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General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: May 09, 2016, 03:50:59 PM »
If you want to make the case that Trump exaggerated then I'll certainly agree to that. He does that all the time and he did it again here.

But there are plenty of reports that say those celebrations didn't happen at all and that's an exaggeration going the other way, if I'm not butchering the word there.

... “That is totally false. That is patently false,” Speziale said. “That never happened. There were no flags burning, no one was dancing. That is [barnyard epithet].” He said the main concern after the attacks was that the U.S. Muslim population would face retaliation, and so law enforcement officials worked with the community to ensure that did not happen. “They’ve been very helpful and law-abiding.”

... As the Newark Star-Ledger put it in an article on Sept. 18, 2001, “rumors of rooftop celebrations of the attack by Muslims here proved unfounded.”

Well obviously if they are on a rooftop it's going to be tough to fit thousands of people there.

And there were plenty of Muslims caught dancing and celebrating abroad. I think it's obvious there were a few who were caught celebrating in America and thousands dancing and cheering overseas and Trump conflated them together in his mind.

Both he and the ones who deny anything happened as far as American Muslims celebrating are incorrect. Even if it was just a handful that is still a story that shouldn't be covered up the way it was.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: May 08, 2016, 01:53:37 PM »
Just because the American media doesn't report it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Obama killed the credibility of the American mainstream media which had already decided to poison themselves anyway with their own bias. But it was a slow acting poison so the media basically begged Obama to go ahead and get it over with and just shoot them to put them out their misery. Obama happily obliged. The recent public confession of Obama aid Mr. Rhodes is just one example of many with Obamacare's Gruber being another.  You have to go to Britain and sometimes even Russia to get an idea of what's really going on.

"'The women were shouting in Arabic and keening in the high-pitched wail of Arabic fashion,' Gallagher continued. 'They were told to go back to their apartments since a crowd of non-Muslims was gathering on the sidewalk below and we feared for their safety.'

That apartment building, located in Jersey City, New Jersey, was visited by FBI agents several days later and some residents were taken into custody, the Star-Ledger reported.

Another celebration occurred on Jersey City's John F. Kennedy Boulevard, according to eyewitnesses, which is near the mosque where Omar Abdel-Rahman, known as 'the blind sheikh,' had preached before his terrorist ties were uncovered during the investigation into the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

'When I saw they were happy, I was pissed,' said 56-year-old Ron Knight, who said he heard cries of 'Allahu Akbar' while making his way through a crowd of 15 to 20 people on the street.

60-year-old Carlos Ferran, who lives in the same apartment building of Knight, also remembered coming across the gathering while he was walking to a liquor store to buy beer.

'Some of them had their hands in the air,' Ferran told 'They were happy.'

A crowd was reportedly gathered on a rooftop from an address on the same street, 2801 John F. Kennedy Blvd., but officers dispatched were unable to enter the building because the front door was locked.

'By the time I got to the roof, no one was there,' said retired officer Bruce Dzamba.

This was the building mentioned in a local news report by journalist Pablo Guzman, which Trump had pointed to as proof.

On the air, Guzman, citing unnamed sources, said federal officials had detained eight men at this scene who were cheering.

Retired officer Arthur Teeter, who worked in the radio room on 9/11, told that this was one of several addresses where cheering was witnessed and that bystanders called in to report.

'They said they were witnessing this,' Teeter said. 'We don't send out cars based on someone saying somebody else saw it.'

NJ Advance Media journalists found a handful of other officers who shared similar recollections but would not go on the record, in part, because they feared repercussions from Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop, who has repeatedly said that the celebrations did not happen.

'There are no records of this, and over time, what has happened is that it has become urban legend in many cities where people say they heard or saw something,' Fulop said. 'At the end of the day, the only thing we can go on are facts. There is no media record. There is no police record. There is nothing.'

Fulop questioned why Gallagher didn't file a report at the time.

Gallagher responded saying that 'if no violence is involved it is, and was, a minor assignment.'

'The people on the roof were cooperative as were the people on the sidewalk,' he continued. 'No report was necessary.'

Other officers who served alongside Gallagher said he wouldn't make something like this up.

'I would have no reason to doubt Pete,' said Tom Comey, a former New Jersey police chief. 'He's a man of high integrity.'

Gallagher told that he didn't come forward to make a political statement, just to set the record straight.

'The celebrations happened,' he said. 'All or most on rooftops. The [Jersey City Police Department] leadership put on an order to seek the cooperation of the Muslim celebrants for their own safety. By 2 p.m. there were no more celebrations and my squad was designated a roving patrol to guard about six mosques.'

Trump again made a claim about Muslims celebrating on 9/11 when he appeared on This Week with George Stephanopoulos yesterday.

'Oh there were plenty of people cheering, believe me,' Trump said. 'And I've come up with plenty [of evidence],' he told the host, a day before the story came out.

'And a lot of people - thousands of people - have been calling and writing and emailing, many people saw it. And it was in New Jersey and it was all over the world, George,' Trump said.

Trump said, however, that there were 'articles written about it,' articles that, to this day, have never been found.

'There were people celebrating,' he said again."


If Bush was willing to get the Saudi government agents who helped pull off 9-11 out of the country so they could avoid the prosecutions and interrogations they deserved then it's not difficult to imagine our government would also act to downplay Muslim celebrations to help protect Muslims from hate crimes.

Like I said before, stuff like this is one more good reason why Trump needs to be the President. Otherwise we will never find out about the many lies our government in collusion with the media have been feeding us.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: May 07, 2016, 05:39:09 PM »
What are some examples of these racist beliefs?

And obviously I hope you can come up with something other than the border needs to be secured, the immigration laws enforced, we need to know that the people who are voting are who they say they are, and race shouldn't be used as the determining factor in college admissions or employment because if not I am going to be disappointed since none of that is racist in the least. Except perhaps to liberals with an agenda which declares that any position they disagree with must be because the other person is a racist.


"The deficit is about 1/3 of what it was when Obama took office.  You can say that is a failure but failed miserably seems like a stretch."

Maybe I shouldn't have brought up the deficit so much but just stuck with the national debt although the two obviously go hand in hand. Obama doubled the national debt. Even Obama admits it's a terrible idea to ... well let me just quote Obama himself when he talked about Bush adding four trillion dollars to the national debt:

“The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents -- number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back -- $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That's irresponsible. It's unpatriotic,” said Obama on July 3, 2008, at a campaign event North Dakota.

So is the national debt suddenly not a big deal anymore? I don't really hear anyone but Trump talking about it. Certainly not Hillary. Did Obama double down and win? Like in blackjack? This is something I just don't get, honestly. Why doesn't the media ever bring this up with Obama right now and ask him to explain himself? What could his explanation possibly be? He still says we need to do all that infrastructure work that he said a long time ago was already shovel ready. Something was shovel ready alright, but it wasn't jobs.

How is it that if Hillary is elected we should expect her to reduce the national debt? By every indication it looks like she might pull another Obama and add another ten trillion dollars to it or maybe even more. I guess I'm just not understanding why this issue no longer seems important. It's almost like we've given up, like Puerto Rico or Argentina. Or someone in so deep on their credit cards that they know they'll never pay it back so they don't even try or pretend to care anymore.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: May 04, 2016, 10:44:42 PM »
Has Hillary mentioned anything about cutting the national debt and deficit and how she plans to do it?

Even if she did why should we believe she can when Obama failed so miserably?

At least Trump is talking about it.  He says he will negotiate better and harder to get fair trade instead of free trade and he will make our allies pay more for their military security. He will keep more jobs in America by punishing companies that move abroad and he will go after illegals to free up the jobs they are doing for American citizens.

Again, what is Hillary's plan? And why will it succeed where Obama failed?

It seems like the Democrats have decided in true Meatballs fashion that it just doesn't matter.

Why don't the terrorists ever seem to worry about that, about causing the people they terrorize to turn around and resort to terrorism against groups like ISIS, the Taliban, Boko Haram, and the rest of them?

If terrorism inspired so much terrorism against the the terrorists then wouldn't the terrorists have already been wiped out by the other terrorists they inspired against them?

Or is it just when the U.S. does it then it becomes counterproductive but when ISIS does it, and in fact Muslims throughout history, they manage to take and hold vast swaths of territory? Perhaps (but not likely I suppose) that's the origin of the "terr" in territory.

For some reason when ISIS and other Muslim groups engage in successful acts of terrorism it actually inspires more Muslims to join them, Muslims who otherwise might have remained peaceful. So sitting back and not doing enough to stop terrorism may be what's really the more dangerous inspiration to encourage more of it.

General Comments / Re: Terror - maybe we do nothing, and that's okay
« on: April 30, 2016, 02:53:00 PM »
Europe is another good example of the do nothing approach to terrorism.

Mathematically I can see how the approach has merit.

If European countries combined their armies and sent them into ISIS territory to wipe ISIS out more Europeans (the soldiers primarily but also possibly more civilians in future successful ISIS attacks) would be killed than may be killed by the do nothing approach which I'll restate as letting law enforcement and intelligence agencies handle it instead of letting the military handle it with invasion and war.

Of course that depends on how many more successful attacks ISIS, al-Qaeda, and others are able to pull off if they are left relatively undisturbed in their home countries. When the casualties in Europe start to number in the thousands then will the effectiveness of the do nothing approach be reconsidered? Or will it take casualties in the tens to hundreds of thousands such as with a dirty bomb or a compromised nuclear reactor releasing a Chernobyl's worth of radiation across Europe to make the case? Or maybe not even then?

General Comments / Re: Terror - maybe we do nothing, and that's okay
« on: April 23, 2016, 02:38:38 PM »
So should we have sat out WWII as well?

And the Korean War?

We lost fewer people in the attack on Pearl Harbor than we did on 9-11 and the communist Koreans never attacked us at all.

General Comments / Re: Terror - maybe we do nothing, and that's okay
« on: April 21, 2016, 06:39:35 PM »
How much nothing are we talking about here?

Pull out of Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan completely?

General Comments / Re: Living in the future
« on: April 19, 2016, 11:17:35 AM »
I'm much more optimistic about the ability of our resources to support a much higher population especially if we are experiencing it because of a longer life expectancy. When you really boil it down people don't require all that much in the way of resources to survive but we just won't be able to enjoy the wastefulness we do now. I'm also making an assumption about the longer life expectancies translating into great advances in technology which will allow us to live on less in the way of resources while still enjoying a great standard of living. For instance, I'm picturing building-cities that have just about everything you need all in one great skyscraper including your job, much of your food grown on the building itself, solar, wind, and water generated electricity built into the building, and so on. And as I mentioned before, colonization of the oceans and mining of the ocean floors for resources while cultivating the oceans sustainably for food will easily allow us to double our population. It's difficult to even imagine the contributions people of genius level intelligence will be able to make when they are living for one hundred and fifty or more years. Also, I'm all for cloning and manipulating humanity to produce smarter and "better" people. Evolution might do it eventually, but then again it might not if we keep seeing the smartest among us choosing to not have children because the world is already so overpopulated. Yes, it gets into dangerous territory and raises all kinds of ethical concerns but no more so than population controls.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 17, 2016, 04:02:18 PM »
I suppose my character would be Watchmen's Rorschach who demands that people know the truth instead of living under the protection of a lie whereas others agree more with Colonel Jessep in A Few Good Men: "You can't handle the truth!"

This is just the tip of the iceberg concerning all the lies we have been told and the vast of majority of the lies Trump will expose don't have this moral dilemma associated with them but are serving only to mask simple incompetence and outright corruption in our government. 

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 17, 2016, 02:49:37 PM »
I wouldn't worry about disruption to our economy from the Saudis selling off their assets. That's the same type of thing we hear all the time about the threat of the Chinese selling off our bonds. So what? They have to sell them to someone. Just like if you are fed up with paying your property taxes so you threaten to sell your house and move away does the tax authority care at all? Nope. Someone has to buy it for you to sell it and then they will pay the taxes. If a lot of people sell off then they someone still has to buy the property for them to sell, unless we are talking about mass bankruptcies and defaults which would be a different story.

Besides which, the problem of the Saudis selling may not be a problem at all if the law passes. They should of course be prevented from selling anything and their assets in America will be frozen until after their trial. If they lose, which this new evidence is suggesting they will, then those assets will be confiscated and we will sell them off to the highest bidders to pay the families of the victims of 9-11 among others including the expenses of our own government and taxpayers. Once you tack on punitive damages and damages for pain and suffering the Saudis won't have to worry about selling anything.

In any case, put me on record as having the position that our government was and is wrong regarding this massive 9-11 cover-up. All this time I honestly thought Bush helped the Saudis escape because they were innocent. If he did it because he knew they were guilty that is aiding and abetting an enemy in time of war. That is treason. Maybe the liberals will have their dream of seeing Bush in prison come true after all. And for his role in the ongoing coverup Obama can share his cell.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 17, 2016, 01:01:56 PM »
Well I like Sanders. I don't think his proposals will work but it probably won't hurt too much to give them a shot and find out one way or another. Of course I had the same type of thinking with Obama except I trusted Obama a lot less. But when you think about all the money Obama just completely wasted many of the proposals of Sanders make a lot more sense. At least paying for college tuition gets you something for the money instead of throwing away the trillions of dollars like Obama did and having nothing at all to show for it. Did I make the joke about Imelda Marcos saying that even though she wasted loads of taxpayer money at least she had more to show for it than Obama with her room full of shoes? And some of what Sanders wants to do like taxpayer funded college only costs a drop in the bucket compared to the ten trillion dollars Obama flushed down the toilet. I think we were debating whether or not Obama doubled the national debt and before he technically hadn't but I'm pretty sure now he and his supporters can be very proud of themselves for achieving that goal. I feel confident predicting that even if Sanders could do everything he dreams about and even if it didn't work out nearly as well as he hopes it will still be a vast improvement over the last eight years. The reduction in corruption alone, if it happens like we all hope it will under a President who wasn't spawned from the Chicago machine, will be a huge improvement.

And if Trump can't beat Sanders, then I highly doubt Cruz would have beat him either.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 17, 2016, 12:50:45 PM »
Are you suggesting that if the Saudi government was involved in planning and executing the attack against America on 9-11 that this should, if it were possible, continue to be covered up for our own good? And Americans don't have the right to know other such dangerous information?

Now I don't think we have the right to know everything especially operational secrets that would put intelligence assets at risk, but I do think we have the right to know who exactly was responsible for the deaths of over 3000 Americans on 9-11. Covering that up would be like FDR trying to hide the fact that Japan was behind the attack on Pearl Harbor, if he could have gotten away with it. After all, didn't that knowledge end up leading us into a war that cost over four hundred thousand American lives?

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 17, 2016, 12:10:08 PM »
Al, we seem to be talking about different types of ignorance. There is the type you are talking about with being Islamophobic and racist and not knowing how to play the primary system with the delegates.

And then there is the ignorance graciously bestowed upon a populace by a magnanimous Orwellian government for our own protection and blissful happiness.

By voting against the former Trumpian type of ignorance that will be casting a vote for the latter type of ignorance. We will never know what we do not know and that is the worst type of ignorance there is.


Obviously I don't know for sure if Trump will win or not in a general election. I don't even know if he will win the primary. I could say "if" Trump wins the Presidency instead of "when" by I choose to be optimistic. I think he has a much better chance against Bernie or Hillary than Cruz does no matter what the polls say. I'm confident Cruz supporters will be more likely to vote for Trump than the other way around particularly if Cruz steals the primary the way he is doing now. Technically Cruz didn't cheat Trump, of course. That's just the rules. But he sure as hell lawyered him. And Trump supporters don't like that any better. Plus Cruz has absolutely no crossover appeal. And Trump will go after his Democrat opponent in ways that will make them squeal in pain unlike other Republicans who play only with kid gloves. For instance, Trump wouldn't hesitate to use this new Saudi 9-11 connection against Hillary. What did she know and when did she know it? He will hammer all of her scandals mercilessly. It's going to be HUGE. You're going to love it.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 17, 2016, 10:18:51 AM »
Another expectation I have of Trump, and why the establishment of both parties may be so afraid of him, is that he will make public embarrassing things like this:

Bush obviously instigated this coverup but Obama's hands are not clean either because after promising transparency he has had years to actually deliver but has instead only continued the coverup.

Nobody else will go after this kind of stuff the way I hope and expect Trump will. It validates everything he is saying and will prove to Americans that they were right to elect him when he shows us the lies our government has been telling us for years and across administrations in both parties.

A vote against Trump is a vote against the truth and a vote for perpetual ignorance of what the hell is really going on.

General Comments / Re: Terror - maybe we do nothing, and that's okay
« on: April 16, 2016, 02:25:26 PM »
The same thing could have been said about the attack on Pearl Harbor. In fact, the Japanese counted on it which is in large part why they attacked in the first place.

One flaw in this logic is that bathtubs and cows and snakes aren't likely to escalate their murderous killing streak if we don't do something but terrorists are if we let them alone to continue to expand their power and influence.

We saw that with the '93 WTC bombing when we didn't take the threat seriously enough and so had our eyes opened when the WTC was attacked again, this time spectacularly successfully, on 9-11.

We can always come back and look at how much it cost us to tackle terrorism but of course we'll never know how much it saved us. Obama talked a good game about how we didn't need to change our way of living and give up all of our privacy to combat terrorism while he was running for office, for instance, but as soon as he got in there he changed his tune completely and in fact stopped singing at all as he ramped up the surveillance apparatus on Americans more than Bush ever dreamed was possible. He must have learned something that scared him speechless, for instance the attempted terror attacks that were stopped by Bush and are still kept secret from the American people. Either that or he was just lying through his teeth the whole time he promised transparency and privacy to all of us as well as safety to boot.

These types of things and people are best nipped in the bud instead of letting them get out of hand, at least in my opinion.

General Comments / Re: The Brexit
« on: April 16, 2016, 02:14:58 PM »
I have to admit that I'm smiling a pleased little smile at seeing your instinct for survival kicking in.

I fully expect the European Union to collapse now as a direct result of the inability to handle the invasion of millions of people which could have been handled over a period of decades just fine but is collapsing the socialist support systems of the countries which apparently thought a limitless amount of goodwill would translate into a limitless amount of resources to take care of massive numbers of people who will take years to assimilate and get on their feet.

The UK will be doing itself a huge favor by leaving now before they suffer a similar collapse by which I mean massive debt as a result of huge financial expenditures on immigrants that it's now shown aren't as quick out of the gate to get good paying jobs that allow them to be not only self-sufficient but contributing members of society. I'm not blaming the immigrants though necessarily because it stands to reason it will take time not only get an education to help get them off the ground but for many of them just to learn the language which may take a couple of years by itself. As with most things in life, the key is moderation and assimilating new immigrants into a country is no exception.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 16, 2016, 02:02:56 PM »
You're all making some good points and I'll let them just stand. We don't need to go back and forth on everything we disagree with or even agree on when sometimes it's enough to just each say our piece and leave it be at that.

But I will revisit the emphasis on the Christians being slaughtered and genocided by ISIS and why according to liberal theology that is actually a greater crime than when Muslims are murdering Muslims. The short answer is because when a Muslim does it to a Christian specifically because they are a Christian that is a hate crime. It has been beaten into us now for years that hate crimes are worse than regular crimes and more must be done about them. The same thing goes for genocide which we are told is worse than your run of the mill mass slaughter.

I'm all for giving Christians facing death and sex slavery at the hands of ISIS and Muslims in Africa like Boko Haram sanctuary in America or where ever they want to go but there is one big problem with that approach which is that it offers a resounding victory to the Muslims in their goal to drive the Christians out of "Muslim" territory, perhaps for the foreseeable future. Aren't liberals supposed to be opposed to that?

The only way to prevent that result is to go in there and secure the area and wrest control away from the Muslim oppressors like ISIS and others. Inviting in Christians and people of other religions from around the world, as well as peaceful Muslims, into the lands that ISIS and others are attempting to purge them from would offer poetic justice and a pleasing symmetry by not only thwarting the attempt at genocide and a religious purging but giving the genocidal Muslims the exact opposite of what they wanted and in spades with millions more Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, and anyone else who wants to come and defend their new home and the opportunity to escape whatever squalor is driving them from their home countries. All that's probably never going to happen of course but the least we should strive to prevent is ISIS achieving their goal of driving the Christians and others out of lands their ancestors have inhabited for over a thousand years and again the only way to do that is to go in there and soon to take ISIS out because the longer we wait the more final and complete this genocidal religious purging becomes.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 15, 2016, 09:54:06 PM »
Going back to justification to go to war against ISIS and destroy them utterly, if the San Bernadino attack was too indirect a connection then how about the attacks on Paris and Belgium? They are our allies and in NATO so aren't we treaty bound to help defend them and go to war with ISIS?

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 15, 2016, 04:15:13 PM »
ISIS is directly calling for these types of attacks. It seems like that's some sort of crime to me but I'm no lawyer. Are you suggesting that is completely legal?

If someone did the same thing in America we would go after them. In fact, Obama's got his law enforcement apparatus all over them looking for any such excuse to take them out.

Remember this?

 "the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks

    Returning veterans possess combat skills and experience that are attractive to right-wing extremists,” it says. “DHS/I&A is concerned that right-wing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize veterans in order to boost their violent capacities..."

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 15, 2016, 04:10:50 PM »
I'm not going to apologize for caring about Christian women. Why would anyone have such a problem with it being highlighted that Christian women are being viciously murdered by Muslims for the crime of refusing to convert to Islam?

Should we sweep it under the rug and pretend it never happened like Mama Merkel did with the mass rape by Muslims against innocent young German ladies while the police did absolutely nothing to protect them because it exposes the lies we are being told?

Why don't I mention the others? Well for one thing I did. But if it concerns you so much go ahead and mention it. Going down the list of the groups ISIS and other Muslims are abusing and oppressing, murdering in the name of Islam and enslaving will get tedious because that's a lot of people.

If you go to you can see exactly what ISIS is doing to Christian women. And Yazidis. And children.

What I'm hearing is that you don't want to do anything. That's fine. That's one option. It's just not one I support.

And in America we don't generally just let murderers and rapists and other criminals get away with it. We go after them. That's why we have the police.

Similarly when crimes are committed against Americans in acts of war by foreign powers there is no law that says we need to let those people get away with it either. We can go after them and bring them to justice. That's why we have the military.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 15, 2016, 03:02:29 PM »
Here's Bernie's position:

"Should the United States Send Ground Troops to Fight ISIS?

"Well, let's understand that when we talk about Syria, you're talking about a quagmire in a quagmire. You're talking about a group of people trying to overthrow Assad, other groups of people fighting ISIS. You're talking about people who are fighting ISIS using their guns to overthrow Assad, and vice versa. I'm the former chairman of the Senate Veterans Committee, and in that capacity I learned a very powerful lesson about the cost of war, and I will do everything that I can to make sure that the United States does not get involved in another quagmire like we did in Iraq, the worst foreign policy blunder in the history of this country. We should be putting together a coalition of Arab countries who should be leading the effort. We should be supportive, but I do not support American ground troops in Syria."

Source: New York Times, "Full Transcript: Democratic Presidential Debate,", Oct. 14, 2015

[Editor's Note: In addition to the above Con statement, Bernie Sanders also made the following statement in his Nov. 19, 2015 speech "Senator Bernie Sanders on Democratic Socialism in the United States," available at

"I’m not running to pursue reckless adventures abroad, but to rebuild America’s strength at home. I will never hesitate to defend this nation, but I will never send our sons and daughters to war under false pretense or pretenses or into dubious battles with no end in sight...

To my mind, it is clear that the United States must pursue policies to destroy the brutal and barbaric ISIS regime, and to create conditions that prevent fanatical extremist ideologies from flourishing...

A new and effective coalition must be formed with the Muslim nations leading the effort on the ground, while the United States and other major forces provide the support they need."


I agree with getting the Muslims over there to fight ISIS. That's a good plan. It's working to some extent with the Kurds. But Obama seems to have had the same idea for years now and it's just not happening. The King of Jordon made a good show of it in a moment of glory when one of their pilots was executed by ISIS but in the end nothing really came of that either. So even though that's a great idea what are we going to do if the Muslim countries simply refuse? So far for the most part they have because if they were serious, if even one major country over there was serious, ISIS would have been wiped out years ago. And that just hasn't happened.

It reminds me of the people always saying that the solution to border security is to solve all the economic, political, crime, corruption, disease, and lack of education problems of Latin America. Sure, that would be fantastic. Great idea. And until the day we finally enjoy that pie in the sky what do we do about the border? Just continue to leave it inadequately defended? Apparently, yes.

Or... maybe we don't wait until others solve our problems because that's just never going to happen. Maybe we need to solve them ourselves.

Edited to add: Just a good article that really nails it:

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 15, 2016, 02:51:18 PM »
ISIS is attacking us though. Ever heard of San Bernadino?

Boko Haram is not.

Okay I can see some people being okay with sitting back and watching Christian women getting their throats cut and their blood drained into a bucket and not caring enough to do anything about it because it's way over there but what's harder to understand is how people can see innocent Americans getting butchered like sheep in San Bernadino by ISIS and not caring enough to do anything about it. To people like me and Trump that is war. Are those just crimes though? Just let the police handle it? Maybe send the LAPD into ISIS territory to make some arrests? I think that's a little out of their jurisdiction.

 Not to mention al-Qaeda is still there and the Taliban is as strong as ever. Is New York City really that far away? If people want to be pacifists that's always their prerogative. I just pray I'm never in a position of weakness and at the mercy of evil with my only hope being those kinds of people.

But in any case, that's the difference between Trump and so many others. He's not just going to sit back and take it and smile and ask for more.

And maybe I missed it but can't recall seeing the suggestion on exactly what the proper response is supposed to be here. What should we be doing and what will it accomplish?

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 15, 2016, 12:37:11 PM »
I can accept y'all's disagreement and put it another way, as the doctor's say, "First do no harm." And along with that don't make matters worse. With our history, with war in general, and with the way this war against ISIS would have to be fought on their terms not only behind women and children but against women and children, I can understand anyone not wanting that on their conscience and understand the concern that we will only cause even more suffering no matter how sincere our desire to help since that's about all we've really achieved up to now. It's just tough to sit back and watch. But I know the right answer isn't always that you have to do something, do anything, even if it's throwing a drowning man a hammer to hope that will help fix his situation.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 15, 2016, 12:10:35 PM »
Standing back and watching people get murdered and turned into sex slaves the way ISIS is doing when we can put a stop to it isn't any more moral than pulling the trigger or raping them ourselves. I guess that's the disconnect. Liberals release violent criminals from prison because of prison overcrowding, a 5-4 Supreme Court decision the liberal justices came down on the side of allowing new victims to suffer, and feel no responsibility for the crimes caused by their lack of action. It looks like that's the difference between a liberal and a conservative. If we put boots on the ground then all the collateral damage, the women and children who die because of course ISIS will hide behind them and use them as human shields is our fault, not the fault of ISIS. But if we do nothing and let those children be turned into psychopathic monsters used as brainwashed weapons by ISIS and if girls are turned into sex slaves and baby making factories to pump out a whole generation of ISIS soldiers to rinse and repeat this cycle then that's all on ISIS. Nothing to do with us even if we could have stopped it. Obama could have nipped it in the bud but as usual the threat was underestimated and downplayed. We all remember the "JV team". ISIS is still in its infancy. Taking them out now will reduce the misery quotient of the world much more than sitting back with a coke and some popcorn and just watching the cancer metastasize because cutting it out will be painful; it's going to be a lot less painful than letting it grow. That's what Trump understands that Obama, Hillary, Bernie, and even many of the Republican candidates don't.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 15, 2016, 11:31:19 AM »

Donald Trump on Islamic State: Put boots on the ground, ‘take the oil for our country’

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump on Monday said his plan for combating the Islamic State terrorist group would be to “knock the hell out of” them and take back the oil the group controls in the Middle East.

“They have great money because they have oil. They have much oil,” Mr. Trump said via phone on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “Any place where they have oil, I would knock the hell out of ‘em, and I would put boots on the ground in those areas; I would take the oil. Because what you’re doing is you’re cutting off a big portion of their money source.”


"Trump is only suggesting murdering women and children."

As opposed to letting ISIS continue to do it for us?

ISIS has already proven they are willing to take the fight to us. They aren't just murdering "their" women and children. They are murdering ours. Should we just sit back and play with our drones until they launch another 9-11 type attack, meaning not with planes but something catastrophic for which we are unprepared like a dirty bomb, poisoning a water supply, blowing up a dam, etc?

Like I said, Obama doesn't take the threat seriously. Neither do most of his supporters. Obama's more worried about getting attacked by his bathtub.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 15, 2016, 10:18:58 AM »
Obama pulled out of Iraq too early.  I mean that's just obvious. The mistake wasn't going into Iraq. The mistake was abandoning those people when they needed us most. Obama doesn't want to do what needs to be done to stop slavery over there which is boots on the ground. Doing that will amount to admission of failure.

Obama continually insults the police and takes the side of blacks even when they are criminals.

There are some bad cops, no doubt about it, but many of these high profile cases are of good cops acting appropriately against criminals such as in Ferguson. The federal investigation there proved it. Has Obama come out and made the case for black people showing more respect for the cops? No. Obama himself has no respect for the police. Why would he when in his book he brags about enthusiastically trying every recreational drug he could get his hands on?

Why doesn't Obama get out there and go over the Ferguson case and put it quite bluntly to blacks that the cop was right and BLM is idiotic to use that case to justify anything at all?

"The black teen killed by a white cop in Ferguson, Mo., viciously attacked the officer as he sat in his patrol car, delivering a bone-crunching punch that shattered the cop’s eye socket, a report claimed Tuesday.

Officer Darren Wilson suffered an “orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket,” Gateway Pundit reported, citing sources in the St. Louis County Police Department and the DA’s office."

Here's what a cop has to say about it:

"Clarke, who accused Obama with showing a “general disdain” for police officers, cautioned about a rush to judgement."


"General disdain." Perfect. He put that quite well.


On Tuesday, Obama denounced the burning and looting that took place in Baltimore, but after pointing to Ferguson, Mo., he added that “there are some police who aren’t doing the right thing.”

“I think there are police departments that have to do some soul-searching,” Obama said.


Again, Obama's own federal investigation cleared the cop in Ferguson and yet that is still used as a rallying cry for Black Lives Matter and I suppose it's just a coincidence that with the President deriding the police we are getting a rash of cop shootings where people aren't even involved in a crime but they just walk up to a cop from behind and start shooting. Was that a popular thing to do before Obama? Well apparently it is now.

So the point is that Obama is a miserable excuse for a President and Trump will be so much better you won't even believe it. It's going to be a huge improvement right out of the gate just with the difference in attitude where Trump loves America and wants to make it great again as opposed to Obama who hates America and must bring it down low to build it back up the way he wants it.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 15, 2016, 08:04:08 AM »

Why Has The World Forgotten Islamic State's Female Sex Slaves?
By Skye Wheeler On 4/14/16 at 11:58 AM

"Twenty months ago the Islamic State (ISIS) abducted thousands of Yezidi women and girls as the extremist group swept through their villages in northern Iraq in the middle of a terrible summer. Many were forced to become sex slaves for the group’s fighters. Hundreds remain enslaved and many of those who have escaped are still reliving the trauma and often not getting the help they desperately need."

This is Obama's failure.

With all the talk from blacks about slavery you don't hear any of them least of all Obama talking about putting a stop to modern day slavery and more importantly actually doing something about it.

Instead the focus is on assassinating police officers by shooting them in the back as happened again in Houston.

"Clopton had assisted a colleague with a traffic stop and was leaning into a patrol vehicle when he was shot from behind."

This is what Trump and his supporters mean when they say they want to make America great again. It means putting a stop to ISIS and modern day slavery over there, securing the border and cracking down on sex slavery right here in America, and stopping the war on police. We always here about how dangerous rhetoric is and how what we should be concerned with most right now is anti-terrorist rhetoric that will cause violence against Muslims but liberals like Obama and BLM don't seem to appreciate their own arguments may also apply to their hateful attacks on police many of which are built on outright lies. Or do they appreciate it and that's why they do it?

So this is another part of the Trump draw. People are tired of everything getting turned upside down where the bad guys are the victims and the good guys like the police are made out to be evil.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 14, 2016, 12:14:35 PM »
Going back to the issue of Trump being the most likely candidate willing to expose government corruption, especially much of what Obama is hiding, this is an example:

" By Tom Fitton | April 13, 2016

Barack Obama at a news conference last month with Rahm Emanuel. They and another Obama staffer, Valerie Jarrett, have been interviewed in connection with the investigation of Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich.

For several years we have been seeking records of then President-elect Barack Obama’s interview with two FBI agents and two assistant U.S. attorneys regarding former Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich, who was sentenced to fourteen years in federal prison for attempting to sell Obama’s vacated Senate seat...

... The FBI contends the release of these records “could reasonably be expected” to interfere with law enforcement proceedings...

... Writing in The Washington Examiner, Rudy Takala noted, “There are no enforcement proceedings related to the case known to be pending, leading critics to charge that the agency's denial is politically motivated...

... Well, yes.  This lawsuit highlights the personal corruption issues of Barack Obama.  He and his closest aides were interviewed by the FBI in a criminal investigation, and his administration doesn’t want Americans to have the details. The Chicago way shouldn’t TRUMP the American people’s right to know.

It won’t if we have anything to do with it."


I put the TRUMP in all caps. What did Obama know and when did he know it? What is "the most transparent administration in history" hiding? If Bernie or Hillary get elected will we ever find out? Not a chance. What about Kasich or some other Pollyanna? Not likely. Cruz might tell us but he won't gloat as much as he should about it. Trump will gleefully expose the massive corruption of Obama without hesitation and publicly scoff and ridicule the naivete of most Obama supporters while revealing the true colors of those who know Obama is corrupt and just don't care or know exactly how corrupt he is and delight in the fact that he has gotten away with so much. Until now.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 14, 2016, 09:21:32 AM »
Yeah. And don't forget the bathtub killers, Obama's top priority since they apparently murder more Americans every year than Muslims. I'm sorry but it's just not possible to take the "innocence of Muslims" seriously especially when we are now seeing the release of evidence that the Saudi government itself was probably helping the 9-11 terrorists and we know that Pakistan was hiding bin Laden. I guess what you assert makes sense though, but only if you agree with Obama that the violent Muslims like the ones in ISIS and al-Qaeda are not "true" Muslims. In that case there is no Muslim violence at all.

Here's a little bit of good news though.

"Washington (AFP) - An American-made Iraqi army tank that locals have fondly nicknamed "The Beast" is playing a major role driving the Islamic State group from a town on the frontlines, a Pentagon official said Wednesday."

Maybe it's just propaganda but that's fine because it brings up a point I want to make anyway. I don't want to go into Iraq and Syria and destroy ISIS and take the oil ISIS is using to fund itself and terrorism. It's just that it needs to be done. The sooner ISIS is stopped, the better off the world will be. It doesn't really matter who does it. If Iraq with U.S. help and Syria with Russian help can do it that is definitely the best case scenario. But just letting ISIS continue to build its strength and attack the heart of Europe as well as inspire attacks in America is the worst possible option.

But I'm willing to listen to ideas, for instance Greg what do you think is the best way to handle it then?

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 13, 2016, 10:13:14 AM »
Just because I only mentioned Christians doesn't mean we shouldn't protect the Jews and Yazidis and Kurds along with the gay and emo Muslims and everyone else. I thought that would be covered under the broad umbrella of those suffering from Muslim oppression, including of course other Muslims such as the one in Scotland who was just murdered by a fellow Muslim for saying that he hoped all his Christian friends had a happy Easter holiday.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 13, 2016, 09:57:26 AM »
Asking what authority do we have is one question. A good question.

Another good question is what duty do we have?

Don't we have a duty to protect the Christians over there who are having their throats cut and their blood drained into a bucket because they refuse to convert to Islam?

Or is that just too bad, so sad?

Don't we have a duty to stop ISIS from raising a generation, or more, of psychopathic killers from the cradle to their suicide bomb detonation?

What was our authority to bomb the hell out of the Christians defending themselves from violent Muslims in Bosnia?

What did those Muslims do once they had the upper hand? Burn the Christian churches and force the Christians to flee?

It's funny how you don't see the results of our actions in the news anymore.

Our duty to defend the innocent from evil is what gives us the authority.

And those innocent people include our own citizens here in America such as those murdered in San Bernadino. The longer we sit back and allow ISIS to thrive, the more effective and influential their recruiting efforts will become. Nothing breeds imitation like success. Again, that's why we need to make an example out of them.

And in this case we can't just go in and take them out and then leave because this Islamic blood phoenix would just rise again.

And what authority did we have to occupy Japan and Germany? Well whatever that authority was we have the same authority to do it to ISIS, and the oil is justly due reparations, much of which will be paid out to the victims of ISIS and their families.

But don't worry. There's basically no way we will do what I'm suggesting so we're going to try it Obama's way and just keep failing, each new innocent victim of ISIS another reminder of that continuing failure to stop them.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 13, 2016, 08:14:08 AM »
If we liberated France from Germany and then they turned into something like ISIS and attacked us on our home soil with their terrorists so that we had to go back in there or keep watching our civilians die then yes we should have taken France. As it is we have occupied Germany and Japan with tens of thousands of troops for over seventy years now. And Korea for decades as well. Was that a mistake? Or did it work?

So why should ISIS be any different?

And Japan pays for about half of our military expenses to occupy them. Why should ISIS get off any easier? And how else will they pay besides oil? Mineral deposits? Well of course we will take those too.

If some other country like China or Russia wanted to go in there and wipe out ISIS then I'd have no problem with them doing the exact same thing I'm suggesting. It wouldn't hurt to make an example out of them so nobody tries this again.

If you've got a better idea then please do share. So far I'm not really seeing anything. Only Trump's idea looks like it would be effective.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 13, 2016, 08:08:39 AM »
We take their oil by taking over the country (ISIS territory held now minus some given back to Iraq and Syria and of course the Kurds get to own and keep everything they are claiming since they are the only ones really fighting) and flooding it with tens if not hundreds of millions of people from all over the world looking for an escape from poverty, violence, lack of opportunity, disease, starvation, and all the rest of it of course especially including those seeking to escape Muslim oppression. It will be a liberal's paradise with tolerance for all. Every race and every religion. It will even feature gay marriage and transgendered restrooms. Then some of those people can receive training to work in the oil industry and we will even set up our own refineries over there so we don't have to ship it to America for that process which will help save on transportation and reduce the carbon footprint and so help to save the world from global warming. The American flag will fly over this new colony with their own flag that the citizens come up with underneath it. After working a "tour" of ten years and making a contribution while staying out of trouble, these people and their children will be eligible to become American citizens. "Service means citizenship! Would you like to know more?"

In thirty to fifty years the non-American citizens of this colony can vote on becoming a state, their own independent nation, or something in between like Puerto Rico. The American citizens can decide if they want to stay there as ex-pats or come stateside or do whatever else they want to do where ever they want to do it with the new skills they have learned and the education they have received and all the money they've earned and saved.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 12, 2016, 05:55:24 PM »
Space exploration at this point seems too pie in the sky for me.

I'd rather do like the Chinese and focus on the oceans except in addition to man-made islands we should work on colonizing the depths and mining the ocean floors.

But still keep up with the space exploration as well. It's just not going to happen nearly fast enough for my taste while ocean colonization can pretty much start now, and much of what we learn doing that will be applicable to space exploration as well.

As for ISIS territory, taking their oil is a small price to pay to stop the damage they are doing. That's damage being done that can never be undone. Japan pays us huge amounts of money to occupy them and I don't see why we should let ISIS off any more lightly. Plus it will work as a magnet to attract attacks from all the crazies over there, redirecting their focus away from the heartland and we would let the new immigrants from all over the world volunteer to supply much of the cannon fodder defense forces using a defense in depth strategy composed of many layers with them being on the more dangerous periphery so they might experience the pride and joy of earning their freedom and new opportunities for themselves and their descendants the way many of our ancestors did for us.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 12, 2016, 04:27:37 PM »
So just leave them be then?

Or go in and get our good soldiers killed out of charity?

That's not going to happen so then we're left back at doing little to nothing.

What do you think is the right play?

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 12, 2016, 04:19:18 PM »
True. There's no denying it. But we can't keep letting it be used to help fund the genocide of non-Muslims by ISIS. And we can't risk it going back into the hands of ISIS 2.0, both the oil and the territory. And we deserve to be compensated for the tremendous cost in blood and money we will have to pay to stop them. So what's the other choice?

Keep doing the bare minimum to deflect suspicion from Obama that he doesn't really consider this a problem? Or keep doing what the EU is doing which is nothing at all?

That reminds me... I also agree with Trump's stance on waterboarding. Belgium captured that Paris terrorist and he decided he didn't want to talk anymore and wanted a lawyer. A few days later Brussels was hit by terrorists he probably knew about and if thirty or more people died with hundreds horrifically injured because he wasn't waterboarded then on one side you have those who say all of those people dying and getting maimed was worth it not to waterboard him and on the other side you have Trump and me saying waterboarding one terrorist would have been a very small price to pay, and well worth it, to save those poor people doomed by their own government for the sake of a terrorist.

If they purposefully target civilians then in my opinion they aren't entitled to protection under the Geneva and Hague conventions otherwise what's the incentive for anyone at all to abide by them?

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 12, 2016, 03:43:52 PM »
Yeah those numbers were too much for me to deal with. Sorry.

No I won't be that despondent if she wins. I'm looking at dual Irish citizenship though to have a backup "bug-out" country. It was going to be Japan but unfortunately they got irradiated. But I won't be like one of the liberals after Trump wins such as I heard stories about when Bush won his second term. Like this one:

"Got into the office early today to get some extra work knocked out but I've been having a lot of trouble concentrating as liberal after liberal goes screaming past outside my office window with a look of sheer terror in their eyes and screaming like they just witnesses bloody murder. Come on people. Bush isn't going to be THAT bad, is he? Even though we disagree politically, many of these people are my good water cooler gossip friends so as our eyes briefly meet I give them a big encouraging smile and hearty thumbs up. Though to be honest I'm not sure how much good it's going to really do seeing as how I work up on the forty-fifth floor... But I do wish them well."

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 12, 2016, 03:24:46 PM »
I agree with Cruz more than Trump over the broad spectrum of issues but on the issues that I agree with Trump I have more hope that Trump will actually be able to get something done about them.

For instance regarding border security, deporting illegals, destroying ISIS and taking the oil they use to fund their terror spree as just compensation, negotiating trade deals that are fairer for America, tackling inefficiency and waste in government like it was a business for instance by firing people, I expect that Trump and Cruz would largely agree except on ISIS but Trump seems like he is the only one who would actually do what he says he will do in part because he won't worry about all the feelings he will hurt while getting it done.

Clinton will continue the flooding of America will illegals and all manner of other future Democrat voters regardless of the fact that we are trillions of dollars in debt and will only dig ourselves deeper into the sinkhole if we don't do something different from what we've been doing. Not to mention the votes of those people will seal the fate of the Republican party and usher in generations of Democratic socialist failure.  Kasich will do that too for the cheap labor and for purposes of pandering and the result will be the same even if it takes a few years longer because he keeps the floodgates open whereas Clinton blows up the dam. But basically, yes, I disagree with Clinton about as much as I agree with Trump. I would say my scale may have been +275 to -275. I probably agree with Clinton on cutting pollution and I fear it will increase with Trump though even with Clinton she will probably act as feebleminded as most Democrats nowadays by concentrating on carbon instead of real pollution like mercury, lead, sulfur, dioxins, and the like.  Hopefully Trump will keep his word and get rid of Obamacare. I understand he's even agreed to single payer and though I don't think that will work out as well as most supporters hope and I disagree with it on principle, it will still be a vast improvement over Obamacare.

I think I mentioned before that I agree with Newt's idea of a two tiered system where people can buy insurance if they want or they can get free or subsidized healthcare courtesy of the government but they may have to wait longer or the care may not be top notch, for instance on par with what veterans get or prisoners. And of course there is a third tier which is cash. So even if Trump does go with single payer that is fine as long as people still have the option of buying insurance that can get you faster and better care from private providers. I'm seeing something like that in action now. My mother in law had a stroke in Japan and though she would get care even if she were indigent she gets better care such as a private hospital room because she has insurance. That may not seem "fair" compared to Canada and Britain where if I'm not mistaken they make everyone wait and receive the same (lousy) level of service but it helps support the health care system not to have everyone so dependent on it and helps lead to better medical advances when there are financial incentives for discovering them. I also mentioned my idea to have a "militarized" healthcare system in which people could have their medical education paid for or provided in government run training facilities in return for a term of service after which they could go into the private sector. I hear that the number of doctors and nurses are purposefully limited by the industry in order to keep prices, salaries, and profits artificially high. The solution is obviously to increase the supply of medical practitioners and since the industry itself is limiting it only the government will be able to step in to solve the problem.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 12, 2016, 02:25:07 PM »
JFK was probably all right besides all the affairs. It may have been his anti-corruption that got him killed in that he and his brother seemed intent on, rightfully in my opinion, cracking down hard on the mob. I don't remember saying he was corrupt. Johnson was though. His voter fraud in Texas is legendary.

Back to Trump. I like the fact that he is willing to insult people and countries. That's what we need more of especially when they like getting up on their high horse and telling us how terrible we are such as Europe was doing with the Muslim refugee crisis and now look at them. They must be racist Islamophobes too now since they are putting tighter controls on the free flow of humanity like many of us suggested they do in the first place. Idiots.

And Mexico too. I'm not saying they are deliberately sending their criminals across but if they are doing nothing to stop them then that's pretty much the same difference. I would be curious to know how many of their criminals that they suspect have crossed the border they have given us a heads up about so we know to look out for them and how many of their criminals they have asked to be extradited back to Mexico so they can face the music for the crimes they committed there. There are a few cartel kingpins they may have warned us about but rapists, child molesters, and your run of the mill murderer? It looks like they are just glad those people are our problem now.

The same thing goes for China and its abuse of monetary and trade policy at our expense. This going along to get along nonsense, refusing to ruffle any feathers and letting Americans suffer for it has gone on long enough.  I don't agree with Donald insulting many of those he has insulted such as Ted's wife, but we can't continue to paralyze ourselves with fear about possibly insulting someone when we know very well that they will use that against us to take advantage and have their way to our detriment.

Sanders -100
Clinton - 250
Kasich + 30
Cruz +200
Trump +250
Jack in the Box +45

General Comments / Re: I may have to vote for Trump
« on: April 09, 2016, 10:07:19 AM »
How much worse could Trump be for black unemployment than Obama?

We gave Obama a try. Something new, something different. Worth a shot perhaps but it just didn't pan out.

Trump is the new something new, the different something different. If Obama was worth a shot then so is Trump.

As for Muslims staying alive, if they are already in America then they may be more likely to stay alive if we at least vet the new ones coming in and limit the ones coming from radicalized countries.

For instance:

Funeral of Muslim Shopkeeper Killed for Wishing Christians 'Happy Easter' Attended by Hundreds

And that goes for blacks too who are being hurt more by catch and release than they are by anything the police will ever do to them.

"Lamar Harris had seven felony convictions and 43 arrests when he shot three Chicago police officers. The same week, Samuel Harviley, who had just been paroled after serving less than half of his sentence for armed carjacking, shot yet another of the Windy City’s finest.

Police officials, researchers and many elected leaders all agree that the pair were prime examples of the violent pool of criminals driving the city’s historically high crime rate. Ex-cons well-known to police and with a proven propensity for violence are being let out early from prison or let off lightly by judges, only to wreak havoc on the city, they say."

I suppose it was worth a try. Like Obama. But it failed so now it's time to try something else.

General Comments / Re: I may have to vote for Trump
« on: April 09, 2016, 09:19:21 AM »
I feel ya because if John Kasich or any other establishment candidate managed to pilfer the nomination out from under Cruz or Trump I would be more likely to vote for Bernie than any of them or just not vote at all or write in a candidate although there is no way I'd vote for Hillary.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 07, 2016, 05:02:26 PM »
I would like to hope that Sanders will do something and certainly even though on policy I probably disagree with him more than Hillary I'd still rather see him get elected than her because there is a slight possibility he will investigate and do something about waste, fraud, and general corruption. I'm just hesitant to trust him because I feel that Obama was promising the same sort of things and we all experienced the disappointing results for instance as far as I know nobody going to prison for crimes committed during the housing meltdown. That happened mostly under Bush so Obama would have been free to pursue legal action without even taking any of the blame, unless you count the Freddie/Fannie connection to the Democrats. Much of that misbehavior was actually technically legal but I can't believe that all of it was and yet there weren't many if any prosecutions. I do agree with Bernie very much about breaking up Too Big to Fail companies. If it's too big to fail then it's too big to exist. I hear Trump though and he is also talking about tackling Wall Street and the bankers and they seem to be taking him seriously too the way they are trying to stop him.

I disagree with Iraq being a good example of this type of corruption but that's a whole big topic to get into though I will sum up my opinion as if it was a mistake it was based on faulty intelligence such as that coming from an Iraqi general and even that is questionable as far as how faulty it was because we still have no idea or any longer even any curiousity about that massive convoy of trucks that was caught on satellite video rolling into Syria right before we invaded. If those were chemical weapons, for instance maybe some of the ones used in the Syrian civil war, then maybe we weren't wrong at all. And in any case Saddam was violating the cease fire agreement that left him in power and numerous UN resolutions. The big mistake was pulling out too early allowing the rise of ISIS. I was with McCain on the need to occupy them for decades like we've done with Germany and Japan and Korea and in fact I agree with Trump that we can pull out of those countries and use all those troops and resources to invade and occupy ISIS territory and steal all their oil.

Having said that, there are numerous other examples of corruption that both parties benefit from and cover up to tackle and I agree that there isn't much public outcry about it but I also believe that is largely because these crimes are covered up well enough that they are unknown and I just trust Trump to work to expose them more than Bernie. That seems to be Trump's primary agenda while Bernie has a different agenda that he will focus on. Trump will be able to tackle this and then say, "See I told you so." Bernie has a lot more on his plate and isn't talking about this type of thing as much or as forcefully.

General Comments / Re: Living in the future
« on: April 07, 2016, 04:05:01 PM » is about seventy bucks on sale which it almost always is or ninety-nine regular and Natgeo2.0 is one-fifty on sale which it seems like it almost always is too but if they aren't look around and try to find a discount code online because I've seen those too and they'll bring it down to the sale price. The Natgeo site gives some information about some of the differences which I'll sum up as Ancestry being more about finding people related to you and tracing your tree, Natgeo being about your deep ancestry and the one I'm using there pretty much traces the patrilineal descent which is good for me because I hit a dead end on my dad's side anyway, and 23andme being more about genetic predisposition to illnesses.

If you have any siblings one good thing about these is that hopefully what applies to you will apply to them so in my case I'm getting four tests for the price of one and they are all interested when I share the results around the Thanksgiving or Christmas table.

My results were 42% Irish, 38% Western European, 9% Great Britain, and 11% trace: 3% Eastern European, 2% Scandinavian, 2% Italy/Greece, 2% Iberian Peninsula, 1% Finland/Northwest Russia, and 1% European Jewish.

My wife and I were really disappointed with her results because if someone is East Asian that's all it comes back as with no breakdown of Japanese/Chinese/Korean/Ainu/Vietnamese, etc. so that was pretty much worthless because we know she is Japanese going back at least hundreds of years but were curious if she might be part Ainu since she if from Northern Japan or if she might have traces of other ethnic groups so I would say for Asian people this test may not be worth it until they can get it more inline with the type of results you get if you are European.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 07, 2016, 03:53:02 PM »
I don't suppose anyone has heard about the voting machines that switch Republican votes to Democrat votes? Or the ones that switch Bernie votes to Hillary?

Nobody is going to get to the bottom of that type of illegal activity but Trump. He's the only one who will be willing to play hardball.

The rest of them will cover it up because exposing the true level of corruption would cause such outrage that it would threaten them all.

That's why they are all teaming up to take Trump out. He's the only one who is truly a threat to the bacon wrapped shrimp club they've been enjoying all this time.

And I don't really have a problem with Cruz. He'll make a fine Supreme Court justice as Trump's first order of business when the Republicans maintain control of the Senate and rubber stamp him. But Cruz doesn't have the brass ones Trump has to reveal all the corruption and Cruz proves it by how nice he is. Right now we don't need nice. We need downright mean and rude.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 07, 2016, 03:50:21 PM »
As for a President who was less corrupt than Obama I would without hesitation offer Richard "Tricky Dick" Nixon.

And he was the most corrupt President up until Obama.

And let me be clear about Nixon in that I think Ford was a true putz to pardon him. He should have served the rest of his life in federal prison. The pardon made a mockery of the law and exemplified what Trump is saying about the establishment and how they always cover for each other. Nobody but Trump will investigate federal officials who have committed crimes, from top to bottom, from the ATF to the IRS all the way to Hillary and Barrack. And certainly nobody else will send them to federal prison after their convictions. Why would Trump do that? Because exposing the corruption in Washington and the you rub my back and I'll rub yours way of things will vindicate him and everything he is saying right now. His willingness to make the hard and unpopular stands and say the insulting things he says proves he is the only one willing to do what it takes to tackle the massive corruption not to mention the more run of the mill waste, fraud, and abuse endemic in our government right now.

Correct me if I'm wrong here but doesn't Obama have more unanimous Supreme Court decisions, at least 20 so far, against him and isn't that more than any other President? That means even the liberals he appointed slapped him upside the head and waved the Constitution in his face and then one at a time walked by him and shouted, "No!" in his ear.

As I mentioned before there are also the matters of the date of his Selective Service registration and whether or not he registered as a foreign student for benefits while going to college. I agree with Trump on not mentioning the birth certificate thing for the moment until after he gets into office and can get to the bottom of all of these mysteries. Mystery still on the birth certificate? Well it was mysterious that one of the government officials involved in it inexplicably died in a plane crash after she was already in the water with a life jacket with the other survivors. Echoes of Ron Brown who was about to go after Bill Clinton and investigate some of his schemes.

General Comments / Re: Living in the future
« on: April 07, 2016, 03:24:28 PM »
Do you think they'll have some sort of immortality / extreme longevity advances before we die? It's a good time to be alive with all these advances. And perhaps one of the worst times to die, right when we're on the cusp of being able to live so much longer if only we can make it a few more decades.

The advances in finding out your ancestry with DNA are also pretty fun. I got one test done with and am looking forward to my results with Natgeo in about ten weeks, which will tell me how much of my DNA is Neanderthal. I think I mentioned I was part Cherokee before. Turns out that was a mistake (or a pack of lies if you prefer). My grandfather's second wife was Cherokee but I am descended from his first wife who was Irish. So much for opening up my casino. My mom has a cousin who is part Cherokee from that first wife though and she turned up on my Ancestry results as a fourth-sixth cousin because she had taken the test also and was online with her results. Some people in my family were wondering about and questioning the accuracy but I point out that it also found my closest relative who had taken the test which was my great-uncle who lives just a couple of hours away.  Also doing some ancestry tracing online I found a whole bunch of royalty who are my ancestors so now I expect to be treated with a great deal more respect around here.

Anyway I consider that another relatively recent technological advance that's exciting to play around with.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 03, 2016, 07:13:24 AM »
D.W. has the better sense of it here because I'm not talking about a closed border but instead a secure border. People will still be able to come and go and the difference then compared to now is that we will know who they are and what they're about.  The open border means that massive numbers of people are coming and going at will without anybody knowing anything about them because they can come and go without so much as a "by your leave", for instance by coming through tunnels, swimming a river, getting smuggled in a van or semi, or just simply walking across. At least with the half or so of illegals who flew in and overstayed their visas we know who they are so of course it will be easy enough to pinch them whenever they show up on the radar and definitely put them and perhaps their families on the list of people who can never come here legally again.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: April 03, 2016, 07:03:55 AM »
Another great thing about Trump compared to all the other candidates is that Trump won't hesitate to expose all of the illegal activity of Obama along with the incompetence and immorality of his administration. The other candidates will be content to sweep it all under the rug and move on "for the good of the country." Trump is the only one who agrees with me that shining a spotlight on this corruption and watching all the cockroaches scatter and the scumbags turn on each other like rats in a cage as he seeks prosecutions is what's good for the country. He won't hesitate to expose Obama for the imposter usurper fraud that he is such as by revealing if he registered as a foreign student and in fact had a student I.D. that identified him as a foreign student and also if he backdated his Selective Service registration, which is most likely since he wasn't required to register for Selective Service before he turned 18 because the law didn't require that until later so why on Earth would he? We'll also get to the bottom of what Obama is trying to hide with his massive slow walking and outright denial of FOIA requests, along with prosecutions at the IRS for illegally targeting the Tea Party and the statute of limitations hopefully won't be up on Lerner either so she can have her pension stripped since she won't be needing it in federal prison anyway. She won't be lonely though because Hillary will be there to keep her company.

General Comments / Re: Election Day
« on: March 31, 2016, 07:27:36 PM »
Well there's hundreds of guys with convictions for drunk driving, child rape, illegal drug use, who were cartel assassins, etc. and then there are millions of people who have had absolutely no problems with the law at all.  Who do you let in first?

With an open border you don't have any say in the matter.

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