So it looks like part of the evidence collected to date and shown to the Georgia Legislature involves what appears to be election fraud of a scale that could in fact have changed the result of election. Specifically, poll workers caught on camera removing election observers from the counting room and then taking out suitcases of ballots to be counted while those observers were not present. Based on the length of time involved and the number of ballots that could have been processed in that time, it would be more than enough to overturn the margin of victory. Even counting ballots in that circumstance is election fraud, let alone counting ballots from such a dubious source.
K. So I watched this evidence video. With and without a Trump lawyer who specifically said she was not acting as a lawyer at the time (cute) explaining their version of events.
It shows some election workers pulling out a box of ballots out from under a table and counting them. That's it. There are a bunch of assumptions going on with the conspiracy version (yes, it is a conspiracy theory, I'll get to that later).
1. Observers were asked to leave.
2. The ballots were not just normal ballots stored under the table.
On one hand you have some affidavits (not checked) that say some lady with blonde hair and braids told people to leave. That's it. There is nothing that says that these were not just normal ballots being run through the machines.
On the other hand, you have the statements from the workers there (well of COURSE they're going to lie, right? That's exactly what a wife beater says when you ask them if they beat their wife). Then you have the guy running the election for Fulton county, the chief investigator for the GA Sec of State (a Republican), and the guy he has running the election (a Republican).
So we have two conflicting versions of events.
1. Nobody told observers and press to leave. Press never did leave. These were ballots that had already been checked and stored for counting.
2. Somebody told the observers to leave. All the election workers in the counting room were in on a conspiracy to commit fraud. They filled out 1000 to 10,000 absentee or mail in ballots. They destroyed the 1,000 to 10,000 ballots they were replacing (otherwise the numbers of envelopes would not match the number of ballots), they hid the ballots under a table under the noses of observers and press. The guy running the election for Fulton county was in on the conspiracy or is stupid (not mutually exclusive, more on that later). The chief investigator for the GA Sec of State is in on it or stupid. The guy running the entire election for the GA Sec of State is in on it or stupid (lotsa Deep State Never Trumpers in GA apparently). The GA Sec of State is in on it or stupid. The Governor of Georgia is in on it or incompetent. And the fraud needs to be carried out while the people committing the fraud have media in the area and cameras pointed at them. At the very least you need everybody counting votes on that floor to be in on the fraud and a bunch of other people to be stupid. That's a conspiracy.
If it is true, the evidence should be brought before the DA and judges, charges filed, trial, conviction, and whatever punishment applies to the individuals committing the fraud. Probably imprisonment. If found guilty and details involving the fraud come to light, the entire vote from the county should be discounted. GA Legislators should figure something out for their electors, but they're probably pretty hamstrung on the law. You gotta follow procedures. You can't make up the rules of the game as you go along. This isn't Calvinball. That was the entire argument back Florida 2000. Florida learned from that and I hope Georgia learns from this.
It does seem, even though the GA Sec of State and his election people are backing the results, that they believe the guy, or people, or whatever, running the elections in Fulton County are incompetent. But this has mostly to do with communication problems and working computers. It has to do with speed, not accuracy.
This stuff isn't new. This conspiracy theory has been floating around for awhile. Plenty of inaccuracy in it that displays the lack of knowledge of the procedure on the accusers. It's been debunked, though apparently Rudy Giuliani thinks there is meat to it. But apparently nothing good enough to bring to a DA or judge. The Republicans on the Fulton county election board voted to invalidate the results, but only because the total number of votes changed every time there was a recount. At the last recount there was like a 900 vote difference. It points towards incompetency, but not towards conspiracy, fraud, or even enough votes to make a difference.
Sorry, but to me, this is weak tea. I'll say it again. Infiltrate the dealer and find the supplier. The people making the accusations should have been brought forward (the blonde lady spotter),
the workers should have been brought forward. The investigator and media on site should have been brought forward. The observers should have been. I havn't seen any of that. I seen one lady who says she is a lawyer but not acting as one (real cute) and one guy running elections for the county who has answered all the questions the Republican members of the elections board asked of him.
Oh, and by GA law, you don't NEED observers in the room when counting is being done. They are allowed to be there, but if they leave the counting doesn't stop or insn't invalid. That's
GA law. If it's a bad one, that's something the GA General Assembly, Republican controlled, should be able to take care of.
The whole thing is full of holes. If you want the GA General Assembly or the GA Supreme Court to step in, you better do better homework. This is the Kavanaugh hearing again. It's another tribal thing. I think some people are so desperate now to show that there was SOME FRAUD, and that it was possibly HUGE, that they'll grasp at anything. Your video is weak tea. The idea that all these Republicans involved are all Deep State Never Trumpers certainly fits with the insane theories coming from the White House for the last few years, but it's pretty weak too. The desperation stinks. I understand that crazy people are going to buy it, but when normally intelligent and thoughtful people start being sucked into the conspiracy theories because they're desperate to be right or desperate to win, it's pretty pathetic.
What is especially sad for me is that I really wanted Loeffler and Perdue to win. Or at least one of the. I'm not keen on the Dems controlling both the Presidency and Congress. But this conspiracy theory stuff could depress the R vote in Georgia. And the Republican party will deserve it, for backing such nonsense. Good job GOP. The Trumpers will take the ship down with them.