Doctors spewing nonsense and malpractice

[LetterRip]

Should Doctors who post (do videos, etc.) medical nonsense (vaccines mutate your DNA, vaccines cause autism) lose their medical license?  Should the government seek sanctions or other legal action against them?

[yossarian22c]

Should Doctors who post (do videos, etc.) medical nonsense (vaccines mutate your DNA, vaccines cause autism) lose their medical license?  Should the government seek sanctions or other legal action against them?

Lose medical license. Yes. Gross ignorance of medicine and vaccines should be disqualifying from practicing.

Government sanctions or legal action. No.

[Fenring]

I suppose it depends of what a doctor's profession is supposed to be. If the doctor is licensed to practice various remedies, prescribe medicine, do checkups, or whatever the doctor's specialty is, and if the doctor does these things according to the terms of the art, then it would seem he/she is doing the job correctly. Now if posting opinions on medicine or speaking off the cuff about their fears is also part of their technical job description then I guess that would be part of what they are licensed to do. Is it? If not then it's a private effort on their parts apart from their jobs as doctors. Also I can't imagine the actual prescription side of doctoring has a built-in mandate: for instance prescribing a particular medication is something a doctor could do, but not something they must do. Failing to prescribe Ambien for someone with sleeping problems is not malpractice; maybe the doctor fears its long-term effects. And if the doctor tells a patient - even while in session - that in his opinion these sleeping pills are crazy, then I guess go to another doctor if you want a different opinion. The only time it would be malpractice (which is why you should lose your license) is if you're either incorrectly doing a procedure, or if you prescribe things for invalid reasons. Telling people not to take something doesn't sound like it could be malpractice; more like just go to a more reasonable doctor.

[TheDrake]

That's an odd stance, that a doctor giving advice outside standards practice is not a problem. Anti Vax doctors should be scorched. Insurance companies should stop paying them. Their colleagues should bring licensing and ethics charges.

Theoretically, they might not be giving that advice to patients, just posting publically but does that seem likely?

[cherrypoptart]

There is no proof that the Covid-19 vaccines have caused people to have blood clotting problems and die within days of getting them. There is no proof of a causal connection.

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca-benefits-still-outweigh-risks-despite-possible-link-rare-blood-clots#:~:text=COVID%2D19%20Vaccine%20AstraZeneca%20is,all%20in%20women%20under%2055.

"These are rare cases – around 20 million people in the UK and EEA had received the vaccine as of March 16 and EMA had reviewed only 7 cases of blood clots in multiple blood vessels (disseminated intravascular coagulation, DIC) and 18 cases of CVST. A causal link with the vaccine is not proven, but is possible and deserves further analysis."

Not proven. Key words. Is possible? Lies. Just like with autism. Not proven and not possible.

So should any doctors who point out that there may be a risk associated with the vaccine get cancelled?

Well of course. They should lose their licenses and probably be sent to prison.

And so what about whole countries that have stopped using the vaccine?

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/sweden-is-latest-country-to-stop-using-astrazeneca-vaccine-1.5348872

"Sweden on Tuesday became the latest European country to pause use of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine amid reports of dangerous blood clots in some recipients...

...Germany, France, Italy and Spain were among countries that suspended use of the vaccine on Monday."

Yes, well of course their dangerous anti-vax lies are going to end up prolonging the pandemic and getting millions of people sick and killed unnecessarily. Every member of those governments who participated in this anti-vax blood-clot problem hoax should be brought up on charges, convicted by a jury of their peers, and sent to prison for a long, long time.

And if someone does die shortly after getting the vaccine? Well just a coincidence of course. The vaccine makers need to be provided immunity from liability because there is no proof they are responsible; there never can be, and there never will be. And since the greater good would suffer if there ever was proof, there never should be.

[cherrypoptart]

I'm not anti-vax though. I'll be getting mine when it's my turn and I get my flu vaccine every year now. But it there is nothing wrong with letting people know about the risks.

For instance, flying on a plane is safe. However, sometimes for one reason or another they do crash and everyone onboard dies what could very well be a terrifying death. It shouldn't be considered wrong to inform people of the risk, however low it may be, before they fly. The risks of the vaccines, if any, are less than that of flying and the rewards to everyone are much greater, but that doesn't mean there aren't any risks at all or that people shouldn't be allowed to talk about them.

[TheDrake]

All doctors are usually clear about risk, they just don't emphasize it or advise against it. If a doctor says "there is a miniscule chance you might die, we just don't know, but the odds are very clear you should do this".

Now, that's not what LR posted about. He posted about outright falsehoods. Vaccines do not cause autism. There is no peer reviewed research that confirms that. Therefore, it is a dangerous lie.

And you know what? Even if 7 out of 20 million really did get clots, it's still better than 20 million getting corona virus, per capita.