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General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 11, 2016, 05:45:14 AM »
Sanders +100
Clinton -1
Cruz and Trump tie at -100 because I suspect that they would be equally bad, just in different ways.

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General Comments / Re: Why are we not hearing more?
« on: April 09, 2016, 05:32:40 PM »
For me, I just kind of go through life assuming this kind of thing is routine for big business.

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General Comments / Re: I may have to vote for Trump
« on: April 09, 2016, 05:26:50 PM »
It's pretty easy to say that we have to be careful of things getting worse when you're still in a place of relative or major financial stability, possibly with the worry of things like a high education, finding a decent career, and a mortgage safely behind you.

What the other side is trying to convey here is that, for them, things are already so bad, and the future looks so bleak, that they're perfectly willing to risk burning the whole house down on the off chance that the cart gets overturned and things change. It just can't get much worse.

The number of people who feel that way grows every year.

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General Comments / Re: I may have to vote for Trump
« on: April 09, 2016, 10:50:33 AM »
The difference between the two sides is this.

Clinton supporters may be more willing to vote for Sanders, but that's because his policies are like Clinton's, only better.

Sanders supporters may well not be willing to vote for Clinton, because to them her record and policies are demonstrably worse. And yes, we've all heard how it's necessary to vote the lesser of two evils, but at the end of the day it's people being willing to do that for generations  that has gotten the system into the obscene mess it is today.

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General Comments / Re: I may have to vote for Trump
« on: April 09, 2016, 10:45:43 AM »
You gain from dropping out  by letting those who have taken your vote for granted whilst being content to keep the status quo know that that is not going to continue.

Democrats take minority and millenial votes for granted, and yet the establishment is content with how things are because how things are keeps them in power.

Sanders is willing to take on the financial beast, and it's kind of silly to imply that the way wealth distribution  and the economy has gone the last few decades hasn't disproportionately affected minorities, the poor, and millenials. If he were to tear into that system, he would be helping those groups immensely without ever having to say the word black.

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General Comments / Re: I may have to vote for Trump
« on: April 09, 2016, 05:53:35 AM »
Quoted from above article for emphasis.

"If Clinton loses to Trump in November, just remember: It is not the fault of a marginalized person who refuses to vote for someone invested in their oppression. It is the fault of a two-party system that prevents real change. It is the fault of white moderates like Clinton who — in aiming to please "everyone" — continuously uphold the status quo. It is Trump's fault for being terrible. #BernieOrBust may be a sexist temper tantrum coming from some people, but for many marginalized folks, it's an understanding that the "lesser of two evils" argument is no longer a valid one, and that ultimately, we will have to work outside the system if we even hope to stay alive."

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General Comments / Re: I may have to vote for Trump
« on: April 08, 2016, 10:37:08 PM »
You can count me in on the Bernie or Bust train. She's just another slimy establishment politician, and her campaign against Sanders (not to mention her political record) has proven it.

She can't face off against him based upon the wisdom she's shown in the past, because compared to him she's shown very little.

A decent article in defense of Bernie or Bust.

http://www.bustle.com/articles/153151-bernie-or-bust-is-not-a-silly-argument-for-marginalized-individuals

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General Comments / Re: Over the Top
« on: April 08, 2016, 04:36:23 PM »
I kind of think Pyrtolin has the right of it.

I fell into my addiction because I felt isolated from friends and family, and alone. It was what made that situation okay for me. The habit itself contributed to unwise decisions, which caused more stress, which made me want the drug more.

If the goal is to make the person a productive citizen again, all I can say is that Pyr's approach would have been far more likely to snap me out of it.

That's not to say there aren't people who take advantage. I'm working in the social field in the UK at the moment, and I see it daily. But if you want to help people and communities, you just have to hold your nose and accept them.

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General Comments / Re: Over the Top
« on: April 08, 2016, 02:11:58 PM »
I grew up around addicts, and have even been one myself, in the past.

Seriati is correct in that no amount of help or treatment is going to cure an addict unless the person in question is fully committed to helping themselves.

There will always be people who just can't or won't be helped. That being said, I still think that the benefits of having easily accessible and well funded treatment and counseling are a net boon to society, regardless of cost.

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General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 07, 2016, 04:17:13 PM »
I take your point on Clinton and Cruz not being willing to dig too deep into past transgressions, but there is absolutely nothing about Sanders to suggest that he would cover up for the benefit of the system.

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General Comments / Re: Living in the future
« on: April 07, 2016, 03:47:28 PM »
Cherry, how much did that DNA analysis set you back? I'd be very interested to have that done.

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General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 07, 2016, 01:05:03 PM »

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General Comments / Re: My AIPAC experience
« on: April 07, 2016, 01:02:12 PM »
Thanks Greg, that was very informative.

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General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 07, 2016, 12:52:43 PM »
Just realized that there is some context missing,  the first thing Dogbreath is talking about Sanders being right is him saying years ago that Panama was a tax haven that encouraged bad financial practices.

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General Comments / Re: Over the Top
« on: April 07, 2016, 12:48:53 PM »
You would think that, but you have to remember that the vast majority (all?) of prisons are for profit outfits owned by private interests, and that the vast majority of politicians are paid off by private interests.

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General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 07, 2016, 12:25:58 PM »
I agree with this exchange over at Sake River between Dogbreath and Samprimary.

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I mean, Sanders pretty accurately assessed the situation and warned that this would happen. But then again, he also voted against the war in Iraq. And supported gay rights well before 2013. (which is when Hilary Clinton finally changed her mind about opposing SSM) It's easy, after a scandal like this breaks, to go back and say what the right decision should have been. Sanders is one of the few people (and only presidential candidate) who has had the integrity and conviction to consistently make the right and moral decisions, even though those decisions have often been deeply unpopular at the time.
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All throughout contemporary US politics, even going back before I was even born, you can go through the entire laundry list of the most notably stupid bad crap the US has done — and especially the stuff that has come back around to bite us in the ass — and bernie sanders is on video essentially saying 'this is stupid bad crap that will bite us in the ass, believe you me'

it's eerily consistent

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General Comments / Re: Over the Top
« on: April 07, 2016, 12:24:26 PM »
While BLM talks about other things as well, the difference in how minorities are treated in the criminal justice system is definitely one of their talking points.

I agree with you that changing theses laws should be one of their top priorities.

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General Comments / Re: Hillary: Too risky a candidate (cont'd)
« on: April 01, 2016, 10:55:31 PM »
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/its-time-for-hillary-clin_b_9555422.html

Article arguing that Sanders is a stronger candidate in every possible way.

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General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: March 28, 2016, 04:26:59 PM »
So Clinton's spokesperson has said that she is refusing to do anymore debates with Sanders because he has been too "negative."

I'm not surprised she's scared. Sanders would run rings around her.

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General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: March 18, 2016, 12:30:23 PM »
Because he's been very vocal about his stances and beliefs, and they haven't changed even whilst he's been compromising. He's very capable of compromising, while also using the soapbox of the presidency to call his opponents out and advance his ideas to the public.

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Civilian oversight of camera footage is critical. I don't trust cops to oversee cops.

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General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: March 18, 2016, 11:21:20 AM »
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with a clear and strong voice that is influencing Clinton's policy statements to reflect his

https://youtu.be/O3iBb1gvehI

SFW

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General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: March 18, 2016, 09:45:32 AM »
I wouldn't say Bush the 2nd was ineffective at getting his agenda accomplished. Didn't he largely get what he wanted in the first six years? The only major defeat I remember was over social security privitization.

And I still think you're overstating the difference in their abilities to work with Congress.

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General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: March 18, 2016, 06:18:52 AM »
This is an interesting piece on how the NYT being pretty obvious in their Clinton bias. It also puts lie to the narrative that Sanders is too extreme to get anything done with the opposition.

He's principled, honorable, and hasn't been paid off. He is by far the best candidate, and it says a lot about the political climate when Hillary Clinton is the second best option available.

ETA - Forgot the link. 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-the-new-york-times-sandbagged-bernie-sanders-20160315?page=2

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Pete, I'm going to echo what others have said here.  You're getting really negative and crude in what you've been posting lately. I can appreciate a clever comeback or riposte, but crude is crude.

You might want to take a step back from this topic in general and Pyrtolin in general, for your own good.  You're getting angrily and a bit weirdly obsessive about both.

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Video from inside the vehicle.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/go-ahead-put-a-bullet-in-me-video-shows-final-moments-of-oregon-militia-member/

Wonder why the police kept shooting after Finicum went down?


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General Comments / Re: Hillary: Too risky a candidate (cont'd)
« on: March 10, 2016, 08:28:45 AM »
If anyone forged  a fourth email, I'd put money on it being RT. People forget sometimes that that organisation is 100 percent a propaganda outlet for Putin.

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General Comments / Re: Apple's odd stand on privacy
« on: March 02, 2016, 03:39:33 PM »

What in the world makes you think that the government wouldn't want to have full access to any phone, and wouldn't scheme to get it?

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Aww, Pete, you fell right into that one. He even TOLD you it was a trick question.

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General Comments / Re: Dem filibuster for Audit the Fed
« on: January 27, 2016, 12:44:37 AM »
I have little doubt that those at the top in the Fed have made a crap load of money off of their policy decisions.

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Huh.  I'll admit that it hadn't really clicked for me that this is like if they pretended to be medical professionals in order to score opiates.

Yeah. I see the seriousness of it now.

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General Comments / Re: Dem filibuster for Audit the Fed
« on: January 26, 2016, 01:42:04 PM »
Welcome back, Pyrtolin. I don't always agree with you, but I usually enjoy reading your arguments, especially the economic ones.

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If you had yourself on tape buying illegal drugs, then you really have broken the law, and the only thing that would save you would be cops who refused to press charges or a sympathetic jury. This being Texas, there'll probably be  juror or two who would have excused them for blowing the clinic up, so I doubt there is a conviction.

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What I don't understand is where the charge of tampering with a government record came from. These two are a couple of douchebags, but I don't think they deserve 20 years in the can.

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Pretty much everything that has been uncovered and evertone who has been talked to have agreed on one thing - Ted Cruz is an *censored*, and not just in your normal politician way.

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General Comments / Re: Hillary: Too risky a candidate (cont'd)
« on: January 25, 2016, 11:41:04 AM »
"At any rate Hillary offers the standard political-person package, and Bernie is more of a regular guy who fights for what he believes in."

This is pretty much why I'm a Sanders guy, and also the reason that I supported Obama in 08 even when he was still in the "This is a cute campaign and all, but it's just damaging Clinton's chances in the general," stages.

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General Comments / Re: Hillary: Too
« on: January 25, 2016, 11:37:02 AM »

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I agree with pretty much all of this.  I grew up in Arizona, and now live in Europe, so I've seen immigration issues from different angles.

The one thing I would add is that it is essential to assimilate immigrants into the culture. When you have second and third generation descendents of Islamic immigrants who still believe things like democracy is evil, and women should wear burkas, then that becomes a very real problem. Europe still hasn't experienced the full consequences of that,  and it's going to get a lot uglier before it gets better.

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General Comments / Re: Hillary: Too risky a candidate (cont'd)
« on: January 23, 2016, 10:51:44 AM »
Because I don't support the policies of Nader and Buchanon. I support the policies of Sanders, and want him to be President.

I don't really care if he could convince the legislature to pass his reforms or not. A European style socialist sitting on the Presidential soapbox for four years, getting a chance to sell his ideas to the public, would make it entirely worthwhile to me. Because Sanders, unlike the other candidates, has always been straightforward and open about his policy positions, and he wouldn't spend his first four years in power worrying about how his actions would affect the next election.

I'll say this, as well. I've never really liked H Clinton, but I was willing to hold my nose and vote for her over most Republicans. Her hypocrisy, attitude, and the way her supporters have been acting have just about convinced me to not vote at all if she wins the Democratic nomination.

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General Comments / Re: The Jihadist Next Door
« on: January 22, 2016, 12:16:57 PM »
It's definitely blocked in the UK, because it was on broadcast television here. From all of the Redditors who were able to watch it on YouTube,  I'm guessing that it's not blocked in the US.

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General Comments / The Jihadist Next Door
« on: January 21, 2016, 05:24:53 PM »
For those of you who are interested in what happens when you allow savages to import their customs and beliefs with them, and allow them to keep said customs in the name of diversity and tolerance.

https://m.reddit.com/r/Documentaries/comments/41vwr6/the_jihadist_next_door_2016/

The YouTube link from there should be unblocked in the US. Channel 4 recently spent two years interviewing extremists living in the UK, one of which is suspected of being the new Jihadi John.

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General Comments / Re: So about this moon shot...
« on: January 14, 2016, 11:29:05 PM »
It was just a bit of political happy talk.

There is no cure for cancer, because cancer is not one disease. For example, lung cancer will be different from liver cancer, but there is also the fact that each different type of lung cancer is going to need a different treatment or "cure."

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General Comments / Re: Terrorized Americans
« on: January 09, 2016, 04:39:53 PM »
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/u.s.-street-preacher-arrested-in-london-for-using-homophobic-language

This is where hate speech laws lead.

Thankfully, Parliament amended the law after a few dozen incidents l ike this one.

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General Comments / Re: Fear trumps facts
« on: January 09, 2016, 02:26:07 PM »
How many refugees and asylum seekers do you all think the US is going to have to allow in before they can start having parties like they had in Cologne on New Years Eve?

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General Comments / Re: Terrorized Americans
« on: January 05, 2016, 02:02:00 AM »
The Amendment doesn't mention no unreasonable searches and seizures unless planes are about to hit the Twin Towers.

Like Franklin said, give up liberty for safety, and you deserve to lose both.

If there is no warrant then there can be no legal search and seizure of citizen phone records.  The Fourth Amendment is pretty explicit.

Yes. Even if I knew this program would save lives tomorrow, even they included mine or loves, I'd end the NSA wiretapping tonight. And frankly, anyone who goes along with it because it makes them feel safer or because "I haven't done anything wrong," is pretty damned cowardly.

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General Comments / Re: Terrorized Americans
« on: January 05, 2016, 01:52:20 AM »
I haven't yet found a definition online for hate speech that doesn't include merely expressing hatred or dislike for a certain group.

I'm in complete agreement with Seriati. When it comes to the actual crimes,  and not just hurt feelings,  the laws are already in place to punish wrongdoers without hate speech legislation.

So, funny story from over here in England. The UK has some really disgusting hate speech laws. You really can be imprisoned just for offending someone.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_the_United_Kingdom

So, a few months back there is this Arab woman working at a university in London. Said woman is an SJW extraordinare,  and before long she's started a club that expressly forbids white males from attending. She got some unwanted attention for this, and in response she took to Twitter, posting tweets that included the opinion that all white people just needed to die.

In a shocking twist, someone actually reported her to the police, and she was arrested on hate speech charges. Naturally, the left only meant for this law to be used against whites, and were very upset that poor Bahar Mustafa was charged. A few days ago, the charges were quietly dropped.

Is anyone really surprised by this? For extra credit, can anyone guess in which manner Pyrtolin is going to argue that this no whites club and call for genocide isn't hate speech and racism?

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General Comments / Re: Hell bent on the Caliphate
« on: December 24, 2015, 05:09:06 PM »
Pete, here's a much better example.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/dem-rep-on-campus-rape-better-to-expel-more-students-even-if-80-are-innocent/

An SJW would accuse someone who disagreed with the Congressman of needing to check their privilege or similar nonsense. The especially cute ones who say that you're okay with or don't care about rape.

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