You're not American, so you've probably never "properly experienced" a 4th of July celebration. An attack on the 4th of July is an attack on the Declaration of Independence itself, not an attack on Whites, or an attack on the United States itself, or an attack on the people who wrote the document. (And in several cases, their own comments on the subject of Slavery at or near the time -- they weren't happy about Slavery either, even then. Which was way ahead of their time, yes they fell short of where we, and they, would have liked, but they did the best they could.)
Any "Black Community" that feels the 4th "doesn't mean the same thing to them" are quite frankly idiots and don't know enough about history, or the Declaration of Independence and its drafting. The United States may have the dubious distinction of being one of the last western nations to end the practice of Slavery within its borders, but the United States is also only second to the United Kingdom in its role in helping end the commercial international slave trade, and the resulting consequence of making the practice too expensive for many nations to sustain.
Wow, just wow. You're not as openly one-sided as wmLambert and Crunch are, but this comment is the sort of thing I would expect them to say. I am an American, and I resent your attitude that others who have suffered the insults and crimes committed by our government and society over the past 400 years should somehow have the same burnished pride that you have. I am totally disappointed.
Hello, Mormon here. I have ancestors who experienced the mob activities in both Ohio and Missouri, which meant they also had the subsequent experience of also being chased out of Nauvoo, Illinois, and being placed under Military Rule under Lincoln, and the numerous other anti-Mormon acts that were pursued. I am within a handful of removes from Mormon Missionaries who had plenty of harrowing stories about doing missionary work in the Deep South as a Mormon prior to the 1960's and the CRA.
If that's not enough, I also have ancestors who immigrated into the United States between 1867 and 1875
as Catholics from Eastern Europe. So I get another shot of discrimination I could point to.
The
United States is a different thing in a lot of respects from its founding document the
Declaration of Independence. You can take issue with US History all you want, we certainly have
plenty of negative marks against us. But on the 4th of July, the centerpiece is the
Declaration of Independence, not the United States.
And I'll stand by the previous statement. If you have a problem with "All men are created equal"(Or the more modern gender neutral form of it), then I have a problem with you, and you have questionable business in the USA.
If you have problem with "that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." Then the same applies to you as before.
If you cannot grasp and agree with "That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed" then we are at fundamental odds with one another.
"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." Is a bigger one to unpack, but again, if you take issue with the idea as presented, then we have a problem.
This part here is conservative mantra 101:
"Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established
should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
Oddly:
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." Seems to be the assertion of activist groups right now. But the very document which was one of
the first documents to elucidate such ideas as they're alleging to "honor" is the very same document they're attacking? That does not compute.
Of course, many, even among their own number, would dispute their having been placed under "absolute Despotism" under the system as it currently exists. Although can certainly be counter claimed that many so called "Social Justice Warriors" are in fact seeking to become despots themselves, their way or the highway. In which case the DoI stands as a stark witness against them, which makes it no small wonder they'd be trying to discredit the document. And again, another reason to take strong issue with the people conducting such assaults on said document.
