millenarian.  :D

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General Comments / Re: CNN needs a proof reader
« on: November 21, 2018, 11:35:49 AM »
In the rush to be first, quality must be sacrificed.

Also, you catch a lot more *censored* making edits on the fly to your online stories when you are a major outlet than I do when I sweep back and fix typo's or bad spelling.    ;D

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General Comments / Re: Corey Booker and Kavanaugh Hearing
« on: November 16, 2018, 11:08:09 AM »
That was terrible...
I laughed, but sometimes I'm a terrible person.   ;D

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General Comments / Re: Corey Booker and Kavanaugh Hearing
« on: November 15, 2018, 03:55:44 PM »
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I don't know what you mean,
You answered the question.  Wasn't any deeper than the text.  I'd heard nothing of the sort. 

I guess to be fair, it's a name I've heard of, and it doesn't end with Clinton...  :P

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General Comments / Re: Corey Booker and Kavanaugh Hearing
« on: November 15, 2018, 02:33:51 PM »
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In any event, the media made him into a candidate for President
Is this attempted humor or was this floated?    :o

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General Comments / Re: Where is the NRA on Jemel Roberson?
« on: November 13, 2018, 01:06:54 PM »
Not my point, but...
I think unjustified homicide towards an armed black individual does have a chilling effect on a black man's 2nd Amendment rights.  They may not have been actively trying to deprive him of that right, but the act will influence others to decline exercising that right due to the increased risk (from their own government).

Which sucks as by all indications that means less people like Jemel protecting us from harm.

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General Comments / Re: 2018 Midterm Elections
« on: November 13, 2018, 12:41:26 PM »
That is a curious question coming from you.  Thought you were kinda a rules guy, no matter what.

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General Comments / Re: 2018 Midterm Elections
« on: November 13, 2018, 12:09:46 PM »
How much of the vote went to someone other than these two?

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General Comments / Re: Where is the NRA on Jemel Roberson?
« on: November 13, 2018, 11:37:49 AM »
I guess because this fit their "good guy with a gun" narrative.  It was working.  Responded before police and contained the shooter.

Then the cops showed up...

Even if they dodged the police shooting, a nod to a man doing his job and probably/possibly saving lives would make sense from a platform position standpoint.

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General Comments / Re: The Invasion
« on: November 13, 2018, 10:21:18 AM »
Maybe they've sufficiently prepared now.  ;)

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General Comments / Re: Jeff Sessions Resigns
« on: November 13, 2018, 10:20:03 AM »
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That election was completely blown by the DNC insiders who literally believed they could nominate anyone they wanted and win.
I am wondering if they are going to repeat this mistake in 2020 by floating someone unimpressive.  Or worse, Hillary... again.

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General Comments / Re: Where is the NRA on Jemel Roberson?
« on: November 13, 2018, 09:40:12 AM »
Read about this one when it happens.  Suppose I shouldn't be shocked it's radio silence from NRA on it. 

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We have to be careful saying things like that are violence.  It can be far more serious than lawful/nonviolent/moral protest while still being short of actual violence.  There IS actual violence going on due to people's political beliefs.  We do ourselves a disservice blurring those lines.

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General Comments / Re: Misleading or False Claims by Trump
« on: November 08, 2018, 12:57:56 PM »
It was too subtle for me...  Even in its "doctored" form, it didn't look like a big deal either way.

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General Comments / Re: The Invasion
« on: November 08, 2018, 11:50:30 AM »
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Pistols typically have a lower muzzle velocity and smaller caliber bullets which leads to more victims surviving instead of dying from their wounds.
Some quibbling, and I'm far from an expert on the issue.  Lower muzzle velocity is generally true.  The rest is questionable to false*.  Caliber tends to be equal or larger on pistols.  Wounds vary but can in many cases be worse to the initial target than from an AR type rifle.  That said, the rifle has a much higher probability of penetrating and hitting more than one person with that round.

When selecting rounds for my pistol I went with a hollow point variant that does some pretty terrible things to the target compared to a FMJ round, but are designed to stop without penetrating.  They won't easily go through walls and so on.  One of the primary rules of gun training is always be aware of what is beyond your target.  This is because A you may miss, and B your shot may go through the target.  An AR-15 and its cousins are in part chosen because the rounds WILL travel through.

*The velocity difference can make for some serious internal damage as some of that force is delivered to the body before the round (in some cases) continues through.

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General Comments / Re: The Invasion
« on: November 08, 2018, 11:41:54 AM »
It's a complicated question for me. 
I don't think it's possible to meaningfully restrict the weapons a mass shooter would employ without depriving people of the ability to defend themselves or go hunting.

I think the psychological appeal of "military style" (looking) weapons is bad for our country, but legislating against "scary guns" strikes me as a fool's errand with bad consequences. 

My "breaking point" would be more in line with the demand to increase response time and making it easier for civilians to defend themselves (by being armed if they so desire). 

I would not weep over an "assault weapon ban" but I'd damn sure be reading the fine print.

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General Comments / Re: The Invasion
« on: November 08, 2018, 10:24:06 AM »
Then you need to settle on banning NEW sales, buy back programs, or the "nightmare scenario" of confiscation. 

The "mass shooter" or spree shooter would then walk in with 4+ pistols on their person instead of an AR + additional magazines as well.  A nut is going to find a way... 

And not that I think you were trying to make that point, but most of these high profile shooters are not using the black market.

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General Comments / Re: The Invasion
« on: November 08, 2018, 09:55:22 AM »
I'm just here to hit LIKE on a Crunch post where he didn't go on to say something I'm so diametrically opposed to that I couldn't possibly agree with the first half of his post...  :D

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General Comments / Re: The Invasion
« on: November 07, 2018, 02:17:48 PM »
2 reasons.

A:  They DO tend to require reloading less frequently.  Not a compelling enough reason to just strait up ban them IMO, but it IS an advantage when used offensively. (Or ridiculously unlikely, near fanciful, defensive applications.)

B:  It reinforces a "badass" fantasy persona as it just looks meaner/scarier/more military than grandpa's deer rifle.

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