Author Topic: Who funds the candidates?  (Read 3473 times)

wmLambert

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Re: Who funds the candidates?
« Reply #50 on: November 13, 2022, 12:58:00 PM »
...I don't think I was making a personal attack.  I was just pointing out a grammatical error, in the hopes of granting enlightenment, as requested.  Considering the value of this enlightenment, how it will make your future arguments even better because they will no longer be grammatically incorrect, I will accept your thanks.  You're welcome.  I personally thought that pointing out the grammatical error was very constructive criticism.  But at this point it's possible that you are not amenable to any criticism.  I will leave you to it.

Firstly, thank you, Seriati, for providing the name. It is almost impossible to find using search engines. Of the limited info I did get before the original articles got taken down (proving the protection provided by all the Leftists in IT) I saw how incorrect Wayward Son's post was. The Dems' ultra wealthy dwarf anything from the Right. This election saw millions being poured into even small Dem advertising coffers. As further proof - look at the sheer number of Soros-DAs who are currently in power after buying their positions.

I must have received thousands of frantic GOP requests for donations because they were so over spent by their opponents that they were forced to stop advertising, leaving disinformative ads unchallenged.

The secret behind Trump's success in the job, is that he did what he thought was correct, without flinching from the media onslaught. That, by itself, was enough to ensure a certain loyalty from those who saw through the lies. When the lies were slowly debunked over the years of attack, those who watched it happen became more appreciative of his backbone.

It is hard to support what is right, when complicit apologists lake those in this forum, refuse to admit what they know is true. They know the Biden Crime Family sold out to China, Russian oligarchs, and other foreign deep pockets who paid for their services. The problem is the fix of it. How does one evade being canceled by activists living in their mother's basement? They also know McConnell is also beholden to these foreign moneybags. Just look at his wife's fleet of ships funded and built by China. However; they will not hold McConnell's feet to the fire - even though he is in the opposition - just because his liability might splash on their own.

Those in this forum also ignore the weaponizing of the DOJ and the MSM. They know, as well as you or I, that suppressing the negatives on their own party (like Hunter's laptop, and The Biden's business partner providing verified proof of their crimes) stopped the info getting out to the voters before elections. They also know the attacks on their opponents which took millions of dollars and literally years to disprove, provided the ammunition they trumped up to throw the elections.

Thank you for you expertise. I hope it doesn't splash on you.

msquared

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Re: Who funds the candidates?
« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2022, 01:08:00 PM »
Maybe the GOP fundraising was because Trump got all of the money and did not spend it for the GOP?

wmLambert

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Re: Who funds the candidates?
« Reply #52 on: November 13, 2022, 01:20:05 PM »
Maybe the GOP fundraising was because Trump got all of the money and did not spend it for the GOP?

Still without shame. Say something more. You know Trump has lost money - why can't you say something about Biden's payoffs? Or even his lies and elder abuse?

msquared

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Re: Who funds the candidates?
« Reply #53 on: November 13, 2022, 01:22:26 PM »
Trump lost money?  In fundraising? His PAC raised over $100 Million dollars and spent almost none of it on candidates.

Wayward Son

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Re: Who funds the candidates?
« Reply #54 on: November 13, 2022, 01:28:42 PM »
Nearly every single thing Seriati said above is probably false.

Then it should be trivial for you to do so.  Please enlighten us.

The problem, Lloyd, is that it is difficult to prove that everything he said is false.

But the reason he said "probably false" is because it is also hard to prove that it is true.

To wit (for a few):

wmLambert, The name of the group you're looking for is, the first letter of each of the following words. Apples Randomly Against Basic Eggs Largely Labelled As Apple Deniers Victorious In Sequence Or Rotating Systems.  The have a bad reputation for suppressing their name.

They're a clearing house for dark money on the left that takes giant donations and filters them down to a large network of other left dark money groups for deployment.  They're how it's possible for newly formed issue groups to pop into an area with a $20 million war chest.

Here's a link on Arabella Advisors.

Yes, they provide a private clearing house for dark money for leftist's causes.

The article also mentions that they took in "total revenues exceeding $1.67 billion and total expenditures of $1.26 billion, and paid out $896 million in grants largely to other left-leaning and politically active nonprofits."  How does $896 million compare to Right-wing PACs, and the total from all Right-wing PACs?  (Too lazy to look it up right now.) 

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As far as the specifics in this thread:

Of course Republicans are against disclosure of donors, leftists harass and threaten anyone whose name they can find.  They get them fired, they ruin their businesses, they destroy their lives.  All of which is fundamentally the opposite of free and fair elections.

True enough, but how does it compare to those the Right-wing targets?  I recall a case where a company President threatened to fire every employee with a Obama bumper sticker on his car a while back.  That is similar, is it not?

Besides, is the solution to such a problem to make dark money easier?  Or would that only exasperate the problems with dark money (such as the rich having undue influence over elections)?

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It makes no sense that we have strict caps on individual contributions to elections that a billionaire can get around with trivial ease.  This isn't because  of Citizens United.  No campaign reform laws passed by politicians ever do anything but stack the deck.
 

If mobsters get around murder laws "with trivial ease," is that an argument to make murder legal? ;)

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Despite their protests and pretending to be the good team, the Democrats structural advantages in the dark money space are insurmountable.

The numbers I've seen dispute this.  (Didn't I publish them in this thread already, or was it another one...?)

That's all I got time for now, but I hope that demonstrates that Serati's statements are not as black and white, true or false, as you'd like them to be.

Tom

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Re: Who funds the candidates?
« Reply #55 on: November 13, 2022, 01:47:02 PM »
Lloyd, would you really like me to go point-by-point through Seriati's post to explain to a hostile and quite likely impermeable audience of one every single thing he got wrong or intentionally distorted? If you genuinely think you'll find it of benefit, I'm willing to write all that up for you -- but, again, only if you think you'd find it helpful or informative