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Pete at Home

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Meanwhile, the French
« on: December 16, 2019, 03:53:59 PM »
France, England, and the USA faced similar situations where right-wing demagogues, seemed poised to win top executive elections.  Marine LePen, Boris Johnson, and Donald Trump.

In the USA and the UK, the left responded by doubling down their rhetoric against the demagogues' supporters, calling them fools, hicks, and fascists.  Trump and Johnson won, since although few actually liked these goons, many supported them as a protest vote against a political establishment (let's call it the marriage of state espionage services, university elites, and most of the national media).  The UK and USA fronted candidates that they *knew* were hated by at least half their country.

France on the other hand, decided to hear the people's voices and to actually compromise on substance; the French left swallowed their pride and supported Macron as a compromise candidate to beat Ms. Le Pen.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/06/world/europe/france-macron-immigration.html
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PARIS — President Emmanuel Macron of France tried to seize control of the issue of immigration on Wednesday, as his government announced steps to make the country less attractive to migrants. The combined moves were a bid by Mr. Macron to wrest the issue from his main political challengers, the far-right National Rally of Marine Le Pen, which for years has skillfully used immigration in its political ascent.

With critical municipal elections just months away, Mr. Macron has shifted right and begun talking tough on immigration, especially on the perceived abuses of France’s generous social welfare system, hoping to keep Ms. Le Pen’s party, formerly known as the National Front, at bay.

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Among Mr. Macron’s new get-tough measures is a provision that asylum seekers would have to wait three months before qualifying for non-urgent health care.

Pretty mild stuff by US standards.  But that's the thing about folks following a Populist -- often they are so easily satisfied. 
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His government has accused some asylum seekers of engaging in what it describes as “medical tourism” by seeking treatment for serious medical conditions in French hospitals.
... Last year, nearly 320,000 people without legal status benefited from a government health care program reserved for them — a situation that has long angered France’s right.


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In addition, officials said that informal migrant camps in and around Paris would be cleared by the end of the year, as the government confronts a growing and visible problem in many French cities.

OK, that's more serious.  But if you want to defeat your opponent "at any cost" you should be willing to compromise with those you deplore to avoid the abominable.  And it's understandable that voters don't like high crime and tent cities:

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In Paris and other cities, groups of migrants, often numbering in the hundreds, have set up tent cities or are squatting in unused buildings. Nearly 3,000 are estimated to be living on the streets in northern Paris and an adjoining suburb.

Macron also seems willing to engage in established US hypocrisies where we fight against immigrants who take low paying jobs but welcome in those who take the country's high paying jobs:
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But the government also announced that, starting next year, it would for the first time establish a system of annual quotas to grant visas to skilled immigrants looking to enter France.

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Re: Meanwhile, the French
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2019, 04:27:29 PM »
"It is France’s working classes that live with the difficulties of immigration, [Macron] said, and “have thus migrated to the far right.”

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Re: Meanwhile, the French
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2019, 04:56:56 PM »
True dat.