Author Topic: Something to think of during the "V Day.slut pride" campus festivities  (Read 2471 times)

Pete at Home

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Since Social Justice Warriors have colonized and appropriated the Christian holiday of Valentine's Day into "V Day," and the blather about "slut shaming" continues to obfuscate the real wrongs on college campuses, it might be useful to remember that the primary use of the word "Slut" has, historically and today, most often had little to do with promiscuity, and has more to do with reinforcing socioeconomic status.

As usual, my sources are left-leaning.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/05/28/slut_shaming_and_class_a_study_on_how_college_women_decide_who_s_trashy.html

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they stigmatized women not on the number of their sexual partners, but on their partners’ own social status. To them, “good girls only flirted with affluent men who had high status on campus. This disadvantaged less-affluent women, who were often drawn to men sharing their class background," Armstrong and Hamilton write. "These men were not in fraternities or necessarily even in college.”

I discovered a similar trend among my crib defense clients who were prostitutes.  A "skank" was a prostitute who charged a few dollars less than the speaker.
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Wayward Son

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Re: Something to think of during the "V Day.slut pride" campus festivities
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2016, 12:24:50 PM »
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Since Social Justice Warriors have colonized and appropriated the Christian holiday of Valentine's Day into "V Day"...

You make is sound like its something odd or terrible to "colonize and appropriate" a Christian holiday.

Appropriating holidays is a long-standing tradition.  Christmas used to be solemn holiday of reflection of what we did wrong over the year, and of the poor begging at the doors of the rich.  Now its some happy day of gift-giving and celebration, because it was "colonized and appropriated" by some namby-pambys who don't appreciate the seriousness of life and eternity.

And do you think the Feast of Saint Valentine was always about love and chocolates and Hallmark cards?  Your ancestors would be horrified at what it's become!  Changing the name to "V Day" is the least of the sacrilege...

In fact Christmas and Easter themselves are appropriated holidays, colonized by the Christians.  Originally they were solstice and fertility festivals, but Christians early on used them as propaganda to convert the heathens, changing their significance to days supposedly to celebrate the birth of Jesus and his resurrection.  The last people who should criticize that holidays were "appropriated" are Christians!  ::)

People are going to celebrate holidays the way they want to, whether they were originally Christian, pagan, or something made up by a lady who thought mothers should get more recognition than they do.  And there's nothing you can do about it.  So get used to it.  You just sound silly getting outraged over something that's been going on for millennium. :P

Pete at Home

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Re: Something to think of during the "V Day.slut pride" campus festivities
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2016, 01:15:22 PM »
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Since Social Justice Warriors have colonized and appropriated the Christian holiday of Valentine's Day into "V Day"...

You make is sound like its something odd or terrible to "colonize and appropriate" a Christian holiday.

Why does that sound terrible to you?

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Appropriating holidays is a long-standing tradition.  Christmas used to be solemn holiday of reflection of what we did wrong over the year, and of the poor begging at the doors of the rich.  Now its some happy day of gift-giving and celebration, because it was "colonized and appropriated" by some namby-pambys who don't appreciate the seriousness of life and eternity.

I don't disagree with that.  And I think it's a good thing to make note of it.

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And do you think the Feast of Saint Valentine was always about love and chocolates and Hallmark cards?  Your ancestors would be horrified at what it's become!  Changing the name to "V Day" is the least of the sacrilege...

Who said anything about "sacrilege"?  My point is that the Vaginists are no less predatory and parasitic than the corporations that colonized and appropriated Christmas and Valentine's day.

Do you even know the story of Saint Valentine?  He was executed for performing marriages for Roman Legionaries.  Legionaries weren't allowed to be married.  It was part of their terror mystique.  They weren't supposed to copulate with any woman that wasn't either crying in fear or receiving payment.  So he did more to end rape culture than this mob of privileged twits who don't know the difference between a vagina and a vulva, and think the hole is the sum of their feminine parts.    It's a celebration of anatomical and historical ignorance.

Yes, there are places and times in history where Christians behaved with similar ignorance.  So what?  That was then, this is now.

Pyrtolin

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Re: Something to think of during the "V Day.slut pride" campus festivities
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2016, 04:40:34 PM »
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it might be useful to remember that the primary use of the word "Slut" has, historically and today, most often had little to do with promiscuity, and has more to do with reinforcing socioeconomic status.
To the degree that it's still a term used to attack and denigrate women based on their sexuality and sexual behavior, that's not really a meaningful distinction. It does illuminate additional ways in which our culture demeans women, and even encourages their active participation in sexism, for sure.

It's unclear, though, what your point is here other than finding a way to cast bizarre aspersions others on completely made up pretenses.

Pete at Home

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Re: Something to think of during the "V Day.slut pride" campus festivities
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2016, 06:45:45 PM »
Based on past discussions, I must assume this is "unclear" to you because you did not read or "only skimmed" the linked article.  When you are hellbent to not understand something, it's kicking against the pricks to try.