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Ephrem Moseley

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Do human mutants exist?
« on: January 19, 2022, 11:43:41 PM »
If so, how can we tell?

I'm past the issue of "hurt feelings" obviously

so please go ahead and try to hurt my feelings

sauce for the goose...

alai

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Re: Do human mutants exist?
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2022, 11:50:45 PM »
Is this a genetics question?  We're all mutants.  Or the descendants of mutants.  Red hair?  Mutie!  Able to digest lactose as an adult?  Mutation!  Not a chimp?  Whole slew of 'em.

If it's an MCU query or something else, you'll have to give us more hints.

Ephrem Moseley

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Re: Do human mutants exist?
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2022, 12:03:13 AM »
Some mutations involve the reproductive system.

Like, for some of us (like me) reproduction is impossible. Also, for those of us "born in the wrong body".

Those are mutations.

Do all mutations need to be accepted as "normal"?

I think that there's a social contract at play here. Some mutations hurt the humanity organism it seems to me. Other mutations (X-Men) are beneficial.

So, how can we tell? And why does no one address the fact that semantically "transgender butch lesbian" is identical to "heterosexual male"?

alai

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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2022, 12:15:08 AM »
Also, for those of us "born in the wrong body".
Oh, there we are.

Next time you start another random-sounding topic, I'll lead with "how many steps to get back to defaming trans people, any why?", rather than waiting around for the even more random tack back to that.

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Re: Do human mutants exist?
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2022, 01:36:23 AM »
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/325388

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Re: Do human mutants exist?
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2022, 11:42:50 AM »
Mermaid Syndrome is a rare congenital deformity in which the legs are fused together, giving them the appearance of a mermaid’s tail. This condition is found in approximately one out of every 100,000 live births. It is usually fatal within a day or two of birth because of complications associated with abnormal kidney and urinary bladder development and function.  The disorder was formerly thought to be an extreme case of caudal regression syndrome; however, it was reclassified to be considered a separate condition.

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Re: Do human mutants exist?
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2022, 02:11:39 PM »
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Do all mutations need to be accepted as "normal"?

That's always a question, isn't it?  Should something that happens without human interference be considered "normal?"

Of course, it depends on how you're using the word "normal."  If you mean average or not-unusual, obviously strange mutations are not "normal."

If you mean acceptable to society, well, that's kinda moot.  Because society doesn't get a vote on whether it happens or not.  Society can only decide how to respond to the mutation.

But mutations normally happen, albeit infrequently.  So why not accept the inevitable, things which people and societies have absolutely no control over, so long as they do no harm?  To do otherwise is stupid. :)

Ephrem Moseley

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Re: Do human mutants exist?
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2022, 09:54:11 PM »
So why not accept the inevitable, things which people and societies have absolutely no control over, so long as they do no harm?  To do otherwise is stupid. :)
Conversion therapy can be inflicted. That's how it was 70 years ago. No reason why society cannot regress to that. It's like that in many countries now. The USA isn't necessarily the best at everything. Perhaps we've gone too far with the TWAW concept?

As to the harm, consider predators gaming the system and pretending to be a "transgender butch lesbian".

(I coined that phrase BTW AFAIK)

(@FemmeLoves on Twitter is very interesting)

alai

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Re: Do human mutants exist?
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2022, 10:24:22 PM »
Conversion therapy can be inflicted. That's how it was 70 years ago.
Of course, then the fashionable torture-quackery was "curing" people from being gay.  Seemingly you want to "cure" them (largely) the opposite way!

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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2022, 03:15:59 PM »
Conversion therapy doesn't work.  In a vast majority of cases, it doesn't change behavior.  Usually it just messes up the person and makes them miserable.

So you're solution is to do harm to prevent others from doing no harm.  Have you considered the morality, if not the ethics, of advocating for a cure that is actually worse than the supposed "disease?"  ::)

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Re: Do human mutants exist?
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2022, 03:19:48 PM »
Of course, then the fashionable torture-quackery was "curing" people from being gay.  Seemingly you want to "cure" them (largely) the opposite way!
in my "little world" the transgender and the AMAB gays are mentally ill, that's all, and there's a caste system to inflict that

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Re: Do human mutants exist?
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2022, 03:51:58 PM »
in my "little world" the transgender and the AMAB gays are mentally ill, that's all, and there's a caste system to inflict that
Or "pretending", or both.  I mean, doesn't matter which, they're both bad, so QED, or at least, "good enough for authoritarian talking points on the internet".