Author Topic: California, the Neo-Confederacy  (Read 215 times)

Crunch

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California, the Neo-Confederacy
« on: March 16, 2018, 11:34:26 AM »
Democrats always seem to be agitating for the destruction of the United States:

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Never mind that the Federal Government of the United States has, as its duty to defend the nation, sole constitutional authority over borders and immigration; forget the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution establishing federal law as "the supreme law of the land"; aspiring “sanctuary state” California’s assumption of immunity to federal statutes recalls the 19th-Century Confederacy.

In three deliberate unconstitutional actions enacted to defy federal legal authority, California’s state legislature has made it a criminal act for citizens to assist federal agents in apprehending illegal aliens, for California law enforcement officers to notify federal agents of criminal illegal alien detainees’ release from custody, and California ordered state inspections -- regulation -- of federal immigration detention facilities.

Just as seditious slave-holding states attempted to invalidate federal government policies they didn’t like, and, in the 20th Century, the South ignored federal desegregation legislation, California has all but declared itself a New Confederacy.

Laying it out:
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The governor and attorney general of the great state of California have declared that federal policies involving Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents will not be adhered to.

I find it extremely ironic that uber-liberal California has taken such a states-rights stand. John C. Calhoun has risen from the dead as his constitutional theory of nullification enters into modern dialogue. According to the South Carolina congressman, secretary of war, and (briefly) vice president, states had the right to nullify any federal act seen as unconstitutional.

May we now say that California agrees politically with the secessionist states of the South?

Rounding out the new Confederacy, California is putting secession on the ballot again.

I wonder, how long do we wait before we do to California what was done to prior secessionists?

TheDeamon

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Re: California, the Neo-Confederacy
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2018, 12:42:05 PM »
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I wonder, how long do we wait before we do to California what was done to prior secessionists?

In this case. So long as they allow individual/groups of counties to in turn secede from California so they can remain in the Union. I don't really see a down side to it from a conservative perspective.

It removes numerous "safe" democratic legislative districts from the house, allows for numerous house seats to be reassigned allowing the 435 seat limit to remain while providing slightly better representation.

It also effectively destroys the ability of a Democrat to win the White House in the foreseeable future.

It also turns the broken nation-state of Neo-California into more of a joke. Because most of that farm country isn't likely to go with the urban centers.

Edit: More likely  than not, they'd become much like Singapore. You'd have "San Francisco Bay + Sacramento + Silicon Valley" (Which actually is a fair bit of land) And "Greater Los Angelos"

San Diego county is a coin toss. They'd probably end up supporting secession only to back out once given the option. DOD is a major factor for them. (As is Agriculture)
« Last Edit: March 16, 2018, 12:47:40 PM by TheDeamon »

LetterRip

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Re: California, the Neo-Confederacy
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2018, 12:48:38 PM »
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In three deliberate unconstitutional actions enacted to defy federal legal authority,

I know this comes as a surprise but "I don't like it" - doesn't make something unconstitutional.  There is no onus on employees of states to provide information and assistance to the Federal Government.

If you want actual competent legal analysis see,

https://scholarship.law.tamu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1300&context=facscholar
« Last Edit: March 16, 2018, 12:53:12 PM by LetterRip »


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Re: California, the Neo-Confederacy
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2018, 01:01:00 PM »
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California’s state legislature has made it a criminal act for citizens to assist federal agents in apprehending illegal aliens

This is the important part (if it's not spin).  Opting to not order your LEO's to cooperate with federal agents, I see as problematic but not a HUGE deal.  After all, Congress COULD opt to sort out immigration entirely making this a non issue.  If it is indeed a "criminal act" to assist federal agents, things have gone too far.

Crunch

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Re: California, the Neo-Confederacy
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2018, 08:54:22 AM »
Not everyone in California is going along with the “progressive” plan to defy federal immigration  enforcement.

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One Southern California town is taking a stand against a state law that limits the cooperation between local police and federal immigration agents and encourages sanctuary cities to exist.

The City of Los Alamitos will vote on an ordinance that would exempt it from the sanctuary city law that council members say conflicts with federal law.

Members say that the state law “may be in direct conflict with federal laws and the Constitution,” not to mention going against the oath they took in taking office, The Orange County Register reports.

A city passing ordinances to defy state laws that were enacted to defy federal laws.

NobleHunter

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Re: California, the Neo-Confederacy
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2018, 09:54:31 AM »

A city passing ordinances to defy state laws that were enacted to defy federal laws.

That sound absurdly American.